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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:41 PM
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Huckabee TIES Giuliani NATIONALLY! 18% to 18%, Rudy CRATERS, Corporatist Hillary vs. Populist Huck?
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 12:44 PM by Dems Will Win


Huckabee will likely be first in the next poll that comes out. In Iowa the Huckster is ahead of Willard Romney by 29% to 24%.

12/04/07
Giuliani 18%
Huckabee 18%
McCain 14%
Thompson 13%
Romney 12%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2008__1/daily_presidential_tracking_polling_history

Rudy has spent $31 million so far. Huckster? $1.7 million.

Once Huckabee gets some $$ and rolls Chuck Norris out again, he is going to kick ass all the way to Minneapolis it looks like.

Defeating Corporatist Hillary now becomes crucial if the Dems are to have a chance against Populist Huckabee.

Obama and Populist Change or Edwards and Populist Change could defeat Huckabee. Doubtful that Hillary could, being so corporatist and in love with lobbyists. Plus the press is waiting to drop the "Bill had affairs with married women" story when they feel it could do the most damage to the Dems and sell the most papers.

Hillary is getting less electable, it seems by the hour...

OBAMA/EDWARDS '08!
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:45 PM
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1. I'm not worried. 5 things will derail Huckabee:
His mouth, his religious fanaticism, his record of corruption, the Fair Tax, and Wayne Dumond. I don't think all the dirt's even out there yet. The Repub field is weak, weak, weak. Hillary is not my choice, but she'll beat them all like rented mules.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:49 PM
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5. Hillary is only 1 point ahead of Huckabee right now
She might beat him, but given all the close ties to corporatism, and Huckster going populist, doubtful. Plus the Corpomedia will still support the Repugs over Hil, knowing that Huckabee will end up giving them whatever they want anyhow.

Plus stuff sticks to Clinton, perceived as more negative than the Huckster, while Huck is likeable and stuff won't stick as bad to him.

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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:53 PM
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7. She'll do fine. Huck is a lightweight, and he'll seem a little less likeable
when the shit comes out on him. He's mostly an evangelical and media creation, who's coasting on charm (which I don't see)--why do you think he's shot to the top so suddenly? The media builds up, the media tears down. He's gotten tons of positive press, but just like with Thompson, that won't last forever.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:01 PM
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11. Only 9 weeks to Feb. 5 and it takes a few weeks to get negatives up
So it looks like Huckabee wins the whole enchilada to me. The other Rs hardly have enough $$ to buy ads, altho Romney could always write a check.

IF it's Huck against Hillary, the Dems could be, could be I said, in deep doo doo. At least with Giuliani vs. Hil its unlikable vs. unlikable!
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:06 PM
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13. I don't think Hillary's unlikeable. She's not my choice, but she has a record
of winning people over when they see her up close. She also knows WAY more about foreign policy and military affairs than Hucksterbee. She will come across as a more serious candidate.
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:59 PM
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25. The Clinton vs. Huckabee matchup would be an ugly one for us. Thankfully, it will never happen.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:46 PM
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2. Well, you haven't seen this yet.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:47 PM
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3. Huckabee, like all candidates exept Ron Paul, has pledged to continue the Bush war line
Something we should say over and over again.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:00 PM
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10. You do mean all *repuke* candidates, right?
I seem to recall a fellow by the name of Kucinich who's running as an anti-war Dem...
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:04 PM
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12. Kucinich said he would consider Ron Paul as a VP, so I don't consider him viable anymore
Kucinich made a huge mistake there. Why did he do that?
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:55 PM
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24. I meant all republican candidates yeah - sorry
And all of the Democratic candidates are going to change course.

Bryant
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:48 PM
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4. Oye, they let go of Thompson and latch onto Huckabee as their savior
Huckabee has more negatives than Thompson does, for heaven's sakes.

I know this is hard for some folk to take, but the Democrats are going to kick the crap out of any Republican (at least
in a fair race).
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:53 PM
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6. Has it been fair the last two elections? If Hil is the candidate, the CorpoMedia will make the main
issue be "Did Bill Clinton have affairs after leaving the White House?"

Huckabee could then romp. All he has to do is say he'll withdraw from Iraq and she's then toast in the CorpoMedia goes wild over Bill scenario.

She's damaged goods -- she let him fool around or couldn't stop him.

I could be wrong. Maybe the CorpoMedia will behave this time and play fair....
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:58 PM
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8. research huckster a bit more before you come to any conclusions
there's amazing dirt to be mined. Clinton will beat him easily if that's the match up.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:31 PM
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23. Cali, didn't you predict this?
Maybe my memory is foggy, but I thought you predicted Huckabee might pull out of the woodwork and take the lead?
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:59 PM
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9. The Washington establishment is more afraid of Huckabee than they would be Clinton
For all the wrong reasons, of course.

There's no way in hell Huckabee is getting anywhere near the White House. The GOP likes its religious BS where they can control it,
not where they're controlled by it.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:39 PM
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14. Clinton needs to look very honest if they go head to head.
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 03:40 PM by lvx35
The appeal of Huckabee is that he seems down to earth, honest, with little to hide. Hillary can beat him if she is willing to really be a woman of the working class...But if she's too shiny and bling-bling, there could be problems.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:41 PM
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15. I'm not worried about her, it's Bill that worries me - he's both her greatest asset and her
biggest problem.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:48 PM
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16. How so? Is it his legacy that concerns you? nt
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 04:52 PM
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20. Well besides NAFTA and kicking women off welfare after 5 years,
the major press is supposed to be sitting on a major story of him having affairs, one that led to a marriage breakup in Westchester with a Mrs. Bronfman.

With Hil's unfaves at 50% already, more adultery and the breaking up of Mrs. Bronfman's marriage could turn off enough voters to hand the election to the Repubs. Enough people will remember Monica and not want the Clintons in the WH just for that.

Stupid I know, but there is a small percent that would be swayed by this story if true.

That's what I worry about at night because another GOP President could be the last President we all ever have. This country would be totally screwed and so would the world I fear.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:30 PM
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22. I see. The question is, aside from if he had the affairs or not, would it fly?
I mean wuld the story get to voters? My sense at this point is that Fox news is going to put out scandal after scandal, whether they are true or not. So I just ignore it all. The question is how many voters are on the same page.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 04:47 PM
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17. Huckleberry is NOT a populist, no matter what face he puts forward. NT
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 04:50 PM
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18. Um, if Hillary is the "corporatist" and Huckabee is the "populist", why would the "Corporate media"
be out to get Hillary? :shrug:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 04:52 PM
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19. Fine. Let 'em nominate that Flat-Earth Gomer Pyle lookin' creationist goober.
Oooo! He's got Chuck Norris? I'm skeeeered!
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 04:55 PM
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21. Huckleberry
:kick:
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