Fred Phelps and WBC: All you need is love.

We need to get together a bunch of people to go love them. If they get physically violent, then they can be arrested, and we can sue them for injuring us.

But if they respect us and our right to speak freely and demonstrate, then I don't honestly believe anyone can turn down an honest show of love.

These people are obviously not thinking right, or they are trying to make a point.

What we need to do is show these people love, they are only violent in their words.

If we protest outside their little compound daily with signs saying we love them and care about them, and we want them to enjoy their lives once again, and to turn away from the darkness of hatred, I think we might get a couple of them, if not all, eventually.

It's easy to hate these people, and I think that's what they want.

We do not have the right to shut them up through the law, but we do have the right to shut them up through social pressure.

won't work and he was NEVER a prominent civil rights leader although I keep seeing that. He was always a crook. Settled most everything out of court to the disadvantage of his client but never to him. He has never been right and they do not want anyone's love except those who are on their perverted side.

I've been reading some things about him this morning. His son and people who've been around him (and I think, he himself) have said he becomes very angry if there is too much happiness around him.

I think reading this stuff is why I have a headache this morning. I'm not normally prone to headaches. But reading about him and his 'family'...ick, just ick!

ignore him, he wouldn't do this if it didn't get attention.

...firsthand, up close and personal.

The way they stay active is by suing everyone that tries something on them. WBC is one of the most litigious groups around. They don't need a love in. They need major psychiatric intervention.

1. Try to protect the children of the "church" by getting social services to remove them from the "care" of their current parents. We would need good lawyers, because as you said, they are a very litigious group, and they know how to exploit our legal system for their benefit.

2. Look into literally getting psychiatric help for the father, Fred, because it appears he's had some sort of breakdown.

3. For the kids older and younger, we need to try an get them away from this hateful ideology. We could do this by surrounding their house with caring people trying to get them to leave.

If they become violent at any time, that would be grounds to get them arrested, and that would accomplish the goal of getting them to stop this bullshit.

that none of this has been tried before?

You can't take their kids away because you disagree with them. In fact, you would have a difficult time because in most of the social services you will find one of their family members working their day job, even in the jail. They have it covered.

Hey, if you want to come down and repeat everything that has never worked on the off chance that it will this time then go for it. I would like nothing more than to be rid of these people but I think you will not have a single effect on them except to garner them more media attention and that attention is the driving force behind the group, especially the old man.

I respect your desires to do this but after a life time around these people I really think you would be wasting your time.