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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 03:13 AM Original message |
HILLARY BLEW IT when she tried to make the case the top 6% earners are 'Middle Class'.... |
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silverojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 03:21 AM Response to Original message |
1. K&R |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 03:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Through deception she was appealing DIRECTLY to that 6% who are NOT THE MIDDLE CLASS... |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 04:08 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. We call them "the haves, and the have-MORES"; she calls them her BASE. nm |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 04:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Hmmmm.... now where have I heard that before??? LOL (See Bushisms) |
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AzDar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 12:04 AM Response to Reply #9 |
46. I think I just threw up in my mouth a little. |
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Indi Guy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 03:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Self delete.. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 03:24 AM Response to Original message |
2. America needs that information |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 03:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. This was exactly the same approach Repubs used to try and kill the Estate Tax... |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
60. holy cripes, those numbers are astounding. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 03:50 AM Response to Original message |
5. They are -- in NYC, LA, San Francisco, Silicon Valley |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 04:14 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. You make an excellent point about a handful of special situations, but nationally Obama was right... |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 09:50 AM Response to Reply #11 |
24. Blackhatjack, as a fellow Edwards supporter, I think you're wrong |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
39. the cap applies to individual income, not household. |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #39 |
58. yes, I am aware of that, as my post indicates. |
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FLDCVADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 12:09 AM Response to Reply #24 |
49. I live in Fairfax County... |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 03:07 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. welcome to DU, FLDCVADem, neighbor! |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 08:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
31. I think we're all in love with the idea that everyone in the US |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
30. All true. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 10:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
44. I agree. All income should be subject to the Social Security |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
42. These politicians are smart enough to know that by now we need a regionalization |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 10:57 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. The landlord gets what tax break there is. |
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Indi Guy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 03:55 AM Response to Original message |
7. Hillary also blew it when she took PAC $$$ from Ruppert Murdock & the like... |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 04:04 AM Response to Original message |
8. Be fair- she also says DC Lobbyists are regular hardworking folks with families to feed. |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 04:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. You are wrong my friend. She is NOT clueless... she very well knows exactly what she is doing... |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 04:22 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Not "wrong"; I just didn't think it was necessary to drop a "sarcasm" smiley into that one. |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 04:26 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I was just extending your argument... but a sarcasm smiley is always welcome! |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 04:48 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. It's a personal hangup- As an artist, I have a STRONG dislike of the "sarcasm" smiley. |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 04:56 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I like your idea. It makes more sense than the current icon. |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 05:00 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I tend to prefer the tag |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 07:53 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Like this? |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Yeah, now that actually kinda says "sarcasm" to me! |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 09:40 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. now look at it |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #37 |
62. Sarcastic and animated! Nice job. nm |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. I like that better. |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. now look at it |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 10:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Perfect! |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 09:40 PM Response to Reply #21 |
36. ok, so I went and found an editor n/t |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 06:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
28. As a writer, I couldn't agree more. If you can't make your point without putting a nametag |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 09:45 AM Response to Reply #28 |
56. except on discussion boards like this |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 07:37 AM Response to Reply #8 |
20. But cake is loaded with fats, corn syrup, everything that's said to be bad for us! |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 08:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
22. eat cake--Hillary Antoinnette? |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 07:20 AM Response to Original message |
18. Actually, I think that 6% are the only real people in Imperial Amerikas...to Hillary |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
19. May any candidate use that piece. |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
23. Seems like that view of things came straight from the Republican playbook 101. Sad |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. The decision to protect the top 6% taxpayers from a tax increase did come from Repubs |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. DLC's playbook IS the Republican playbook |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Sad indeed, that she chooses to spout such dishonest Repub crapaganda. Sad, but not unusual. |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
33. He should keep up the heat on that issue. |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
34. If Edwards had made that mistake Wolf, would have probably jumped for Joy |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Like I've heard around here |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
41. Hillary flapped her "avenging angel of the middle class" wings so loudly |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
45. Couple that with the shot of Hillary drinking champagne at the DNC in '04 to show up in an ad... |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
47. how many times are you going to post this? |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
48. I am in that six percent and I would consider myself middle class. |
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FLDCVADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 12:13 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Same here... n/t |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 12:23 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Economic class isn't about how much you earn, but how you earn it. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
51. Where did the 6% stat come from? |
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Kaylee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
53. 6% IS middle class in the DC area.... |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 02:05 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. So why is minimum wage only $6.60 in DC? |
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Madam Mossfern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 02:16 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. That's just it. |
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Postman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 09:53 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. So Clinton can say anything regarding economic class and be correct? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. What's the difference between what you make and what the working poor |
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