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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 11:20 AM
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Kucinich: American media is biased against him and its campaign.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_alone_071117_kucinich_charges_tha.htm

November 17, 2007 at 15:18:05

KUCINICH CHARGES THAT AMERICAN MEDIA OWNED BY MILITARY CONTRACTORS ARE BIASED AND SUPPORTS HIS CLAIM

http://www.opednews.com

KUCINICH CHARGES THAT AMERICAN MEDIA OWNED BY MILITARY CONTRACTORS ARE BIASED AND SUPPORTS HIS CLAIM By Kevin A. Stoda, Kuwait

Congressman Dennis Kucinich (Ohio, Democratic Party Candidate for President) argued fairly successfully on the Voice of America (VOA) program , Press Conference USA of VOA News Now, this past weekend (Nov. 17, 2007) that the American media is biased against him and its campaign.

This, he claims, is why he is not running at least 3rd or 4th in Democrat election polls already.

When called on the claim by a commentator, Kucinich pointed out quickly that he was the only serious presidential candidate who had not been invited recently to NBC’s Meet the Press.

Earlier Kucinich had noted that this great media bias against his campaign was reflected by the obvious fact that a major defense contractor, who (of course) profits from war, owns a major news network, NBC.

Dennis Kucinich is the only major presidential candidate who was in Congress or Senate in 2003 and voted against the war in Iraq and all the financing for it.

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All of DK's debate responses:
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/28776
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 11:21 AM
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1. well yes, that's a fact nt
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pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:21 PM
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No doubt about it. Sometime I think anybody who calls a spade a spade
has this problem. But it could be his name or his personal appearance as well. It can't be his message, which has been reasoned and consistent.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 11:42 AM
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2. There are millions of people who want to hear what Kucinich has to say, and I think the way
he's been treated is shameful. The MSM is not only determining what we get to hear but is now deciding
who we get to hear it from (and, obviously, who we don't).

In some cases (e.g. Russert and Blitzer as moderators), the media has become the story.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:03 PM
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7. Ain't that the freakin' truth!
"..the media has become the story" And, we've been gearing up for this for 7 years because they're incapable of learning shit.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 11:45 AM
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3. media was clearly bias to kerry too, yet people put blame 100% on his
shoulders. single most effect on his campaign, yet those that oppose kerry totally ignored it and the effects of it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:04 PM
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8. Nah,
"IT'S THE MEDIA, STUPID! For those who don't know.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:25 PM
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20. ya. bush got X's more time than kerry and not a positive thing was said about kerry
lots of positive about bush
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:31 PM
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21. Zingo and YET there's still people..
even on this thread who don't get it..go freakin' figure.
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John Kerry VonErich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 11:45 AM
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4. What's really freaky?!?
Is that the only time I see him on the TV news media, at least for me, is Fox News my roommate watches.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 11:58 AM
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5. Yes, it's the big bad media...
...that is to blame for Kucinich's poor showing. No, it couldn't possibly have anything to do with the charisma-free zone that is his personality. Or his lack of on-the-ground organization. Or the fact that he has little to show for his time in Congress, save for grandstanding maneuvers. No, it's the media. :eyes:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:05 PM
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9. Yeah, it's the fucking media
and someone who doesn't know that needs to get The Clue.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:08 PM
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11. Kucinich's support % within the party is barely expressible as an integer.
Edited on Sun Nov-18-07 12:09 PM by yibbehobba
Media or no media, he hasn't connected with voters. That is why his poll numbers are crap.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:13 PM
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12. No,
his poll numbers are a direct reflection of the media bias. If more people heard him, if they didn't start out thinking that he isn't a serious candidate because of the way the media portrays him, his poll numbers would be higher.

You can't point to poll numbers as a valid measure of support if not all candidates, and their messages, are presented equally.

All poll numbers do, in this system, is reinforce the corruption.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:17 PM
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13. His poll numbers are a direct reflection of his uselessness as a candidate.
He can blame the media, dubya, aliens, the illuminati, or whatever else he wants to blame for his poor showing, but the fact remains that he has not connected with voters.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:21 PM
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15. If you don't know about
our American fucking mediawhores after 7 years of this shite then no amount of discussing it with you would get through to that brain of yours.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:24 PM
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18. How do you explain, then...
...that the two leading candidates for our nomination are a woman (and a Clinton, no less) and a black man? Has the media been kind to them?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:36 PM
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25. yib, you just have to know
the history of our fascist media to know their MO and SOP..they were "kind" to Kerry before the General and then WHAM..they were fucking mean to Gore but nice to the puppetmonkeyboy from Texas.

They're owned by corporatewhorefascists..fascists do NOT like Democracy..fascists like Fascism. karl rove gave his orders in 2000 and they still freakin' stand. We have work to do.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:55 PM
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28. That's a false statement.
He clearly connects to the voters that get a chance to hear him clearly and to learn about his positions.

He doesn't connect to the rest because they get their information from the very people who are working to marginalize him.

Given equal air time, and equal treatment by the media, I have no doubt that he'd connect to plenty of voters.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:10 PM
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27. You need to get The Clue.
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rjones2818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:23 PM
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16. Charisma free???
Listen to the cheers when he gives speeches or at debates. Pre-packaged glitz isn't the only type of charisma!

Go Dennis! :woohoo:
http://dennis4president.com
Choose Peace!
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:25 PM
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19. He says things that people like to hear.
No bother that he's done fuck-all about any of the things he talks about. He talks a good line, I'll give him that.
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rjones2818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:32 PM
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22. Bwhahahahahahahahah.
Edited on Sun Nov-18-07 12:33 PM by rjones2818
hehehehehehehe.

hohohhohohoh.

hehheh.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 09:05 PM
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29. did any one else in Congress bring impeachment to the floor?
no, I didn't think so. :shrug:
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:34 PM
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23. During his time in congress he's gotton more of his bills voted out of committe than Pelosi has.
If you believe the the corporate media is bias free, well you are entitled to your opinion.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:00 PM
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6. Rec'd dudes!
The American mediawhores are fascist sucking scum that hate Democrats who spout Impeachment of the lord chimpczar, Bring the Troops HOme, and Alternative Energy, to name a few of the most important subjects that aren't an option for their "crazed, only take orders from karlfreakrove implanted chips".

Didn't know they were owned by fuckin' military contractors, though..except nbcge.

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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:06 PM
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10. The sad fact of life is
The US Government is just an extention of corporate board rooms. Even small businesses get stomped underfoot. Kucinich, Gravel and Ron Paul are not "pwned". No unbought candidate is ever going to get a limelight.

Even Big Dog, for all his charisma an goodness, still chose to edify the investor class at the expense of the worker class with NAFTA, by supporting sanctions and military acts to keep Iraqi oil off the market and other things. If a Pres. candidate refuses to play the game he/she/it is roasted on a spit. The man got us a few bones we would never have gotten under an R. I think he really, REALLY tried, but IMHO we still lost more than we gained under Clinton. We would have lost even more under any R on the planet.

I do think we have a few candidates who will play in the name of trying to perform some good for the country within the framework of dancing with the devil even if they hate it. VS the candidates on the R sides who just like to dance with the devil and look forward to raping workers as much as humanly possible.
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rjones2818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:21 PM
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14. Off to the Greatest Page with you!
Why would GE and it's professional shills like Timmeh want to put an anti-war pro-peace candidate on the TV. After all, they own the airways...no, wait a sec.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:23 PM
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17. Well he's right n/t
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:35 PM
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24. C'est vrai.....
They've blatantly mocked and diminished him, despite the fact that he sounds more like the masses than any of the rest of the candidates.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:46 PM
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26. K&R
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