Kucinich will look Presidential if he's the President

Just because someone who is not yet president may not fit all of the preconceived ideas of what their appearance should be does not mean that they won't fit the mold given the chance. I'd rather see Kucinich as President -- he walks the walk and talks the talk and the congruity of that is enough to "appear Presidential" to me. Frankly, I find it worrisome if someone looks Presidential but falls short in the ideas department...

on edit: I remember when Dan Rather interviewed Bill Clinton immediately after he won the election - Bill was kind of shy and quiet at that interview; but he quickly grew into his Presidential shoes

Hillary would break all of the rules for looking presidential if she were voted in. Period.

Go Dennis! :woohoo:
http://dennis4president.com
Choose Peace!

Just read his Dept of Peace proposal on his site. Is there a stupider or more naive proposal ever by a candidate for presidency???

and i think it is a great idea

and also heard Dennis talk about it. It is an excellent idea and one that I hope is used by the next Administration, no matter who is President.

about his Dept. of Peace proposal?

especially now.

Who wants peace?

War! War! War! War! War! War! War! War!

USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

:eyes:

Look at what American policy has done. Just look around.

It's not like he'd eliminate the DoD. But he WOULD entertain the notion of peace. Now how can that be a bad thing?

A Department of Peace" with tanks and machine guns (not to mention nuclear weapons) is just plain creepy.

I don't know why people don't see this. Do they think DK is going to unilaterally disarm America?

http://kucinich.house.gov/Issues/Issue/?IssueID=1564#senate

here's summary on that page...for the actual proposed legislation, click on "Kucinich Resolution" under "related files" at above link...

Summary of Department of Peace and Nonviolence Legislation

Legislation introduced by Congressman Dennis Kucinich to create a Department of Peace and Nonviolence includes the following:

Establish a cabinet-level department in the executive branch of the Federal Government dedicated to peacemaking and the study of conditions that are conducive to both domestic and international peace.

Headed by a Secretary of Peace and Nonviolence, appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate.

The mission of the Department shall: hold peace as an organizing principle; endeavor to promote justice and democratic principles to expand human rights; strengthen nonmilitary means of peacemaking; promote the development of human potential; work to create peace, prevent violence, divert from armed conflict and develop new structures in nonviolent dispute resolution; and take a proactive, strategic approach in the development of policies that promote national and international conflict prevention, nonviolent intervention, mediation, peaceful resolution of conflict and structured mediation of conflict.

The Department will create and establish a Peace Academy, modeled after the military service academies, which will provide a 4 year concentration in peace education. Graduates will be required to serve 5 years in public service in programs dedicated to domestic or international nonviolent conflict resolution.

The principal officers of the Department, in addition to the Secretary of Peace and Nonviolence will include; the Under Secretary of Peace and Nonviolence; the Assistant Secretary for Peace Education and Training; the Assistant Secretary for Domestic Peace Activities, the Assistant Secretary for International Peace Activities; the Assistant Secretary for Technology for Peace; the Assistant Secretary for Arms Control and Disarmament; the Assistant Secretary for Peaceful Coexistence and Nonviolent Conflict Resolution; the Assistant Secretary for Human and Economic Rights; and a General Counsel.

The first day of each year, January 1st will be designated as Peace Day in the United States and all citizens should be encouraged to observe and celebrate the blessings of peace and endeavor to create peace in the coming year

Invading sovereign nations, occupying them and building permanent bases. That sure sounds "defensive".

Frankly, to think DK would be some kind of 1984 nut is nonsense. If he was, he would either be in the White House right now or leading polls, receiving huge support by the complicit MSM.

and I am sure many within the large group of people who aren't planning on voting for him in the primaries have legitimate reasons they aren't supporting him as well.

Now people want to vote for image (aka George Bush the Cowboy Christian, Bill Clinton the Man from Hope etc) over substance. We may never have a president like Dennis.

Better fat than fat-headed, if you're aiming to be President. (By the way -- great post header, TheUniverse!)

Remember that Americans once elected a tall skinny guy with a mole on his face -- a guy in a wheelchair -- and a guy who was less than 5'4". (Lincoln, FDR, and Madison, for those keeping track.)

If Dennis Kucinich is 5'7" as some reports I've heard indicate, that's still as tall as, or taller, than a half-dozen past presidents.

Lincoln was considered ugly; he was not a patrician, and was from the "outlandish West". Yet he grew in office.

