What's in a name? Carlyle Group. Why did *they* pick the name 'Carlyle'

Does it mean/signify anything? Seems sort of random ~ which isn't typical neo-con MO (Modus Operandi).

There's Thomas Carlyle....but his philosophy (or lack of one) doesn't seem like a good reason to name one of the most powerful amassings of fortune, wealth, and resources after......

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Thomas Carlyle (December 4, 1795 – February 5, 1881) was a Scottish essayist, satirist, and historian, whose work was hugely influential during the Victorian era. Coming from a strict Calvinist family, Carlyle was expected by his parents to become a preacher. However, while at the University of Edinburgh, he lost his Christian faith; nevertheless, Calvinist values remained with him throughout his life. This combination of a religious temperament with loss of faith in traditional Christianity made Carlyle's work appealing to many Victorians who were grappling with scientific and political changes that threatened the traditional social order.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Carlyle
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Why "Carlyle"?

As they wanted the firm to outlive them, the founders named the firm after the upper east side hotel in New York City, the Carlyle Hotel, where they first met to discuss the idea. Carlyle's current chairman is Lou Gerstner, former chairman and CEO of IBM and Nabisco.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_group

Side note: Where did the names Bilderberger and Rothschild come from? Same mechanism.

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Rothschild family

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the most famous of all European banking dynasties, which for some 200 years exerted great influence on the economic and, indirectly, the political history of Europe. The house was founded by Mayer Amschel Rothschild (b. Feb. 23, 1744, Frankfurt am Main—d. Sept. 19, 1812, Frankfurt) and his five sons, Amschel Mayer (b. June 12, 1773, Frankfurt—d. Dec. 6, 1855, Frankfurt), Salomon Mayer (b. Sept. 9, 1774—d. July 27, 1855, Vienna), Nathan…

http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9064192/Rothschild-family
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Bilderberger.....not so easy to find good relevent info on, but it would be interesting to know more of the history/origin(s) of "Bilderberger", no?

It's "Bilderberg," and like the Carlyle Group, it's named after the hotel where the first meetings were held.

After all, spelling is so bourgeois!



Kitty Carlisle and Adolph "Harpo" Marx

Calvinism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvinism

Inherent in Calvinism is the notion of the "elect". Certain people are destined by God to be saved and others are not. Nice idea, as long as you consider yourself the elect.

There's also this:

Just what Hughes didn't want to happen....did happen. His lawyers got ALL of his fortune....includes James Baker....George H W Bush and others. They completely finagled his estate...cheating everyone along the way, in my opinion.

Unless all of those old bastards were banging Kitty Carlisle in the old days, and went for a subtle misspelling so as to not tip their hands!!!!

there are several good sites on the internet that explain how to do simple searches and such. Even GOOGLE has a realy nice easy to follow tutorial.

Re: Carlyle Group search stay away from the 'conspiracy' sites, you will find ample material for a the 'dark' picture following business, and news links. Occasionally keep track of board of directors names and follow a few of them. Carlyle has changed coiurse several times, from being an almost monopoly on radioactive waste in the late nineties to dabbling in legitinmate consumer companies of late. Carlucci, Bush, BAker influence seems on the wane, as Aiello and Rubenstein have retaken the reins, so to speak.

Again, do NOT get tangled in the 'nutcase' sites, I guarantee you will be quite satisfied with the fear endophines reality will furnish you.

Along with some *other* vipers at CARTER's breast: Tweety and Pat CADDELL. CADDELL was a pollster, credited with CARTER's big win. He has had a long string of losses ever since, whether of candidates or the New Coke, and has been bashing Dems for years on some kind of disgruntled grounds, something about their not being as pure as he or somesuch. Tweety's viperness needs no elaboration here.

Actually, something more to wonder about is why RUBENSTEIN has chosen to make mostly Rethugs rich(er) instead of Dems.

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.... In a column posted yesterday on Salon.com, Joe Conason writes: "Preferring to avoid public scrutiny for obvious reasons, executives at the Carlyle Group usually say nothing about their firm's connections with the Bush dynasty. But last April 23, Carlyle managing director David Rubenstein spoke quite frankly about the comfy sinecure he provided to George W. Bush more than a decade ago -- and how useless Bush turned out to be. Whether he knew it or not, Rubenstein's remarks to the Los Angeles County Employees Retirement Association were recorded."

Rubenstein said, "We put (Bush) on the board and (he) spent three years. Came to all the meetings. Told a lot of jokes. Not that many clean ones. And after a while I kind of said to him, after about three years - you know, I'm not sure this is really for you. Maybe you should do something else. Because I don't think you're adding that much value to the board. You don't know that much about the company.

Rubenstein continued: "He said, 'Well, I think I'm getting out of this business anyway. And I don't really like it that much. So I'm probably going to resign from the board.' And I said, thanks - didn't think I'd ever see him again. His name is George W. Bush. He became President of the United States. So you know if you said to me, name 25 million people who would maybe be President of the United States, he wouldn't have been in that category. So you never know. Anyway, I haven't been invited to the White House for any things." ....

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