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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:07 PM
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'Holy Cow,' Exclaims MSNBC Host, Rove Thinks Bush Could Sink GOP
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Karl_Rove_to_Republican_candidates_Distance_1120.html

'Holy cow,' exclaims MSNBC host, Rove thinks Bush could sink GOP
Mike Aivaz and Jason Rhyne
Published: Tuesday November 20, 2007

Former chief Bush political strategist Karl Rove is telling GOP Oval Office seekers in 2008 to keep a safe distance from the man he helped to twice elect, according to MSNBC host Dan Abrams' interpretation of a recent opinion column penned by Rove.

"It sounds to me like Karl Rove is giving the Republican candidates advice that says 'get away from my guy,'" Abrams said of Rove's Saturday column in Newsweek, in which the the former adviser warned that President Bush's lagging poll numbers would do no favors for GOP presidential hopefuls in 2008. "Am I the only one who's reading Karl Rove and saying 'holy cow?'" the host asked later.

In the column, entitled "How to Beat Hillary (Next) November," Rove laid out a loose general election strategy to combat frontrunning Democratic presidential contender Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY).

"So show them who you are in a way that gives the American people hope, optimism and insight," he wrote to would-be Republican nominees. "That's the best antidote to the low approval rates of the Republican president Those numbers will not help the GOP candidate, just as the even lower approval ratings of the Congress will not help the Democratic standard-bearer."

Abrams said that the advice was a telling indicator about the state of the Republican Party.

"When you've got Karl Rove advising...the Republican candidates to effectively distance themselves from President Bush," remarked the host, "I think that tells you how much trouble President Bush, and possibly the Republicans, are in."

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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:10 PM
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1. Goddamned fucking asshole scum
This man helped Bush get elected twice, knowing full well what kind of person he was working for. Now he wants to tell people to distance themselves from Bush? Go to hell, Rove.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:47 PM
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11. The people can only be duped for so long.
Now that the voters are on to them, Rove tells them to keep their distance. Typical. :eyes:

Fuck that. Dems must not let any distance come between Bush and the Repubics. May Bush be an anvil around the feet of the entire Repubic party.

Each and every time any of their names are mentioned in public, they should be referred to as a Bush Repubic.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:11 PM
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2. For once in his life, he's right.
I think that George W. Bush will be pretty difficult to find anywhere on the '08 campaign trail.

Except, of course, in political ads being run by Democrats. :)
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:14 PM
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3. Is this how he truly feels, or a trick?
I don't trust anything that comes out of this jerk's mouth. Isn't he working on The Kid's library? Some loyalty.

I can't put my finger on it, but I think this smells.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:31 PM
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5. I agree with you. It is almost impossible to believe that Rove would throw his idol under the train
There are two possiblilites that occur to me right away.
1.He is truly an evil pragmatist and will go whatever way gets him the most power...
2. He is trying to trick everyone in some evil way that we just cannot figure out yet...

a third possibility-both
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:54 PM
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12. It was/is a long term plan.
I have heard them (Republicans) say many times that Reagan's high approval ratings at the end of his term were a waste. Presidents should use their last term to push unpopular agenda items (popular among only their base) and always leave with low-approval ratings if they push agressively enough. The new candidate distances themselves from the President, and maybe America gets fooled yet agian..but at the very least, the base well taken care of.

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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:56 PM
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15. It's pure Rovian, nothing new and still effective...it's
simply that Rove is the Machiavelli for the Prince. Most people have always associated the Prince as Bush...wrong: Never was Bush. Bush is merely the instrument/puppet for the religious zealots and Neo-CONS. Roves function is to salvage the base until 2012. No matter who wins in '08 they will face the almost insurmoutable problem of Iraq and the wars decimation of the US economy.

If by some chance the American public once again(with the aid of the Democratic suicide gene) were to hold the Whitehouse, then the Neo-Cons would create continuual enemies and wars(never mind the economic impacts), the religious right, hand in hand with the Neo-CONS would continue the assault on the Constitution. I believe they think that it is irrelevent what happens economically because under the 'new' system they would be able to handle the economy by brute force.

If the Democrats do not drink the Kool-Aid and wind up in control, they will be unable in four years to bring about the necessary stability of the economy acting by Constitutional means and therfor they will all be turned out of office and the Repugnants returned.

So merely maintaining a core of Repugnants for the intervening four years is a desireable goal.

Remember they spent nearly 30 years patiently setting up the dominoes to get where they are today, four years is just a coffee break to these people.

Rove is insane, not stupid!
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:30 PM
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4. No honor among thieves.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:37 PM
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6. Such an operator. After all, there won't be any more work
coming from Dubya. He's got to find a new host to latch onto.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:38 PM
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7. Volunteering for the Mars mission can't get them far enough away
Sorry, pubs. You bought him lock, stock, and oil barrel. The Chimp is going to be on your backs for a long, long time.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:39 PM
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8. There's something nepharious in everything this POS says......
.... He's obviously up to something.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:40 PM
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9. I know how Repubs can "get away" from Bush
Edited on Tue Nov-20-07 01:42 PM by rocknation
VOTE FOR HIS IMPEACHMENT!!!

:headbang:
rocknation
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:41 PM
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10. I hope bushit is feeling betrayed
by one of the assholes who created him. Did the fucktards have a falling out? Or is this just rove trying to salvage the goperverts for 2008?
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:55 PM
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13. Disinformation. Bullshit. Trick. Call it what you will.
If Rove says something against the Bush family publicly, you must expect that it is with their approval. BushCo MADE Rove. He's a worthless sack of dog shit without their blessing. This is just another dirty trick coming from the master of dirty tricks. Anyone who believes a word this fuckhead has to say deserves what they get.

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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:55 PM
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14. The mark of the beast is on every republican legislator. That brown nose
you see on every republican senator and congressperson is the tattoo proof that they've done nothing but kiss Bu*h's ass for years, and have been complicit with Bu*h in the deliberate destruction of our nation and the murder and maiming of hundreds of thousands of innocent people.

And now it is time to pay the piper. You know what you did, and now there's nowhere to hide.

Here is a song just for all you rotten, stinking, corrupt, degenerate republicans:

Artist: Eagles
Song: Somebody

You feel bad, but not bad enough
You know you had it coming 'cause you played so rough
Back over your shoulder got an icy chill
Man, you thought you'd get away with it
Now you know you never will

Somebody, somebody
You got a feelin' somebody's following you

No one knows 'bout the times you had
You've been so evil; you know, you've been so bad
There's a devil to pay for what you put them through
And you got a feeling somebody's following you

Somebody, somebody
You got a feelin' somebody's following you
Somebody, somebody
You got a feelin' somebody's following you

There's a jack-o-lantern moon in the midnight sky
Somebody gonna live, somebody gonna die
But down in the graveyard on that old tombstone
There's a big black crow and it's callin' you home

Somebody, somebody
You got a feelin' somebody's following you
Somebody, somebody
You got a feelin' somebody's following you



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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 02:27 PM
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16. Ya Think? LOL They Have NOT Mentioned Bush's Name in Months, Some Years...
And Democrats need to adopt 'Bush Republicans' every time they refer to Republicans and the Repub Party.
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