I am so sick of watching jobs vanish

Almost everyday you hear about hundreds to thousands of jobs either being outsourced or lay-off's or plants closing , good old US plants closing only to be opened up out of the US .

This is bushs great economy at work here , great ideas and plans bush .

What the hell are these people supposed to do now or next week or ever ?

Why don;t they just get it over with and screw up all the jobs slated to go away all at once , this way people at least know the fate and don't have to worry each and every damn day they will go to work and find out they have no job anylonger .

The stress alone is enough to kill people just wondering all the damn time .

Go ahead bush and cheney , go bomb the hell out of Iran and start the next swarm of death and destruction with all their named for purpose war machines like ships called destroyers and planes called bombers , surgical bombs , strike forces .

But don't worry about the deaths and the people of the US loosing jobs and all else just spend all the money and put all thought on death and destruction .

Man , I am so sick of this out of control mindset that appears so rampent and collective as if this is meant to be a way of life for anyone .

And those jobs aren't ever coming back.

The sheeple love their corporate overlords, though. Wouldn't want to admit that they've been deceived . . .

nobody sticks together anymore, that's why.....

and people WITH money have all the stick they need.

They are suppressing information.
People who have been foreclosed on are
being "allowed" to remain in their houses
(purely anecdotal info on my part).

We are being "leveled off".

The bankruptcy laws are a part of it too.

Remember those , where people who had the savings invested from a life of hard work and all got ripped off and lost everything and had to go back to work in their late life ?

This is like people now lossing their pensions or those risky 401K plans turning to dust .

At this rate bush will get the troops for his insane surge , they will be the only jobs left even if you are over 65 .

commercials proudly saying "Made In America" unbelieveable how things are spinning out of control. Everything my parents worked so hard for is gone, I am relieved that both of parents never had to see this.

I was sick after seeing that . All the claimed US clothes made in sweatshops of horror , I'll never forget the look on the faces of these young girls , looks of dispair drained of all hope .

I was hoping I would be able to sneak by at my age and still be able to work and make at least a fair wage after 40 long year of working hard but no , here we are in a place I never thought I would see and no one seems to care or think it will soon affect them .

Then I think about retirement and I have nothing saved now , what then , what will me and others like me do , I suppose leap off the golden gate bridge after a meal of cat food .

is a freezing of people's activities. I've noticed a severe drop in attendance, even at free lectures and events. It's like everyone is holed up, waiting for the worst to happen. And it's not just me--friends in other areas tell me that church attendance, even attendance at AA meetings, is way down. And people aren't spending their money, even if they still have jobs. Everyone seems to be jumpy and irritable.

but that they just can't afford any additional gas in their cars, aside from what's needed to get them to and from work. Even if the lectures and AA meetings are free, if they aren't close enough to walk to, it still takes gas (or bus or train fare) to get there.

Apart from the streets, where do they go?

And the big companies must be praying that the "worker pool in India is larger than that of the American population" (repeat as needed for China, Russia, any other company country) actually learns this stuff instead of continuing to make it worse... But with more articles coming out how offshoring is not as much the panacea as once thought with more people about to retire, jobs WILL return...

(greedy stockholders) outweigh the needs of the many (hardworking employees). Sucks

of insiders.

It's almost impossible to get in contact with anyone actually doing the hiring anymore.

It's almost all job sites on the internet with no calls allowed and even if you get a number you are most likely one of 75 callers and a long list of emailed resumes or jambed fax machines .

I have been looking for a year now and I have no idea what I will do in the next few months . I have gone to every site and tried every way to get an interview .

Most of the ones I get go fine but it always seems to feel like an age issue rather than lack of experience .

I was a Sprint lay off. In transition from one career field to another, it took 4 years to get something better than short-term temporary positions. I finally landed a position I LOVED (largely through L-U-C-K), the company was acquired shortly after I signed on, was there a year and they layed a bunch of us off a little over a month ago.

I've decided this time to focus on the hiring contractors rather than on the actual jobs. At least they're a little more inside than I am, though not necessrily inside the right clique in many places.

You've got to establish relationships with more than one hiring contractor, person to person, and visit them regularly to impress upon them what your qualities are and how thankful an employer is going to be if they get you hired.

If you don't mind my asking, how old are you?

Hang in there! Don't let it get you down. Stay connected to someone. Sooner or later a bunch of us are going to HAVE to start talking about a more "OH, THE HORROR!!!" Socialistic way to live in which we can cooperatively help one another, 'cause it looks like the corporate world doesn't have a use for us anymore.

:hi:

I have a masters degree and it feels real funny (ha, ha . . . NOT!) to be in a position in which I can't get the job without the experience and I can't get the experience without the job. :(

And age discrimination is Real hard to proove.

Oh yea, I forgot to mention that it helps to be willing to relocate. That's the other new thing I'm doing this time.

They said they can tell in three weeks if someone will be good at the job, if they're "a fit." I was in shock, to say the least. Now my life is turned upside-down. I'm also in my fifties, getting older each year of course, and concerned about finding even more age discrimination than I already have encountered. I have not been able to find a good, lasting job since I got laid off in 1999 from a place I'd worked for 16 years. That layoff was due to outsourcing, before the word fell into such popular usage.

I worked at the same job for 12 years and was finally a manager and was doing a good job with alot of responsibilty and pressure dealing with the public with issues on their car and trucks at the ford dealership I worked for and was fired one day for no reason , it was at will clause .