Kucinich is already acting the way I would want my President to act-going to the Middle East and talking to leaders there, seeing for himself what is happening and keeping a much more open mind on things that any repuke ever could.

"If I had two faces, do you think I would go with this one?" Or words to that effect. Wow. That one still works, after more than a century and a half.

Lincoln was a master of self-deprecating humor.

If we could bring Abe back to compete against Dubya ... one-downing each other, as it were ... it would be no contest at all.

Did anyone really think W looked presi-densul?

Well,if thats what one looks like, I'm glad Dennis is different!!!

and what I see is a phony dressing up in costumes and pretending with deadly consequences -- nothin' presidential to see there...

the same propaganda when it comes time to elect someone who will lead our nation in a different direction?

"Just because someone who is not yet president may not fit all of the preconceived ideas of what their appearance should be does not mean that they won't fit the mold given the chance...

"Frankly, I find it worrisome if someone looks Presidential but falls short in the ideas department..."

He'll be presidential, but he'll still look like the kid on the left:





:D

than the current resident.

Stature is more than a measurement of height, and DK's got what it takes.

Considering our current president can barely speak his native language, has a history of alcoholism and drug abuse, and went AWOL from his Air National Guard unit, Dennis Kucinich's warts are minor in comparison.

Bush has proven that any dumbass can be made president. But only a few can actually do the job correctly.

I feel bad that I've fallen into this bullshit "most electable" trap. I hate that I have to try to figure out the "game", after it's been set up by the Corporate Media. Dennis protesting against the School of the Americas, says it all. He would be the Lyndon Johnson of Presidents ( minus all the warmongering ) ... in other words, the Greatest Dem President of our lifetime. Damn. The main reason I've been pushing Edwards is because I think he has the best chance to dethrone the Hillary (Queen Corporate) media juggernaut. That may well still be true, but my heart is DEFINITELTY with Kucinich . Ugh ... what ever happened to "may the best man win" ???

Whomever is elected will have to unite a bitterly divided country...have top management skills to be able to bring people together in order to get our troops out safely, restore international relations, attempt to resurect the economy, pass a backlog of important legislation currently sitting and that will be proposed...and to cope with a corporate media that all but dooms any elected official to failure.

The next President will have the toughest job of any ever. The messes left by this regime are deep and will continue to be doing damage even after 1-20-09. Rhetoric and ideology isn't what's needed...that's what got us into this mess...it requires someone who can be strong when needed, patient when required and able to motivate and manipulate to get anything done. If you think Kucinich is this person...your primary vote says it all. My jury is definitely out on his ability to be able to do that.

times now. It takes a lot more than rhetoric and ideology to avoid caving to corporate interests -- which is an important characteristic that distinguishes DK from the herd--

Honestly...what legislation has DK written or sheppard through any legislature? Where has he shown he can get people...especially those who he doesn't agree with or get along with personally...to get things done...end this ugly war, restore the economy? Words mean nothing...action is what I'm seeking here as that's what's required of the next President. There's a massive mess awaiting to clean up and we don't have the luxaury of putting someone in there who has to learn on the job.

Sorry...no talking points here, just a longtime observer. If you can show actions rather than words, otherwise look whose using talking points.

I think I read somewhere that Jefferson did not have a good speaking voice. Adams was not exactly a "President" from Central Casting.

It's so stupid. We're not casting a part for a movie. "The President" does not have a "look" any more than do "doctors" or "congressmen" or "sanitation engineers."

This culture needs to get some substance back into it.

And that's not a common quality to be found in politicians. I suppose everyone makes a few bad decisions in life and he was against abortion for a while, but overall he's spot on. He looks presidential to me, if leadership is the quality that we're looking for.

There is a lot of silly discussion about looking presidential. Sure, Kucinich lacks the "look" but that has never been his problem really. His problem is that he's running in a party that he's not interested and/or capable of leading. I love almost every position Dennis has and can live the rest, but I could never support him for President...well, I could if congress was full of Dennis supporters.

The reality is that he'd never look "presidential" when both houses of congress ignore and marginalize him. Heck, Jimmy Carter had some great ideas, but once he lost the ability to rally democrats in the house and senate, he was a total lame duck and it was sad. Carter had more of the establishment behind than Kucinich does.

Stick Dennis in George Clooney's body and you'd still have to do something about the whole maverick attitude. Because Presidents don't get to make the laws, only sign or veto them, they really need to be able to control at least their own party.