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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:07 PM Original message |
Poll question: Would you support a pro-life candidate if you agreed with his positions on all other issues? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. I didn't vote in your poll |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. For me it does not. |
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journalist3072 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
2. I hate that term "pro-life." I think the more appropriate term is "anti-choice." |
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lolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Exactly. |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
35. Seconded |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
42. "anti-abortion" would be more appropriate. |
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journalist3072 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Sorry...I don't think "anti-abortion" is appropriate either. No one, even those of us who are |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. I think you're overstating |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Some people are pretty neutral about abortion |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. I'm using "pro" as "for" not so much "thinks is fabulous" |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. "An abortion doctor" is a women's health care provider. Why are people so sucked in by the Reich |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Jesus Christ. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. yes you did. and using the term reinforces the misconception my post tried to correct |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. And in that line of work, |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 05:21 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. right |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:54 PM Response to Reply #60 |
77. Doctor I know does abortions and artificial inseminations. What does that make him? |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. what we need to agree on is the right of women/families to make private medical decisions privately |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:12 PM Response to Reply #47 |
89. No - we don't all agree on that |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
43. I like "Forced-Birther" |
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Mme. Defarge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 12:19 AM Response to Reply #2 |
101. Why don't we be honest enough |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 06:52 AM Response to Reply #101 |
105. I agree. I've always hated both pro-life and pro choice. |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:15 PM Original message |
No I dont think I could |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
4. Dupe |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
5. Yes. |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
7. I guess it would be determined |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
8. Support? No. |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
9. i love litmus tests |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
10. Is anyone here ANTI-life? |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Democrats are. |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. that's very disheartening. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Those are the 24% that still love Bush. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
44. "Baby killer" |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Exactly the same people |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #48 |
57. Big surprise |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. good answer |
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AdHocSolver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #44 |
85. It is unsportsmanlike to "kill" it in the womb - Once it is out, it is fair game. n/t |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:19 PM Response to Reply #85 |
91. Indeed |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
90. you could have said |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
11. You're never going to find a candidate that you and them agree 100% on every issue. |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. when it comes to my reproductive health, |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. So if the choice was between the above candidate... |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
74. yep. |
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Betty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
38. for me, reproductive rights |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. So, as proposed in another message, what would you do in the following scenario. |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:11 PM Response to Reply #41 |
88. What a surprise - calling someone who disagrees with you an idiot |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 08:34 AM Response to Reply #88 |
107. Did you choose option B or C? |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #41 |
92. True, the view that women are human beings |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 08:36 AM Response to Reply #92 |
108. See post 107 |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #38 |
81. Yes, the implications go well beyond abortion |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
13. I'm not inclined to drink water that's 1% cyanide. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. I'm not sure how public he's going to be about his position |
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AdHocSolver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
83. Since he doesn't publicize his position in a "right-wing" district, he is sensitive to Democratic .. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 08:46 AM Response to Reply #83 |
109. Thanks for your good sense. |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
16. This means he MUST vote to overturn Roe V WADe. |
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dragonlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #16 |
70. This candidate is not running for the Senate |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:28 PM Response to Reply #70 |
94. That is NOT the only way to kill choice |
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dragonlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:56 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. Very true |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:51 PM Response to Reply #96 |
100. you clearly have much more faith |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
18. Nope. Deal-breaker. nt |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
21. Fuck, no, and since this is Democratic Underground |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Relax. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
23. I call the "pro-life" stance what it REALLY is: |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. But the way our system works |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
39. It doesn't because you're not an idiot. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
78. It is not "simply one issue" to me. It is reproductive choice. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. I'm a female who came of age just after abortion was legalized |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 06:55 AM Response to Reply #24 |
106. As I stated below, that logic doesn't work so well with reproductive choice |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
25. No. Never. Hell no. |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. So I take it you wouldn't have supported Kucinich prior to 2003 |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Nope. n/t |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
26. Under your particular set of circumstances, I would support him. |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
28. Did you mean an anti-choice candidate? n/t |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
29. I am pro-life |
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stirlingsliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
30. I'm Kinda Funny About Basic Human Rights |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
31. as a vasectomized male, i don't really have an iron in the fire over it... |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #31 |
61. good point |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
32. What does the candidate plan to do about it? Try to crush Roe vs. Wade? Let the law stand? What? |
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scarface2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
34. no..i only support avidly pro death! |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
36. Over a republican? You bet your ass I would. |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
37. Kucinich was a hardcore anti-choicer up until he started running for President |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
40. It depends. Is all the opposition anti-choice too? Chose lesser of 2 evils. |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
45. I would support an anti-war/pro-life candidate over a pro-choice/pro-war one |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #45 |
95. you think the bombs will stop falling a Dem admin |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
46. I am surprised more aren't choosing the 3rd option |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
51. First of all, I object to the term "pro-life" for these people... |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 04:50 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. thank you. they are not pro life. |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:26 PM Response to Reply #51 |
93. Not just in those cases |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 02:58 AM Response to Reply #93 |
102. No disagreement here... |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
52. He doesn't have to be "militant about it." He's a MAN |
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Fierce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
55. Check out Jim Oberstar in the 8th District of Minnesota. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #55 |
67. yes |
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Oeditpus Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
64. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess someone who's 'pro-life' and |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. He's strongly against the war and a Kucinich supporter too. |
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Oeditpus Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. '(H)e has to take a public stand on it' |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 06:12 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. It is pretty bizarre |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. If it was just a "personal view", then he wouldn't support criminalizing abortion. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:07 PM Response to Reply #73 |
86. "If he's anti-choice, then by definition he supports criminalizing abortion." |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:28 PM Response to Reply #86 |
97. Okay, define "anti-choice". |
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DeeDeeNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
68. Absolutely against supporting him. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
72. No. Choice is not negotiable. Opposition to Roe v. Wade is a deal-breaker for me. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
75. If the Republican has the same position, it is a no-brainer. |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
76. Nope..I've always been able to look any Woman in the eye and say... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
79. Not unless he/she swore to uphold individual rights to privacy |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
80. Ordinarily no, but |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
84. could I trust him to support reproductive rights, regardless of his personal beliefs, |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
87. Depends- would he/she appoint judges based on his pro-life beliefs? |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
98. In this situation, since you said he's not militant, yes I would. |
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JustAnotherGen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
99. Yes |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 03:03 AM Response to Original message |
103. no |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 06:40 AM Response to Original message |
104. You would get drastically different answers if Roe v Wade wasn't under assault |
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