This came out of nowhere and this was oct 2004 and I still can't get it out of my head . After 11 months I got a job at another ford dealership writting service which I knew well and was bringing in alot of new customers and was laid off after 4 1/2 months right on valentines day 2006 and have tried many sorts of jobs but nothing was a real job with any security or regular hours and was always new and the first to be cut back .

Since this time all the anxiety and panic attackes came back from years ago and now I shake and tremble and can barely leave the house .

I got on SDI and went through alot doing this and have to go to vocational rehab this wed , I already went to their intro phase but now I feel like a lost cause with meds not doing much for me .

I don;t know how this will all turn out when I have lost hope for any future now .

It is now a bad thing to be over 50 with long lines of people for the same job .

I wake up everyday in a start and panic and don;t know how much more of this I can take , it is like an on going nightmare each day .

Manufacturing made this country strong, but unfortunately there are many who choose to throw this part of our economy under the bus. They think we can outsource everything and all survive in a "service based economy". They can't see beyond the short term profits to the long term effects. It's all about money for the stockholders, not about making our country stronger. Ever notice how a corporation's stock will often go up as soon as a big layoff or move out of the country is announced? It's sickening.

when I retire. What made me sick, it also showed my earnings over the years. I made more money 25 years ago working a non skilled labor job than what I make today as a skilled laborer. Wages continue to drop and nothing is being done about it!

And they were made in the US to boot . We are told things will even out , yeah right , what they really mean is we will all work for the new global wage of $1 per hour or they will kill us off first to thin out the work force .

Perhaps we will have lives in a containment center sifting sand .

raise the min wage without giving another huge tax cut to the rich.

550 at Boston Scientific

24 at Red Cross

65 at Arctic Cat

2000 at Ford

250 to 300 (Diabled workers) at Minnesota Diversified Industries

100 at Travel Tags

37 at Deluxe

27 at MN Fish and Wildlife

Feel free to add.

let me get a calculator!

I recall the movie Roger and Me and that was in the 80's .

The entire mid west is loosing big time with all the manufacturing jobs and almost all else .

It's nice to be reminded in books that so many write about the hardships while they are making money writing books soon no one will be able to by them or even have a place to stay out of the rain to read them .

need more pizza delivery jobs. :sarcasm:

Ohio is completely depressing with so many out of jobs.

What really infuriates me is that Walmart actively forces American companies to transfer production to China to get cheap labor and lower costs. There will come a time when two lines intersect: cheap goods and people who don't have enough income to buy them.

for the American market.

I can buy the same crap without Wal-mart as the middle-man here in the UAE for 1/10th of the price.

Their prices are nothing short of extortion!

They are taking their pound of flesh out of what is left of the economy...

I googled p his stuff from the 90s, a smpling:

Fast Track makes more secrecy and less public input

The 1991 “fast track” legislation gave Pres. Bush the authority to negotiate NAFTA in complete secrecy and without the participation of either Congress or the US public. The term “fast track” refers to a process whereby Congress turns over to the President its authority to regulate foreign commerce-a power granted to Congress in the Constitution.

NAFTA is good for investors & bad for jobs

NAFTA is really less about trade than it is about investment. Its principal goal is to protect US companies and investors operating in Mexico. The text of the agreement is contained in two volumes covering more than 1,100 pages. The text is mind-numbingly dull. Large portions of it are written in the type of obscure legal terms found on the back of an insurance policy. Buried in the fine print are provisions that will give away American jobs and radically reduce the sovereignty of the US.

Maquiladoras just steal jobs; it’s not really “trade”

To encourage US companies to operate in Mexico, the US government subsidizes companies in Mexico that ship products to the US by removing import fees. These factories are known as “maquiladoras.”

US multinationals created almost as many new manufacturing jobs in Mexico under the Maquiladora Program between 1986 and 1990 as they created in the US-92,000 jobs versus 97,000 jobs. Most of the goods produced in the maquiladoras are shipped into the US market. Consequently, most of the so-called trade between the US and Mexico is not trade as trade is commonly understood. Rather, it is primarily US companies shipping their own machinery, components, and raw materials across the border into their Mexican factories and then shipping their finished or semi-finished goods back over the border into the US.

Altogether, more than half of the US “exports” to Mexico never entered Mexico’s domestic market- less than $8 billion of the $41 billion of US exports in 1992.

All from Source: Save Your Job, Save Our Country, by Ross Perot

http://www.issues2000.org/Celeb/Ross_Perot_Free_Trade.htm


Check out the link. I agree with his free trade policies. By no means are they perfect, as anything rarely is, but it's so much better. If that makes me an isolationist, so be it. His alternative couldn't possibly be worse than the current situation. H1Bs, outsourcing everywhere - many US companies aren't concerned with employing Americans any longer. Look how we've almost completely lost pensions- something Unions fought hard battles over. Instead, ship your own money and your company match into whatever crappy high-fee funds they offer. Do your research as best you can, but it still doesn't beat a pension. Ask any union person or a unionized state warker with a guaranteed pension if they'd rather have a 401(k). They'll laugh!

But start outsourcing more of those high tech jobs from Silicon valley and people start getting upset! Wonder how many factory workers and construction workers have lost their jobs in comparison? But who gives a damn about the working class right?! How long before this is a 3rd world country of rich or poor? :grr:

And work for universal single-payer health care.