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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 07:42 AM
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Now that CSPAN has gone off the deep end, Mark Penn, Hillarian aide
is polluting the airways on MSNBC.

grand poo BAH of the hillary campaign. what a horrid way to start the day.
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Nictuku Donating Member (907 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 07:45 AM
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1. My sentiment exactly

I actually get up at 4 am and watch C-SPAN. This is the first time that I can recall in it not being on. It was like the sun not coming up one day.

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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 07:46 AM
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2. Wha-wha WHAAAAT??
What's going on?
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 07:49 AM
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3. cpsin has two reich-farts on air, instead of Wash Jourinal.
Their idea of a story is whether some football team will play next week because of the death of their player.
MSNBC had hillary's chief campaign aide, spinning her position, ignoring facts, and promoting his book. AND NOT ONE HARD QUESTION ABOUT HIS anti-union work, his many pro-corporate positions that Hillary seems to have adopted.
But the good news is MSNBC just put on Ron Paul


IT MUST BE A CONSPIRACY! What is going on? Did Dick Cheney die? Did we invade Iran, and they are hiding that fact from us?
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 11:16 AM
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4. Yeah...what's the deal with that garbage on TV this morning?
The interview with Ron Paul on "Joe" was awful....we heard nothing about Paul's viewpoints. All Joe was interested in, I guess, was how did Ron Paul raise all those dollars so fast! Horrible programs this morning.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 11:21 AM
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6. and don't forget his work for Blackwater
.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 11:21 AM
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5. You think Hillary Clinton runs CSPAN?
This whole site needs a big doze of lorazepam.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:10 PM
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7. how in the whirled did that idea come out of my post?
I mentioned cspin on one hand, and for comparison, Mark Penn spewing his spin (or is it spinning his spew? Spawning his spurt?) on MSNBC.

I must have missed something.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:12 PM
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8. Why is it outside the realm of reasonableness
for CSPAN to have the strategist for the top candidate on?

You think they're shilling for Clinton?

Ooh! CSPAN - we need those 46 votes!
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:16 PM
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9. the guys on CSPAN were grandy and andy, two morons from DC talk radio
conservative assholes - and that is being polite. THAT is what I meant be jumping off the deep end.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:22 PM
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10. What are you saying?
Because the hosts were conservatives (and I've never heard of them) that their guests were, too?

How strange.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:34 PM
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11. monkey, two separate issues.
MSNBC - joe girlkiller had Mark Penn on.
CSPAN - had three doofuses, two of whom are named grandy and andy. Penn was NOT on CSPAN. He was shilling for hill and his book on msnbc.

If CSPAN HAD Penn on, I would have expected better questions, more knowledgable inquiries, and some issues like his business clients, etc. There was none of that on MSNBC.

I hope that clears up any unclarity my original post caused, and for that I apologize.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:46 PM
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13. sigh...
it's so much work to be reasonable here.

First, as much as I think Scarborough's a douche, it's my understanding that he wasn't even in the office when that girl died. He was hundreds of miles away.

But the point is, why shouldn't shows about politics have Mark Penn on as a guest? Do you think having somebody on as a guest is an endorsement? What, exactly, is the problem?
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:59 PM
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14. we agree that he SHOULD be on.
however, is it not the responsibility of the host to at least inquire of the guest at least one or two issues which matter? There are a whole slew of issues revolving around Penn, and Scar-burro never even touched on one. Even the Daily show, which shills authors with the best of them, spends time and effort to ask critical questions and dig into important, timely issues. Come to think of that, the Daily show does more of that than many news programs.
Lou Dobbs, despite his myopia on immigration, (and his insanity a a few other issues) actually asks some hard questions of his guests. And he gives them an opportunity to respond. (unlike everyone on Faux).

I guess my complaint is that Joe was acting like a shill, with not one incisive or critical question. Lazy? Biased? Both? I dunno.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:04 PM
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16. I presume Penn was on in his capacity
as a Clinton advisor.

As much as you and many others here want the smear-by-association tactic to be used against Clinton, it would just be silly for a national talk-show host to ask Penn about his PR firm. It's not relevant to national issues.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:36 PM
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12. How has C-SPAN 'gone off the deep end?'
:shrug:
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:02 PM
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15. they had an idiot talk radio "shew" on, featuring two
morons from a conservative station. Their whole gig was ads, discussion about some dead footballer, more ads, and weather. Just what a station dedicated to political process and political news needs to do.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:09 PM
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18. agree - I emailed my complaint - they are going to do it 2 more days

two different radio stations

who ever thought that up must be the same one who takes us on historical site visits instead of what Wash. Journal is for.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:05 PM
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17. Do you turn on
m$$$$m to see what the enemy is up to? Cause there'd be no other reason for a progressive who's into facts to do that..I know you're not a masochist!

And, you were very clear in your OP what you meant..I hope fucking c-span has some left wing radio hosts on to counter balance the crap they had on today.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:18 PM
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19. To be honest, I am secretly in lust with Zbig's smart and pretty daughter
and love to hear her talk.
Did I say lust? I meant love.
Did I say love? I meant I am partial towards her.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:25 PM
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20. Which begs the question from me..
Who is Zbig?
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:26 PM
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21. Former National Security advisor (1977-1981) to president Carter. Wiki link:
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 01:32 PM by CottonBear
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:28 PM
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22. Oh, that
Zbig! :)
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:28 PM
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23. Mika Brzezinski. She cohosts with Joe.
Zbgniew's child is quite a lovely and smart lady.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:30 PM
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24. Wow..is she
some kind of balance to joe? This person you're partial to?
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:32 PM
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25. check out this video. hard not to love her.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:40 PM
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27. Double WOW!
I see your freaking point! antifaschits :loveya: Mika!

So KO isn't the only real person who msnbc has!
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:34 PM
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26. Here's a link to the video when she refused to read a Paris Hilton story on air:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:42 PM
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28. I just saw that!
I'd read about on DU at the time but didn't see the video..thanks, ya'll for setting me str-aight!
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:04 PM
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29. I LOVE Mika! LAst week, her dad was a guest on the show in the studio with her and Joe! n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:21 PM
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30. Mika is the
anti-mediawhore and she puts all those bushite slavering bimbos on cnn to dirty rotten shame.

How cool is that? When a tv newscaster can have her dad on who was Carter's National Security Adviser?!
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 07:35 PM
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31. smart, with-it-cool, and a sense of responsibility about the MSM industry.
hard to argue with all of that.
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