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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 08:52 AM
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Breaking news: pregnant, white woman missing
I saw this linked on the CNN main site this morning.

http://www.koco.com/news/14698289/detail.html

I can understand this being a local issue, but why must the national media jump on practically any story involving an attractive young white woman? How many other people went missing over the past few days that got no mention at all in the national media?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 08:56 AM
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1. Those darned white people! n/t
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 09:02 AM
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2. It's simple: Marketing Division found out such a stories increase readership
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 09:06 AM by tom_paine
and therefore, profit.

Stories about missing white GUYS (unless they are rich)...not so much. And even if they are rich (and therefore, real human beings in the eyes of the media), don't expect the blanket coverage with hot missing white chicks, because I am sure marketing shows no niche of prospective buyers who will pump up ratings and profit over sexual titillation of a missing white GUY.

Nothing scores big ol' Nielsen ratings like a hot, missing white woman. Nothing.

Conversely, harping on stories of disappeared black or brown Enemies of the State, be they Imperial Subjects of Amerika or among the million-plus dead Iraqis, are real downers and a sure-fire way to lose readership or viewership, and therefore profit.

End of story. Bring me the next hot, missing white woman! And don't skimp on the hotness, you kidnapping rapist murderers!

:sarcasm: :puke:

Yes, this is what it's come down to today in Bush-occupied Imperial Amerika, which is about marketing, lies, and little else.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 09:06 AM
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3. As annoying as this coverage can be, is it necessary to ask this question every single time?
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 09:16 AM
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5. Well, it might be nice if the media gave other victims coverage also
When is the last time you saw a story on CNN or Faux News about some young pregnant black woman who was either murdered or kidnapped?

Sure, it's annoying - for a reason. It's tragic whenever anything like this happens - but for the media to focus primarily on the more "appealing" cases and ignoring the vast majority of other ones doesn't sit very well with me. The only way the media is ever going to change its methods is for people like us to say something about it. We're not saying to not cover these cases - but try to make it a little more fair.
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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:28 AM
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24. Stories about missing white GUYS ???
Just ask the Repug members of congress that are resigning like hotcakes lately...they'll tell ya where they are :hi:
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:03 PM
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50. yes, we do! And we are obligated to be shocked, simply SHOCKED when it turns out the father of the
child was somehow involved!
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 09:14 AM
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4. While channel hopping this weekend I came across an
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 09:19 AM by LibDemAlways
old NBC 1 hour Laci Peterson related interview. Matt Lauer was interviewing Scott Peterson's long lost sister (who had been given up for adoption and hardly knew him) for the entire show. She was (what else) plugging a book she had written about Scott. Lauer was rehashing every sordid detail about the case America was supposedly "obsessed" with.

Watching it for a few pathetic minutes I couldn't help but think that in the US honest journalism aimed at the masses is, if not officially dead, on life support at best. And, yes, the media does seem to focus more on white women, but that's not what I think about when I hear this crap.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 09:54 AM
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10. Laci Peterson was not white
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 09:55 AM
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12. I know, but I would be willing to bet most of
America doesn't.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:04 AM
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14. She sure looks white to me.
http://www.lacipeterson.com/photographs.html

Check out this photo of her and her mother and she sure was not adopted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Forlaci-rochasharon.jpg
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 09:20 AM
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6. I'm sure it's not just a white but an Anglo, we know America couldn't care about missing
African-Americans or Hispanics, but I don't think they care about missing Italians or Irish either.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 09:54 AM
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11. What is an "Anglo"? nt
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:09 AM
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17. I use it for people of English or Anglo-Saxon decent
United States
And no I don't care if the term offends them.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo

In the Southwest United States, Anglo, short for Anglo-American, refers to non-Hispanic White Americans or European Americans, most of whom speak the English language but are not necessarily of English descent. The term was introduced by Mexicans speaking English as a second language, and has been regularly used by mainstream media such as the Los Angeles Times despite being considered ungrammatical and offensive to some. In the 2000 Census, 24.5 million Americans (8.7%)<4> reported English ancestry. The figure is self-reported and is likely far higher in reality since partial English ancestry is common among Americans who, accordingly, tend to emphasize the more distinctive aspects of their heritage to census takers .

