Did you know Hugo Chavez won Time's online person of the year award?

I was looking around for polls to see if the anti-Chavez propaganda was working. I guess it aint.

That's probably why they made it the stupid ass year of "you."

People don't seem to following their cues from our elected leaders who in turn are following the orders of the money people.

If they aren't careful, American citizens might force them to come up with a foreign policy based on respecting democracy and who takes care of their own people, not on who makes a handful of the richest families richer.




Story:

http://www.karmalised.com/archives/001779.html

if the f*ckin' CIA doesn't assassinate him.

VIVA CHAVEZ!!! VIVA La Revolución Bolivariana!!! VIVA SOCIALISMO!!!

Not yuck towards Chavez. Yuck to adulation of flawed political figures. And they're all flawed. Chavez is no exception.

a mixed bag, but more good than bad

whose idea of taking care of the poor is flushing their toilet so the water trickles down on the barrio.

is not necessarily directed at Chavez the President of Venezuela but rather toward the Bolivarian Socialist Revolution he's trying to help his people achieve.

All people are flawed. "Leader's" flaws tend to be magnified. But as "leaders" go, Hugo is less flawed than most...

The work that's going on in Cuba (with sustainable organic agriculture, etc) and Venezuela are the best hopes for the future of the world right now, a future without corporate capitalist ruin.

I guess one must thank bush's Iraq war for that. Since ronny ray-gun f*cked up the opportunity Carter gave us to get off of our oil addiction, bush trashed any reputation the U.S. may have had, and bush has thankfully exhausted the American war machine, Hugo has some space to build in and money to do the building.

Thanks, george.

:shrug:

Que Viva!

It's the last five to ten minutes of THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED. Actually, any American president would respond far differently than he did, which is part of why he is seen as such a threat--he aint stupid.

90 second preview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OVMwZwtG6s">

The full documentary:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5832390545689805144

Next time BushCo tries to oust an elected leader, it needs to make sure no film makers are in the house!

:)

their HQ in Qatar, but Tony Blair had to explain to him that it's bad manners to bomb an ALLIES country.

You're right.

started shooting at THEM. And it's on film. It is surreal watching it, because you are on the side of the reporters, and you expect to be on the side of our troops too, then BAM!

there was a doc that showed how the "embeds" where "trained" to encounter chemical weapons in Iraq.

They were purposefully scared out of their wits. They had to rely for EVERYTHING on the military. That means, they were completely infantilized.

And you have to know that their managers back here knew exactly how that would go down and how much their product would be worth.

with Chavez that Bush is "the devil."

In fact, I think a lot of us can still smell the sulfur Bush and Darth are blowing over our oppressed and blighted land.

It's interesting what happened with that Chavez remark to the UN. At first it seemed a miscalculation--and he apparently meant it as a joke (a lot of smiles, laughs and clapping from the UN audience--i.e., it was nothing like Krushchev's "we will bury you!" statement; it was more like, 'hey, we all know what we're dealing with here.'). Anyway, at first, it had a negative consequence. It seemed to affect Venezuela's bid to sit on the Security Council. It was just too "undiplomatic" for the UN. And, of course, the rightwing and the corporate news monopolies here went nuts. However, when leftist Rafael Correa--who was neck in neck with a rightwing billionaire banana king in a race for president in Ecuador--was asked what he thought of Chavez's remark, and replied, with a laugh, that he thought it was an insult to the devil, he shot ahead in the polls and won the election with 60% of the vote. And Chavez himself went on to win reelection by 63% of the vote! And Brazil's president, Lula da Silva, made a point of visiting Chavez two weeks before the election, for a big ceremonial opening of the Orinoco bridge. He could have put it off. He didn't. It was an implied endorsement. It seems the remark went over very well, indeed, in South America. And, if the truth were known, it went over very well here, too--where 74% of the people now oppose Bush's war, and where the American people were gathering steam to give Bush the biggest rebuke of his presidency in the 2006 elections, even with his buds at Diebold and ES&S counting all the votes with "trade secret," proprietary programmng code. (They can't just 'disappear' all our votes. If enough of us vote, we can outvote the machines!)

But, of course, Time magazine wouldn't want it to be known that Americans largely agree with Chavez! It's so typical--but also hilarious--that they would suppress this.

or humanitarian. I'm not saying that as any comment on Chavez and whether or not he's a good person, just saying, that's not the criteria used to decide this by the magazine and possibly by the internets surfers. After all, look who came in second.

It says plainly "for good or ill"; so ppl knew they were voting for someone in a potentially "bad" way.
I know it was just a poll; but it is interesting............

They never said whoever comes in first place in the poll gets the cover. It's "Time magazine's Person of the Year", therefore they get to pick.

This is much ado about nothing. There were threads about Person of the Year several weeks back alleging they purposely kept Chavez off the front page with the allegation that they overruled the voting, but if that were true, this would have to be a scientifically conducted poll, not an online poll, which is easily open to ballot stuffing.

If a scientifically conducted poll made Chavez Person of the Year and they put somebody else on the front cover, then you have a case.

If this poll would be completely irrelevant because it is "unscientific" then why was the poll held at all?

push some of their crap... what's being swallowed and what isn't.

are ignored by the dinosaur media. The lame cop-out was an in-joke.

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Yeah, that's why they made it 'you', cause of a meaningless online poll that had nothing to do with anything.

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Too funny!!!!

I wonder if he'll have a parade for himself?

I'm with ya. This concept is soooooooo silly LOL