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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:06 PM
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Is Barack Obama a fundamentalist Christian?
I've heard he is a member of the Church of Christ, which, at least imho, has always been associated with fundamentalism.

I don't really know, but his religious affiliation has bothered me for awhile.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:08 PM
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1. You never know with fundies because they all lie all the time,
but Barack doesn't seem to be one of those.

He does, however, have a thing for faith-based government, so he's probably not the best bet for our Constitutional democracy.
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:14 PM
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10. On Free Republic...
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 05:45 PM by theredpen
...that's what they say about Muslims. In fact, many of them believe that Obama is secretly still a Muslim and lying to get elected. Go on over and check it out.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:24 PM
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16. Oh, lordy... I hear that madrasa stuff on Puke radio all the time.
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 05:29 PM by BuyingThyme
Those people really are crazy. They're just about to the point where they believe Barack is hiding Saddam's WMD in a madrasa in Syria. It makes sense to them because his middle name is Hussein.
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:41 PM
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21. But did you see the one about Hillary's lesbian affair with an Al Qaeda operative?
I kid you not (Google for it, if you're curious).
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:50 PM
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26. Seriously?
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 05:54 PM by tammywammy
I gotta look that up just for the laugh factor. How ridiculous and you know people believe that crap too about her. :eyes:

edited to add: Okay, I saw a picture of who Hillary's having the affair with. And all I gotta say in props to Hillary, Huma Abedin is hawt. (Oh, and just in case, yes I don't really think Hillary's having an affair and I wouldn't care anyways).
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 06:09 PM
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29. I have not heard about that, but I will believe it until the day I die.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:09 PM
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2. When he's talking to a bunch of them, absolutely. Or so he claims.
:eyes:
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jzola Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:10 PM
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3. He is a member of The United Church of Christ.
Very liberal and thoughtful. Far from Fundamentalist.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:10 PM
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4. I think you are confusing a couple of churches


"Stone/Campbell" church of Christ

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churches_of_Christ

United Church of Christ
which is the one Senator Obama is a member
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Church_of_Christ
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:11 PM
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5. He's a member of the United Church of Christ. not a fundie church.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:11 PM
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6. No, I don't think he's a "fundie"
Here's a link to the church he goes to

http://www.tucc.org/home.htm
Trinity United Church of Christ is a very liberal church.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:14 PM
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11. Thanks for the clarification.
I was hoping to learn more about this, and DU never disappoints! :)
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:16 PM
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12. If you really want to learn more about Obama
I suggest reading his book Audacity of Hope. He does an excellent job explaining what he believes.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:12 PM
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7. evangelical. nt.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:12 PM
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8. No. n/t
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:13 PM
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9. He's UCC not C of C
The United Church of Christ used to be the Congregationalists. The Church of Christ is different and highly variable. C of C churches have a lot of local control over what they do. The C of C in Boston was on the Cult Awareness Network's watchlist (until the Church of Scientology sued the CAN out of existence); most of C of C churches are pretty mainstream, although they do tend to lean fundy.

Obama's Church espouses liberation theology which is very liberal.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:23 PM
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15. Thank you -- very good history
UCC (more liberal wing) split off from the Congregational Church in the '50s. My father was a UCC minister and my material grandparents quit going to church when the split occurred ... bad blood that basically remained for the rest of their lives, unfortunately. UCC and Congregational churches are quite different now -- I'd consider some Congregational churches to be more "fundie" but the UCC is definitely mainline, liberal, not fundamentalist in the least.
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:45 PM
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22. Thanks for the info
Ah! I thought the Congregationalists had all become UCC and was called "United" because it was formed from several different churches. I didn't realize there were still Congregational churches around.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:16 PM
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13. I don't know.
Originally, Fundamentalist Christians were identified with the political left. They supported social welfare, labor laws and pacifism. Probably the best example was W.J. Bryan two-time Democratic presidential nominee and prosecutor of the Scopes monkey trial. He thought advances being made in science, especially with Darwinian evolution meant that people had no intrinsic value. Like all fundamentalists, he ran away from the evidence instead of examining what it really meant.

I do not think Obama is in the same mold as con artists like Falwell and Pat Robertson, but I cannot rule out the possibility that he may be the W.J. Bryan type of Fundamentalist. Even then I doubt it. I really don't see Obama as a Biblical literalist which is what Fundamentalism means.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:19 PM
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14. His church backs gay marriage but Obama does not.
I think he is more "conservative" than the church he belongs to, not the other way around.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/07/05/united_church_of_christ_backs_gay_nuptials/
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:27 PM
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17. I'm none religion after being raised baptist
who cares except for the fundies that is, as to what religion he is

if his religious affiliation is important to you then I suggest you not vote. Religion is killing us
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:27 PM
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18. UNITED Church of Christ, not the Church of Christ.
The UCC is an extremely liberal, gay friendly, anti-war, and progressive church.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:49 PM
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25. Yep! Proud to be a member!
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 06:10 PM
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30. Same here.
nt
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:28 PM
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19. I had always heard that the Church of Christ was a very liberal denomination.
That's the impression I have anyway. :shrug:
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Lord Wortherington Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:30 PM
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20. Religion is the most imortant issue to a lot of African American voters.
Drive by a black church on Sunday. People are there from 8:00 am to 8:00 pm. I have also noticed that African Americans are being recruited by the anti-abortion crowd for their religiosity. Religion is one of the most important if not THE most important issue for blacks.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 06:06 PM
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28. R.I.P.

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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:46 PM
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23. I'm CoC and we're not anything close to fundies...
We attend my wifes childhood church it's the most liberal church I've ever been a member of.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:46 PM
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24. his church teaches liberation theology
so the answer is a strong no.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:52 PM
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27. I support HRC, but come on folks, we are democrats, liberals
yellow dogs, blue dogs, and not the committee to see if Obama worships this or that way. Does it really matter?

Ben David
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 06:30 PM
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31. I was just curious, and yes, a little concerned.
I didn't know about the difference between CofC and UCofC. This has been an informative discussion and I am much enlightened.

Remember that old mantra from college: "there's no such thing as a stupid question?"

:hi:
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