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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 04:11 AM
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Christian Leaders Commit to Tackling Poverty | CCT-USA Statement on Poverty
Christian Leaders Commit to Tackling Poverty
By Adelle M. Banks

Christian leaders from the country's broadest-ever ecumenical group have issued a statement condemning the "scandal of widespread poverty" and calling for action by the public and private sectors to combat it.

"As leaders in Christian Churches Together, we believe that a renewed commitment to overcome poverty is central to the mission of the church and essential to our unity in Christ," they said in a Feb. 9 statement.

The statement was released at the conclusion of the formal launch of Christian Churches Together, which includes five "families" of Christian faith groups (Catholics, evangelicals and Pentecostals, Orthodox, mainline Protestants and racial/ethnic churches).

Some of the 36 founding members who gathered in Pasadena, Calif., for the Feb. 6-9 meeting noted the rarity of such a broad group of Christians working together. The poverty statement calls for working with other faith groups as well as individuals and families, and the public and private sector.

"We believe substantial success in reducing domestic poverty requires an overall framework that insists that overcoming poverty requires both more personal responsibility and broader societal responsibility, both better choices by individuals and better policies and investments by government, both renewing wholesome families and strengthening economic incentives," the statement reads.

The leaders cite four objectives to address domestic poverty:
strengthening families and communities; reducing child poverty; combating racism and ensuring full-time work provides a "realistic escape from poverty and access to good health care"; and strenthening the educational system, particularly public schools.

The denominational executives pledged to continue addressing the issue at their 2008 annual gathering in Washington.

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/211/story_21196_1.html


Statement on Poverty
Adopted by Christian Churches Together in the U.S.A.

As Christian leaders in the wealthiest society on earth, we are called by God to urge our churches and nation to strengthen and expand efforts to address the scandal of widespread poverty in the United States and around the world. The Gospel and our ethical principles place our service of the poor and vulnerable and our work for justice at the center of Christian life and witness.

Our common faith compels us. Christ our Lord teaches us that when we serve and stand with “the least of these,” we serve and stand with Him. Our Bible teaches us in hundreds of places that the God we worship has a special concern for the poor. God judges individuals and societies by how they respond to the needs of the poor. As leaders in Christian Churches Together, we believe that a renewed commitment to overcome poverty is central to the mission of the church and essential to our unity in Christ. Therefore in order to obey our God, respect the dignity of every person, and promote the common good of society, we must act. Our focus here is domestic poverty, but we reaffirm our commitment to overcome poverty all around the world.

Widespread and persistent poverty challenges us to action. The painful truth is that about thirty-seven million people in our country live below the poverty line. Tragically, 18 percent of all our children struggle in poverty. The sad reality is that millions in our nation work hard and still cannot escape poverty. We lament this ongoing poverty.

Our faith in Christ who is the truth compels us to confront the ignorance of and indifference to the scandal of widespread, persistent poverty in this rich nation. We must call this situation by its real names: moral failure, unacceptable injustice. Our faith in Christ drives us to call our churches and our society to a more urgent, united response.

We are grateful for the vast array of ways our churches are already helping millions of struggling people. We want to build on these efforts, learn from each other, and collaborate more closely. But we can, we must, do more.

We also recognize and encourage leaders in community, economic and public life who seek justice for poor people in our land. But we can, we must, do more. Our goal must be the elimination of poverty in this land.

Continued @ http://www.christianchurchestogether.org/poverty/




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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 04:17 AM
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1. And to think Catholic parishes have had our doors open for the last
231 years of this country's existence.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 04:21 AM
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2. Solving poverty?? But..but.. gay people havent been solved yet! nt
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 04:28 AM
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3. Wonderful. That's wonderful to read. Thanks for posting.
A powerful alliance of churches like that certainly has the potential to make a difference for many people living in poverty. It's nice to read positive news like this.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 12:04 PM
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6. You're welcome, bling bling.
:hi:

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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 11:33 AM
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4. It's About Time!
...I am glad my UCC conference is added to this list, but have some reservation. We have historically built our faith around doing for the "least of us" in our community and worked for social justice, against racism, and with poverty for more than 100 years.

One of our conundrums is that as a historically progressive church, any time we tried to join in with may of these more conservative churches, we are told we are "sinful" because we are open and affirming (we accept gays as equals), we are progressive in our social justice work (we stand up for minorities and the poor) and we are too soft (we accept everyone, Christian or non-Christian as children of God and accept their faith as equal to ours) and (gasp) we accepted women into the ministry as early as the late 1800's! The great Riverside church in NY is UCC and Reverend Forbes there embodies our faith by meeting with Muslims, Jews, and others around social justice issues and finding common ground in faith and works. We are often small churches because we do not preach fear (the end of the world is nigh!) or hate (you do not belong with us because you are GAY), we are people who do not throw money at things, but like to put our money where our mouth is and actually DO things to fight poverty like open food banks we staff, help with housing, and be a resource and a haven for people on the street. Nobody who seeks our help has to get down on their knees and become a Christian to get help,

Fear-preaching brings in a lot of money for churches and ministers find when they teach about the Agape kind of love, they will never become a mega-church. Mega-churches preach narrowly, more concerned about things like sexual conduct yet do not even recognize and have few problems with greed, indeed they often even promote it. This when rampant greed is one of the most damaging for human conditions that cause world-wide poverty and war ~ and the sheeple stampede to it, where Love, the Agape kind, is too hard to do for most of these sinple people, IMO.

