Anybody else watching KO think that Olbermann may be supporting Clinton?

I got to thinking this back a couple weeks ago after Clinton's bad debate performance where he defended her and made it seem like the rest of us were making something out of nothing. And then today, he misrepresented Obama, saying he said Put up or shut up to Hillary, when instead he said show me what you have or say its not true. That is a big difference between those two. He got on Obama's case today for the dust up over the weekend and imo wasnt exactly fair in his representation. Maybe Im reaching here. Anyway, people who think KO is without fault, Clinton supporters, and all those who disagree, flame away.

Put up or shut up or

show me what you have or say its not true

But I'll submit, not seeing the piece, that there isn't any substantive difference between "put up or shut up" and "Show me what you have or say it's not true." The first is shorthand for the latter.

If he showed a clip of Obama speaking, he's off the hook.

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its an age thing ;)

I don't know, actually; I don't watch Keith.

But I do know this: Dennis Kucinich is my favorite candidate, but the Big Media are going to support Hillary until it becomes inconvenient.

He said "admit" it's not true -- as if he knew that HRC was complicit in some way.

She has nothing to "admit." And she has denied knowing anything about what Novak -- through a second hand source -- has reported.

And he said that the clinton campaign should have just come out right away and discredited Novak... considering its Novak and given his reputation that clinton knows all too well, the campaign should have. Instead it appears that it took the campaign several tries before stating that they knew nothing about the alleged whisper campaign.

the Rethug.

HRC hadn't done anything, and she had nothing to admit to.

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Its the same thing.

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There is a difference. Put up or shut up is a lot like saying if your going to talk the talk, you better walk the walk, and if you dont walk the walk, shut up.

whether he's talking about candidates or something else. I support Obama, but more than that, I just want one of the Democrats elected. Olbermann may be the same. My support of Obama doesn't keep me from thinking or saying he's made a misstep, if I think he has. My support of him doesn't keep me from thinking or saying that another candidate, for example, had a great debate night.

I don't think Olbermann is without fault, am not a Clinton supporter, except as one of the Dem candidates (and, I admit, I have a soft spot for her as a woman among the leading candidates), but I guess I do disagree -- but I hope I'm not flaming.

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I'll watch the rerun and pay closer attention.

However, I've really become a fan of KO since he started busting bush balls and would be hard-pressed to find any fault with him. I hope he isn't using his rather powerful platform to push one Dem over another this early on, but I've certainly been duped before by the MSM. I don't think you're asking an unreasonable question and thanks for pointing out your thoughts :-) I'll watch more closely from here on out !

I don't see him leaning one way or the other. It is hard not to talk about her because she "is" the frontrunner so that makes her news by default.

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Hekate

I support Hillary too. I do not care who he supports as long as he is not against who I support. The problem with Obama and Edwards is they want to tear Hillary down to get support instead of building themselves up to earn support.

I will vote for the Democrat who gets the nomination. I want that to be Hillary because I think she is the one I think is most capable of dealing with the republican bull crap and it is time for a woman to run this country.

I am black so you may ask why don't I support Obama. I do want a black man to be president but not if he needs on the job training. I do not care what anyone says, you need to know how Washington work in order to be effective as President. The best way to know how it work is to live and work there. Obama has only been there two years and has spent a year of that time away runnning for President. President Clinton and Hillary would have done better that first year if they already had some Washington experience. You can not teach experience. You got to live it.

The media has made it so if he doesnt, he does not have a prayer. He tried being civil in debates, showing what he has to offer, but he was panned everywhere, and she built this huge lead. Now that he is going after her, his numbers have improved and the media isnt calling him done anymore.

So I don't think he's for anyone.

Obama should have only addressed the rumor by denouncing anything Novakula has to say. Novakula is only trying to sling some shit. That's what he does. He throws shit to see what will stick. If Obama didn't acknowledge the shit, Novakula would have to eat the shit.

Novakula outed a CIA agent working on weapon proliferations. He has been a shit slinger for way to long. No one should pay any attention to him what-so-ever, period.

He wasn't making shit up; she *was* a CIA officer. Novak is a hyper-partisan, thoroughly unethical douchebag, but he does have legitimate Washington connections. I have no doubt that someone inside the Beltway told him Hillary's campaign has dirt on Obama. Exactly who gave him that tidbit of gossip -- and how credible that person might be -- is a different story...

What is obvious is that each candidate's partisans choose to find a spin that just isn't there. "I won't watch Olbermann any more because he's biased toward Hillary!" or "I hate KO now because he's too negative toward Hillary!" or the like. We tend to see dimly through the lens of our own biases. I think KO is one of the few reasonable, objective newsguys left.

Olbermann was literally fawning over Bill Clinton when he interviewed him, so I'm guessing he's probably in Hillary's camp as well.

and I haven't noticed that he favors one Dem candidate over another.

Just because he interviewed Bill Clinton with regards to the Chris Wallace debacle and shared his outrage over it doesn't mean that KO was fawning over Bill Clinton, nor does his show of support for Bill Clinton mean that he supports Hillary.

in the post above mine. Sorry, hnmnf, I meant to respond to that one.