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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 08:54 AM
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A true blue American weighs in on Chavez
Edited on Sat Dec-01-07 08:55 AM by cali
Oops, forgot to add that's a true blue American FASCIST, weighing in- Donald Rumsfeld in today's edition of (what else) the Washington Post. Here for your post-breakfast purging needs is a preview: (and don't forget to note the last paragraph pasted wherein ex-Secretary Fascist blames the internet bloggers.

The Smart Way to Beat Tyrants Like Chávez

By Donald Rumsfeld
Sunday, December 2, 2007; Page B03

Today the people of Venezuela face a constitutional referendum, which, if passed, could obliterate the few remaining vestiges of Venezuelan democracy. The world is saying little and doing less as President Hugo Chávez dismantles Venezuela's constitution, silences its independent media and confiscates private property. Chávez's ambitions do not stop at Venezuela's borders, either. He has repeatedly threatened its neighbors. In late November, Colombia's president, Alvaro Uribe, declared that Chávez's efforts to mediate hostage talks with Marxist terrorists from the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, were not welcome. Chávez responded by freezing trade with Colombia.

With diplomatic, economic and communications institutions designed for a different era, the free world has too few tools to help prevent Venezuela's once vibrant democracy from receding into dictatorship. But such a tragedy is not preordained. In fact, we face a moment when swift decisions by the United States and like-thinking nations could dramatically help, supporting friends and allies with the courage to oppose an aspiring dictator with regional ambitions.


The best place to start is with the prompt passage and signing of the Colombian free trade agreement, which has been languishing in Congress for months. Swift U.S. ratification of the pact would send an unequivocal message to the people of Colombia, the opposition in Venezuela and the wider region that they do not stand alone against Chávez. It would also provide concrete economic opportunities to the people of Colombia, helping to offset the restrictions being imposed by Venezuela -- and it would strengthen the U.S. economy in the bargain.

<snip>

Meanwhile, a new generation of foes has mastered the tools of the information age -- chat rooms, blogs, cellphones, social-networking Web sites -- and exploits them to spread propaganda, even while the U.S. government remains poorly organized and equipped to counter with the truth in a timely manner. The nation needs a 21st-century "U.S. Agency for Global Communications" to inform, to educate and to compete in the struggle of ideas -- and to keep its enemies from capitalizing on the pervasive myths that stoke anti-Americanism.

Read the rest if you can stand it:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/30/AR2007113001800.html
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 08:57 AM
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1. rumsfeld's ego thinks anyone cares what he has to say on any subject
get thee gone, donnie

a u.s. agency for global communications to inform, to educate and to compete in the struggle of ideas....sounds like a ministry of propaganda, donnie.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 09:03 AM
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2. no shit. and don't they already have several of those anyway?
the WaPo certainly is living down to its horrendous reputation.
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 09:09 AM
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3. "Wrong-Way-Rummy" is on the job. Must maintain that filter on the information.
"struggle of ideas" = propaganda to these people.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 09:14 AM
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4. he's just another pathologial liar.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 09:17 AM
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5. This why these cockroaches have to be punished.
They keep coming back trying to sell their neocon agenda crap by decorating it with ribbons. They never give up, unless they are punished.

Impeachment, prosecution and jail time are the only things these scum understand.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 09:42 AM
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6. I swear Rumsfeld posts here at DU
Just have a feeling.

Don
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 09:53 AM
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7. I think Rummy is being very disingenuous when he says, "even while the U.S. government
remains poorly organized and equipped to counter with the truth".

You can bet your bottom dollar that there is some government program somewhere who hires people to go out and read these blogs and surf these chat rooms to obfuscate and misdirect.

And to be honest about it, it goes on right here, all the time.

Am I being cynical?
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 09:55 AM
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8. People still listen to him?
I can't even understand what the fuck he's trying to say.

With diplomatic, economic and communications institutions designed for a different era, the free world has too few tools to help prevent Venezuela's once vibrant democracy from receding into dictatorship.

What the fuck does that mean?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 10:05 AM
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10. yeah, that's meaningless bullshit.
I don't know who's listening to him, but he's getting column inch space in D.C.'s "paper of record".
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 12:53 PM
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11. That's an unknown - unknown. Duh, haven't you been paying attention?
:+
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 10:05 AM
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9. Here's that last paragraph, illustrated
Courtesy of the Propaganda Remix Project



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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 12:56 PM
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12. Do i detect a bit of envy in Rummy's words?
"The world is saying little and doing less as President Hugo Chávez dismantles Venezuela's constitution, silences its independent media and confiscates private property. Chávez's ambitions do not stop at Venezuela's borders, either. He has repeatedly threatened its neighbors."
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 01:01 PM
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13. Hmmm, with just a few word changes, rummy would actually be telling the truth!
"The world is saying little and doing less as PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH dismantles THE UNITED STATES constitution, silences its independent media and confiscates private property. BUSH'S ambitions do not stop at THE US'S borders, either. He has repeatedly threatened its neighbors."

Capitals indicate my word changes.
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