So I am glad these churches are joining together to combat poverty, I just hope they also refuse to take "faith-based" funding from the government and actually work together by refusing to allow the Church and State to be intertwined. I hope they have respect for all the work that has already been done, but I wonder if this will be the case.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 12:14 PM
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9. Jim Wallis focuses on poverty; was arrested for civil disobedience on the steps of the Cannon Bldg..
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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 12:09 AM
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21. To Me, Jim Wallis Is An Inspiration
...he is different than many evangelists because he truly does embody a person trying to live their faith, all right. I do have respect for him.

Cat In Seattle
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 05:49 PM
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13. UCC has a *great* history.. you have much to be proud of.
Maybe some of your open-mindedness can "rub off" on these others, although they are certainly now going in the right direction.

BTW, I was in a Lutheran Church in Santa Fe which has a HUGE and specific message of inclusion in their front hall. One can't miss it, and one can't claim not to know their very inclusive stance!

It's really beautiful..wish I had thought to write down the words of it...

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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 11:37 AM
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5. GOOD.
Recommended. :thumbsup:
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 12:06 PM
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7. Hi, ulysses!
:hi: Thank you for the K&R!


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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 12:10 PM
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8. DU is in your debt
and in the debt of everyone who keeps poverty on the front burner. Thank *you*.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 04:50 PM
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10. Isn't she great?! Thanks for helping keep this "on the front burner", ulysses!
:hi: :hug:
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 04:54 PM
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11. whoa.... another heart mysteriously appeared!!
Thank you so much, whoever you are! :hug:

It sure takes the sting out of the nastygram I got! :(

I so much appreciate being remembered! :loveya:
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 05:32 PM
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12. Ironic that it's Christians, and especially ironic that so many are more conservative Christians,
rather than "liberals" who are waking up to poverty issues!!

How 'bout it, liberals, are you prepared to now lose poor people's votes because you're not speaking up and acting on poverty???

Don't you see this coming???
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 06:13 PM
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14. I think liberal Christians are more likely to be Red Letter Christians, while conservative...
Edited on Sat Feb-17-07 06:45 PM by Sapphire Blue
... Christians are more likely to focus on divisive 'hot button' issues, ie, Tony Campolo, a Red Letter Christian, and Jerry Falwell, a conservative Christian.

Meet the 'Red Letter Christians': http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=233221&mesg_id=236631


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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 06:56 PM
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15. Let's get this to the greatest page, folks! Pleeeeez....
Let us poor folk know you give a damn!

:hi:
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 07:32 PM
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16. So, why now??
They have millions and have been robbing people blind for decades. All of a sudden they have an interest in helping the poverty stricken...Bullshit. What I smell is a kult clan of idiots trying to save face from ALL those wonderful scandels over the years, I dont trust those people and I never will. When they pull their head out of jeebus's ass and tell their rethug moron senators to stop supporting *'s warmongering and rapeing of the constitution, then I might (maybe) forgive them for all the atrocities that have been done in their religions name.

Contributing to social issues in a major way is what they should have been doing for millinea. Instead, it was mansons, planes and diamond mining in Africa. Now they want to help defeat poverty?? Bullfuckingshit.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 07:48 PM
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17. They have been helping them for decades, this is nothing new (nt)
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 08:19 PM
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19. I have not seen any improvments...
...Hmm, yet Dobson and Roberts as well as the other ilk still manage to be quite well off. All by sucking the income out of people like a starved vampire.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 08:22 PM
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20. Dobson and Robertson are not members of the groups listed
and would never feel comfortable with denominations like the UCC, which have been progressive on social issues for literally centuries.

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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 07:50 PM
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18. Broadbrush much? You don't have a clue.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 04:46 AM
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22. "Personal Responsibility"!
"Personal Responsibility" is a poor phrase, I couldn't read past it.

An even more basic understanding of the problem with the phrase, when used to control others: 'insists on ... more "personal responsibility",' is that it is a variation of the infamous "No." It's an inferred negative: if you must need more, then clearly one doesn't have enough now. Therefore, the inference is also "bad" and guilt based.

Perhaps rewarding "personal responsibility" would be a more fruitful course than dictating what people must do.

"Pursuit of Happiness"
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 04:55 AM
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23. back to the middle ages
The retreat of the political economy rights of the masses leaves them only
in the charity economy, so they can huddle around the church and live in
mideival tithing parish socialism.

Gosh, if it hadn't been thought of, employed, and rejected by humanity 500
years ago as a gross failure in civil rights, we might even think it was new.

Its always good to hear people loving each other, and taking care; just
it simply should not be necessary, this charity due to the failed state,
a living wage and proper social welfare would make this faith-state redundant.
But instead, its a sort of privatization, another one, where government shirks
off to conservative social controllers who get the reigns of people who would
otherwise not be beholden or obliged to them.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 07:39 AM
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24. it's Sunday morning!
:kick:
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 06:57 PM
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25. Let's give this another boost for poor folk! About the only signal of hope we have...
Wish the Dems would follow suit...
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