Rudy: Yes, I Voted For McGovern, But I Actually Preferred Nixon

kpete

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Rudy: Yes, I Voted For McGovern, But I Actually Preferred Nixon

Rudy: Yes, I Voted For McGovern, But I Actually Preferred Nixon
By Greg Sargent - November 23, 2007, 9:25AM

As he seeks to court GOP primary voters, one potential sticking point has been his opposition to the Vietnam War in the early 1970s and his vote for Dem George McGovern in 1972. But Rudy has now concocted a new explanation for that vote: He didn't mean it.

Or so he says in a new interview with The Weekly Standard:

"I had traditionally been a Democrat," Giuliani told me in a recent interview in Las Vegas. "It was almost like a reflex mode. I actually remember saying to myself, 'If I was a person really deciding who should be president right now, I'd probably vote for Nixon, because I think the country would be safer with Nixon.'"

Hmmm. Does this mean that Rudy didn't vote for the candidate who he himself thought would keep the country safer? Seems a bit odd. Foreign policy and national security issues were kind of front and center during that campaign.

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/11/rudy_yes_i_voted_for_mcgovern_but_i_actually_preferred_nixon.phpmore at:

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TahitiNut

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Sat Nov-24-07 09:06 AM
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1. Gee. He almost sounds like a DUer. ;-)

It's remarkable how people rationalize voting for OTHER than their own preferred candidate. :eyes:

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DemBones DemBones

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Sat Nov-24-07 09:17 AM
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2. I don't know, it seems to me that there's more

Edited on Sat Nov-24-07 09:17 AM by DemBones DemBones

rationalizing at DU about voting for corporatist candidates because s/he "can win," as if voting for the winner is more important than voting for the person who holds more of the positions you support.

Oh, wait, that's what you're saying, isn't it? Sorry, i'm just waking up here.

Voting for the winner is no consolation when the winner is really a loser, folks. Vote your conscience and forget about what your friends think.

How could anyone vote for Rudy when he can't even vote straight: "I wanted to vote for McGovern but I voted for Nixon."

:wtf:

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Catch22Dem

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Sat Nov-24-07 10:00 AM
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5. Sorry but it's not that simple

Edited on Sat Nov-24-07 10:01 AM by Catch22Dem

I'd rather vote for a loser dem who can win the general election then surround him/her self with other dems who would then be in position to do some good, and perhaps even make a SCOTUS nomination. If you strictly vote your heart/conscience you'll get the republican. Voting your heart is what the primaries are for, voting to win is what the general election is all about.

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spanone

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Sat Nov-24-07 09:19 AM
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3. maybe bernie kerik MADE him do it.

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no_hypocrisy

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Sat Nov-24-07 09:34 AM
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4. Rudy: Before McGovern, there was Bobby . . .

Edited on Sat Nov-24-07 09:40 AM by no_hypocrisy

Talk about inconsistency, if not hypocrisy. Giuliani was a "passionate supporter" of Robert F. Kennedy before he voted for McGovern.

Way back in the idealistic 1960's-before he became a lawyer, a prosecutor and then a politician-Rudolph Giuliani was a liberal journalist. As an undergraduate at Manhattan College he wrote regularly for Manhattan Quadrangle , the campus paper. Nobody who watches the Mayor will be surprised to learn that what most interested him about the newspaper business was the opportunity to share his political opinions. His early writing displays just a hint of the hectoring style that has since become so well developed and beloved.

The fledgling commentator wasn't wholly without talent or insight, but his collegiate literary efforts are of interest mostly because of a freshly relevant coincidence. The young Rudy had a lot to say about a certain controversial issue in the 1964 Senate race.

Mr. Giuliani was a passionate supporter of Robert F. Kennedy, the former Attorney General . . .

http://www.observer.com/node/41641

How Giuliani could state with a straight face that he secretly wanted to vote for Nixon with his known record of political support is the epitome of trying to bs the voters to believe he is a dyed-in-the-wool, old-fashioned, "moderate" republican they can trust.

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MiniMe

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Sat Nov-24-07 10:16 AM
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6. "I would have voted for Nixon if I had known that I would be running for President as a Republican"

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Orsino

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Sat Nov-24-07 10:39 AM
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7. The Rudy, my friend, is blowin' in the wind.

Flip. Flop.

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Time for change

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Sat Nov-24-07 12:00 PM
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8. Oh my god!

So he thinks the country was safer because the war was continued for another couple of years, with several thousand more American deaths and tens or hundreds of thousands of additional Vietnamese deaths. Yeah, that made us a lot safer. If not for that, the Vietnamese Communists probably would have come here to fight us in the streets of New York City.

That stupid statement of Rudy's should be used against him in the general election if he gets that far.

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Sat Nov-24-07 12:01 PM
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9. Flip Flopper!!

:rofl:

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