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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 06:40 AM
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So I'm watching Lieberman on CSPan now
Edited on Sat Feb-17-07 06:43 AM by malaise
and as he backs Bushco 100% and discusses the coming Constitutional crisis. I have only one question for him. Why is he so concerned about a Constitutional crisis between the Executive and the Legislature when he supported the Constitutional crisis re the Patriot Act, Wiretapping, Habeas Corpus, Military Commissions as well as violations of the Geneva Convention, war crimes etc.

Fugg off Joe - you are a self-serving backer of war criminals who have violated the Constitution with your help.

Sp.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 06:59 AM
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1. The "Ownership Society"
Karl paid for Joe's Campaign, so the GOP/PNAC owns Joe.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 07:05 AM
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2. 100% correct
but someone in the Democratic Party needs to state clearly that a Constitutional Crisis has existed for some time. What did Joe Liberman have to say in response to Gore's speech from January 2006. Did he miss that part of the Constitutional Crisis?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x153771
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 07:09 AM
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3. Joe even missed the Constitutional Crisis during Bush vs Gore...
Edited on Sat Feb-17-07 07:10 AM by Hubert Flottz
He was the first person on TV telling Gore to give up that fight. He didn't support the president then. At least not the REAL president.

Edit...I think I despise Joe more than I despise Bush and Cheney.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 07:33 AM
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5. Profound point
As an equal opportunity despiser, I hate all three.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 08:31 AM
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12. I think I do too. At least arbusto and the devil never claimed to be
anything other than what they are, corporate thugs. This asshole pretended to be a Democrat as long as it suited him, and I will bet serious money that the shithead will officially go re:puke: this year, just to screw us up on some important bill.
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chefgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 07:13 AM
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4. Too right
I was watching it too, and all I could think was, why doesn't he just get it over with and become a friggin Republican already? They already own him, lock, stock and barrel.

They paid for his campaign, and probably stole the election for him too, despite the clear will of Connecticut voters, so why not just go all the way?

He votes with them anyway, he's always denigrating Democrats..what the hell is he gaining by keeping the 'D' in front of his name??

I never liked Lieberman, and the day Al Gore announced him as his running mate I remember saying to my parents, "Well, Gore just lost the election".

He's been a thorn in my side ever since.

-chef-
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 07:36 AM
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6. He sickens me
but what is worse is that Dems don't expose his hypocrisy. Someone needs to address his selective interest in matters Constitutional Crisis. Maybe KO will deal with this.

Fugg Joe.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 08:31 AM
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11. I think the only reason Joe hasn't totally defected is that he's...
Edited on Sat Feb-17-07 09:17 AM by Hubert Flottz
blocking for Bush on the disaster in New Orleans. In the spot Joe's in now he can stop the investigation into the missing cash and the no bid contracts in the states Katrina tore up. I think the GOP knows that Katrina could deal as hard a blow to the GOP as Iraq is dealing. Joe is able to halt any real illumination( and LONG OVERDUE "Finger Pointing")of BushCo's total ineptitude on that front, from his spot as the chairman of his committee on Fatherland security. Joe as head of that committee is able to deflect any SERIOUS inquiry into the innerworkings of DHS, which IMO, could turn up tons of theft, graft, cronyism and mismanagement.

I think Joe Lieberman is about as honest as the company he keeps!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 08:41 AM
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13. So why did Reid give him that committee
Joe is a scum bag.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 09:20 AM
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17. I think Reid was afraid not to.
Trying to keep control of the rest of the committees by keeping Joe on the D side.

Lesser of two evils.
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chefgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 09:09 AM
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16. AHH....
Thanks, Hubert. You know, I have to admit, that thought never crossed my mind. Ya know, ya try to keep putting all the pieces together with this crew in D.C., but every now and then, a piece will slip past.

Thanks for laying it out that way, I do believe you hit the nail on the head. After all, what issue is second only to the War in Iraq, that could really cause the shit to hit the fan? Katrina.

It also explains, besides the obvious fact that he supports them in so many votes, why they would have so zealously supported his campaign.

Learn something new every day, just like Mom said.

:hi:

-chef-
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 09:53 AM
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18. That couldn't be it because if Joe defects, the seat is STILL his.
Edited on Sat Feb-17-07 09:54 AM by Clark2008
Afterall, if he defects, then the Senate becomes Republican-controlled.

Edited to add: I think the reason he doesn't change parties is that he's vying for a "Unity Party" ticket with McCain.

And, I'm sorry, DUers - that ticket would win. The media has people so brainwashed that they'd think that ticket was actually "unity" and not yet another selling out of our rights as a public to the corporations.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 07:48 AM
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7. I saw that. Funny I am not up-tight about Joe
Lots of people think it is a good plan for the USA to try and run the world. Does not seem to work very well but they hate to give up the thinking. The women that called that the Dem. had us lose the war in Vietnam, got to me. I wonder if she ever read about what the Fr. said when they left that country or that the 'North' was also fighting in that country. I swear she knows not one thing but the stuff Rush puts out. Even when you win the fight such as in Vietnam and Iraq it does not mean you win the pop. over to your side. To keep putting in our Civil War seems a little odd to me. The GOP seem to pick only what they want to make a case. Just as Bush did on going to war and I am willing to bet on this new General. Sure makes fighting a war interesting if you only go with what you like. In some ways it is like Hitler in his Bunker on the last days of WW2 and ordering an army that was no more. Maybe I also do the same and pick only what goes with my way of thinking. I try not to but it does not mean I make it. I think Joe sees a Middle East as a part of the world like the USA. Nice try but I hardly think we can jam it up their a-- as he wants to do.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 08:01 AM
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8. Constitutional crisis re consenting adult oral sex is OK with Joe - but not Bush Treason? n/t
n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 08:04 AM
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9. Yep
I swear he was part of the fix from day one.
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 08:17 AM
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10. I notice Joe chairs the Homeland Security Committee
Now THERE is something fueled by death and terror...
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 08:48 AM
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14. Is the Senate in session already?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 09:00 AM
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15. Don't know but this was recorded
yesterday
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