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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:01 AM Original message |
Why Are DUer's Attacking A Solution that could Save the World from Global Warming? |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
1. US automakers and the oil industry both HATE such plans |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
39. actually us automakers and oil companies LOVE such plans... |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
2. Unless we can bomb them and take their energy it won't work |
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Pab Sungenis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
3. Because the program WON'T work in America. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:45 AM Response to Reply #3 |
13. How are you going to power 150 million electric cars? Coal? Nuclear? |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 11:38 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Infrastructure can be revised... but politicians will say "it's too expensive, waaaah". |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. Same way you produce the electricity to generate all the hydrogen |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 11:31 AM Response to Reply #13 |
40. and how are you going to provide hydrogen to 150 million cars? |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 11:38 AM Response to Reply #13 |
42. Solar.... |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #3 |
20. I should start doing research in these technologies just to prove naysayers wrong. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 12:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. They said the same things about gasoline-fueled |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
4. Who knows why we do these sort of things....not all of us humans are well. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
5. Some people automatically attack anything new. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
6. they have 20 cars |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
7. Because hydrogen isn't an energy PRODUCTION technology. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. That's True Of Any Combustion Fuel. No? |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #10 |
31. There's a huge difference. Cracking H2 from water is an energy-wasting process... |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 07:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
50. Hydrogen should be considered as a BATTERY, not as FUEL |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
8. because many here are of the mindset that America can never change |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
9. It could save the world from global warming? Untrue! |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:05 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. That Doesn't Make Technical Sense |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. I am referring to the source of power to generate the hydrogen. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. OK |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #11 |
28. Not only does it make tecnical sense, it the normal way of producing hydrogen, right now |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 09:42 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. I Know That's The Normal Way |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. There's plenty of water available for electrolysis |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. LOL. You are thinking of Iceland. Norway uses sewage as a renewable energy source, as well as |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
12. Hydrogen isn't an energy source; it's an energy transport mechanism. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Like Oil, Gas and Biodiesel? Look how Norway is collecting Hydrogen. They do it ONSITE. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 11:47 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Where are the technical details? I want to know more. Where does it come from? |
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SyntaxError (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
16. Hey, I did a search on this and found this in California... |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
19. All we have to do is... |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
23. The biggest problem is automobiles, not what fuels them. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
24. Two reasons: |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #24 |
35. thing about humidity |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
27. The end doesn't justify the means. |
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lpbk2713 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
30. You know this is a message board, don't you? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
33. Because it's a red herring. |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
34. hydrogen isn't a good fuel choice |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
36. Okay. Where are we getting the hydrogen? |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
37. do some actual research on the topic and you'll know why. |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
38. The only thing that can slow down global warming is to physically stop |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 11:33 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. don't blame india and china- |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. No... they don't |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. tell them that. |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Okay... HEY INDIA AND CHINA... STOP WRECKING THE WORLD, K, THKX (nt) |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. they aren't wrecking it- we already did. |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Well that's either dumb or cynical (nt) |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #38 |
49. Wow... that's because the US doesn't emit any greenhouse gases, right? |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. The US is the world's biggest culprit |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
46. The American military machine can't run on hydrogen. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
51. We Need to Embrace All Forms of Alternative Fuels |
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