Anglo can simply refer to English-speaking population or media. The term is also used as a technically incorrect synonym for White. Non-hispanic Whites constitute roughly 70% of the total population. Also, Anglo is usually found in contrast with Jewish, even though most non-Anglo people do not see this contrast. <5>

Most non-Hispanics in the United States who speak English but are not of English ancestry generally do not identify themselves as "Anglo" and some of them find the term offensive. For instance, some Cajuns in south Louisiana use the term to refer to area whites who do not have Francophone backgrounds. Irish Americans, the second largest ethnic goup in the United States following German-Americans, also often take umbrage at being called "Anglo."<6> Additionally, other ethnic groups who do not identify as having English ancestary such as Italian Americans, Danish Americans, Greek Americans, Jewish Americans, Polish Americans, and Middle Eastern Americans tend not to identify themselves as Anglo. Americans of English descent may also be offended at being labeled "Anglo" (as opposed to Anglo-American or Anglo-Saxon).
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:16 AM
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19. How can you tell if a person is of English descent by looking at him?
Using "Anglo" for any white American is the equivalent of calling every Hispanic "Mexican", regardless of whether he is Cuban, Dominican, etc.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:20 AM
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20. I said I could tell just by looking? You must have made that lie up yourself.
Also you left off "or Anglo-Saxon decent," but if you are going to make up lies why not just change what I said.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:25 AM
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21. It's just, unless you have access to genealogical info., I can't see the word being very useful...
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 10:26 AM by Romulox
How often do you come across a person who is unambiguously of English descent such that you are comfortable labeling them an "Anglo"? And furthermore, even if this idiosyncratic usage is truly how you use it, the article you excerpted makes it clear that is not the general usage of the term--the word is not reserved for English people or those with Cockney accents.

So again, the term "Anglo" (read: white guy) is about as offensive as calling any Hispanic "Mexican" without regard for his ethnicity or country of origin. What is truly ironic is that the term is primarily advanced by native English speaking Hispanics, who are as precisely as "Anglo" as I. :eyes:
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:34 AM
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25. I told you how I use it and I also told you I don't care if it offends them
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 10:35 AM by RGBolen
And you once again left off "or Anglo-Saxon decent"


On a side note, go talk with some Hispanics and refer to them as your Anglo brothers and see if they agree with you on that.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 11:44 AM
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27. At least you're honest. Can you imagine calling a Cuban "Mexican" and then saying you don't care
if he's offended?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 11:47 AM
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29. I'm not calling anyone by a National name. Do you think there is a country called Angloland?
Also Anglo-Saxon includes more than just English.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 11:57 AM
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30. "Anglo" is an ethnicity. And the Angles gave their name to a country called ENGL -land...
"Also Anglo-Saxon includes more than just English."

It doesn't include Irish, or Polish, or Italian, or Russian, or Scottish, or Czech...

Can you imagine calling a Chinese person Japanese, then saying you don't care if he's offended? :wtf:
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:01 PM
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32. It's Anglos I don't care if I offend

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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:19 PM
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35. We've already established that you have no clue as to whether people are "Anglos" or not...
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:24 PM
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38. I guess you've established that. Think what you want, I don't really have reason to care.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:37 PM
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46. The whole point of asking you what you meant was to elicit this off-guard response.
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 04:37 PM by Romulox
Its incoherence speaks for itself.

I knew damn well what you meant by "Anglo". ;)
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:47 PM
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48. I'm Irish I grew up in an Irish houshold, and that's what we call those people

I actually left off the word that usually goes in front of it to not be rude.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:01 PM
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49. LOL. "Those people"...nt
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:36 PM
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34. The display of ignorant presumption about one's background could be seen as charming,
or mildly amusing, with the joke being on the one making the ignorant assumption.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:25 PM
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39. What I'm concerned about is that he doesn't seem to know that it's ignorant...
even after having it explained to him.

