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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 09:43 AM
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Hillary Clinton has been subject to regular surveillance by Bush's Executive Branch
An unspoken political vulnerability of Sen. Hillary Clinton is that she is the first presidential candidate to have both her and her spouse subject to regular, long-term surveillance by an Executive Branch under the control of an opposing political party.

Since they left the White House in 2001, Bill and Hillary Clinton -- as the former President and First Lady -- have been under the protection of the Secret Service, a branch of the Treasury Department. Records are maintained showing where they go and, to an extent, whom they meet.

Ordinarily, those records are kept as closely held secrets, but theoretically at least, President George W. Bush -- with his expansive view of his powers as "unitary executive" -- could gain access to them, either formally or informally.

His father did much the same when his subordinates scoured the passport files of then-Arkansas Gov. Clinton in 1992, looking for a "silver bullet" that would kill off the Democratic nominee's presidential hopes.

more . . . http://www.alternet.org/story/67037/
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 09:49 AM
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1. You don't think they did the same thing to John & Theresa Kerry?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 10:39 AM
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6. Maybe but not for as long as they have spied on Hillary
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 09:53 AM
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2. not the secret service but wiretapping etc etc etc....
they are a criminal cabal with the use of our security apparatus.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 09:58 AM
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3. But Kerry would have had SS protection while he was a candidate or no?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 10:25 AM
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4. Uh,Obama has agents of the US Treasury Department
(ie,the Secret Service) trailing him, too.

Anyone they meet with will generally come to them.

I thought Bill Clinton dumped his secret service detail and hired a private one, instead.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 10:31 AM
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5. We can see why that would probably be a good idea.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 10:41 AM
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7. Anybody that does not think this administration
used the wiretapping as an excuse to monitor ALL the democrats and groups who they thought were opposed to bush are crazy...That, and I really believe that was the main reason for domestic surveillance.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 11:28 AM
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10. BINGO! And, by routing the duplicated optical fiber outside US jurisdiction
we cannot even say that listening to everything was a crime! It is only a crime inside the US.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 11:09 AM
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8. they have spied on and harassed Hill ever since Bill was elected


she is probably the most watched woman in the world.

don't let the murderous bastards break you Hill!
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 11:23 AM
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9. When Hillary wins all 50 states in 2008 she'll be the spy on GW...
We'll be in control of who is detained and who is followed. The balance will have shifted in our favor, all the powers we complain about now will be our comfort soon.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 12:32 PM
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11. Imho, this is the biggest problem Clinton has and it shouldn't
be minimized.

The party will get behind her but BushCo may already be way out in front of her. :(
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