Either that, or he is merely trolling.
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 03:16 PM
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42. The term "Anglo" for white person is common usage in the Southwest.
It helps draw a distinction between Hispanics and non-black non-Hispanics. (See, it's easier to just say "Anglos.")

No one thinks it means you came from England. Sheesh.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:36 PM
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45. It's also "easier" to call all Asians "Chinese". Convenience doesn't make it right
And respect sounds in the concept of mutuality.

Calling all white guys "Anglo" = calling all brown people "Mexican". It's ignorant and lazy at best, and "everybody's doing it" is a lame excuse.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 11:46 AM
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28. Just out of curiosity, who is of "Anglo-Saxon decent" (sic), and how do you identify them? nt
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 11:58 AM
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31. Let's see do you often look at and hear say Trent Lott and wonder if he's Greek, Irish or Italian
Of course some people have more or less ethic accents and appearances, and surnames get ethnicity crossed all the time. My cousin is just as Irish as she was before she took her husband's surname of Lopez. Many times you can ask people what their ethnicity is.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:20 PM
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36. I have no clue what Trent Lott's ethnicity is. Are you claiming he's English? nt
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:24 PM
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37. So you claim there are no Anglos in America because their birth certificates are from here?
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:27 PM
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41. I have no idea who is an "Anglo in America". Neither do you. So who are you calling "Anglo"?
Trent Lott may be English. He also may not.

Just like your Asian co-worker may be Chinese, or may be Japanese, or Thai... You can't say "I'm just gonna call you Chinese because I can't be bothered to learn about ethnicity." :eyes:
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 03:31 PM
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43. Did you read post #17?
This whole argument is silly. Using Anglo for non-Hispanic whites in the Southwest is common usage, even if you don't understand that.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:30 PM
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44. There are LOTS of words common in the South that are nonetheless unacceptable
That's what YOU seem to misapprehend! ;)
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:11 PM
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33. Catherine Zeta Jones is an anglo, but she played a senorita in Zorro films.
She's from Wales. Why are you are so eager to define people according to their heritage?
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:13 AM
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18. Again, Laci Peterson attracted a lot of attention
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:27 AM
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22. We're stilling trying to figure out if she's "Anglo". Many missing Englishmen in the US news??? nt
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 09:29 AM
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7. Why should we watch LA car chases?
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 09:30 AM by higher class
Are these all more important than the erosion of a country, world, and illegal wars, loss of rights?

There was a grand sea change in coverage and expensive programs to watch missing persons, prisons and pedophiles.

By the way is GE/MSNBC still doing prisons and pedophiles?
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 09:30 AM
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8. Seriously, this should only be on the national news if the missing person has
blond hair.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 09:50 AM
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9. What did Bushco do now?
My wife & I noticed that when we get a 'missing white woman' story it always occurs in conjunction with some really bad news from Bushco. This is the MSM way of avoiding real news.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 09:56 AM
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13. What a shame that this irritates you. Many "local stories" are on CNN
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 10:00 AM by Bluebear
'I can understand this being a local issue' - so she might not turn up in Maine? Or Alberta?

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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:49 AM
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26. Yes, a lot of things irritate me
Would you like me to make a list of everything that irritates you, so you can let me know which of them are worthy and which ones are not worthy?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:42 PM
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47. Temper, temper~!
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:05 AM
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15. OH. MY. GOD!!! Is her name Peterson also????? Lacy or Stacy or Macy? nt
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:07 AM
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16. and teevee gnews 'jazz hands'
has a Xmas present!
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:28 AM
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23. Gheesh! She has a lot of nerve! And pregnant too??
:banghead:





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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:27 PM
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40. Being white and pregnant doesn't get your story covered
Your story is more likely to gain legs if you are. But just color and pregnancy doesn't make it a slam dunk.


Woonsocket, RI
25 year old mother of 2
5 months pregnant
Last time her family saw her alive was at a a fireworks display.
There was no search, no manhunt, no mass media, not even a footnote in the paper.
The footnote came a year later when she was found dismembered by a crazy man who lived down the street from me.
He killed a half dozen women, all invisable and un-noticed living less then perfect lives.
He is in jail for life.

You don't know his name, you don't know his victims names. All were white.
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