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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:34 PM
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How Depressed Is Your State? - MSNBC
Utah, West Virginia and Kentucky were just named the saddest in the country in a new mental health report.

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Cheer up, Utah. That state, with West Virginia and Kentucky close behind, were just named the saddest in the country in a new report by Mental Health America.

The study ranks the 50 states and the District of Columbia based on rates of depression and suicide. Researchers found that states with easier access to mental health resources had lower suicide rates.

"Basically, the story that emerged is that access to care makes a difference," says David Shern, the president and CEO of Mental Health America, a nonprofit organization based in Alexandria, Va., that works to raise awareness about mental illnesses. By expanding mental health care resources, he says, states can improve their population's depression levels.

Rounding out the top 10 saddest states were Rhode Island, Nevada, Oklahoma, Idaho, Missouri, Ohio and Wyoming.

On the bright side, South Dakota is home to some of America’s happiest people, followed by Hawaii, New Jersey, Iowa, Maryland, Minnesota, Louisiana, Illinois, North Dakota and Texas.

What is it about living in Utah that’s so depressing — and what’s so great about South Dakota?

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Link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22087867/

Both funny AND condescending (tone of story)!

:shrug::wtf::shrug:

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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 11:08 PM
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1. 13. Nebraska - they are just upset about their football team.
didn't make it to a bowl game.

They'll be better next year.

:-)
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Freedomofspeech Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 11:11 PM
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2. West Virginia is depressed because...
Pitt kicked their ass last Saturday night.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:30 AM
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22. Pitt finally decides to play some football!
What bowl game will they be in this year? :hi:

I live on the side of a mountain in WV and I am as happy as ever!

(ok - that's not saying much)
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 11:21 PM
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3. Not surprising
The states found to have the highest suicide rates had fewer resources for mental health care, and barriers such as cost made it harder for people in those states to access what resources were available.

Happier states such as South Dakota had more psychiatrists, psychologists and social workers per capita. In the least depressed states, more people had health insurance and received mental health care treatment.

Researchers also found that the more highly educated a state’s population is, the lower its rate of depression.



Better education and better health care = healthier, happier people. But will the penny pinchers listen?

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 11:23 PM
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4. Rhode Island was named in the top 10
it has everything to do with that stupid man who is sitting in the WH, he is making everyone depressed. Time for him to goooooo!!!!
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malakai2 Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 11:44 PM
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5. That's nice
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 11:52 PM by malakai2
I live in South Dakota, and I consider it to be the most depressing state I've ever had the misfortune of inhabiting. Who wants to live in a flat, treeless (minus the Black Hills...I'll get to them shortly) feedlot/wheat field that offers little or no economic future for younger generations, a wasteland where you can spend all summer baking in 110 degree heat under a cloudless sky and all winter shivering in subzero temperatures, huddled behind something, anything, to break the constant 40 mile per hour wind? A place where local and state politics are driven by very vocal, very uncompromising, very socially conservative blocs? A place where the only real economic opportunities for young people are in boom and bust mining, military service, or a highly subsidized ranching lifestyle? A place where two of the major tourist attractions are a drug store and a corn palace?

An aging, anti-social group of hicks and hacks, a small percentage of reasonable people, and an underclass of Lakota who would like their land back, that's who. I've talked to some older people who live here and like it. As a group, these individuals are socially conservative, deeply religious, very much against the idea of effective government on principle, and happy with a very rural lifestyle. South Dakota offers them almost everything they want...they have personal access to politicians like John Thune, Mike Rounds, Bill Napoli, and Roger Hunt, the kind of guys who are the antithesis of liberal...church is a big community thing here, not so much like other places I've lived...and of course, the population density is so low (less than 4 per square mile in several counties) that the only contact many of them have with government is getting subsidy money for their farm and ranch operations whenever weather and market conditions aren't perfect. The reasonable people generally like it because they were born there, or work carried them there, or they don't like it and can't wait to leave (most of the kids under 18). Of course the depression rates on the reservations are pretty high, and the suicide rates therein are astronomical as suicide rates go, but I suppose that might have something to do with Uncle Sam guaranteeing their homeland to them in the Fort Laramie Treaty and then changing his mind as it suited him, forcing those people onto reservations and into social governance systems designed to fail (Pine Ridge...very few in America have been raped like those people).

And then there are the Black Hills. Sacred to several tribes, and once boasting abundant water, game, and fish, these mountains have become a rich white persons' playground. The grizzlies and wolves have been gone for a while. The elk, sheep, and lions hang on in relict populations. Much of the water is no good or gone altogether, with watersheds poisoned or destroyed by extensive mining operations...the leachate continues to contaminate the Missouri River, 150 miles away, as you read this. Retirees and rich people seeking second homes build out in the forest, over time making fire an increasingly less viable way to manage an ecosystem adapted to frequent ground fires, leading to huge overgrowth of small trees, leading to huge insect outbreaks, leading to frequent catastrophic fires. Lead and Deadwood, of course, try to do the Vegas thing with their casinos, and Rapid City lobbies mightily every year to prevent the closure of the big local economic driver, Ellsworth AFB. The Forest Service lands are generally packed with developed inholdings, and ATV use is such that there is no sense of wilderness. Of course, if you'd like to kick a little more dirt on that broken treaty, you can visit and tour Wind Cave (the cave proper), or the four leering faces carved into the granite near Harney Peak-European faces, because it wouldn't do to have Red Cloud's face up there, or better yet, no faces at all. Continuing the broken treaty tour, you can visit the Sturgis Rally and beer bash, with fake bikers hauling their Harleys to within sight of the place before hopping on the bike and riding it into town, and real bikers shooting and stabbing and punching each other in area bars, sometimes at the base of Bear Butte, a place still used (when the roar of engines and drunken partiers isn't too loud) for spiritual purposes by area tribes. I suppose if you like a very Disney version of the Wild West, and can suspend critical thought, you might be able to enjoy what the Hills have to offer, though I suspect that at some point whatever it is that makes you a liberal will kick in and a portion of the experience will nauseate you.

If you hate you some Indians, hate native wildlife and go to great lengths to eradicate it, favor draconian social political positions, dislike the very word "government," and want to be around like-minded people, and you live in South Dakota, you are probably as happy as a pig in shit.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 11:47 PM
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6. That really deserves to be its own thread.
Welcome to DU.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 11:55 PM
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7. Come to New Orleans
Life is hard here, but at least we have fun and have GREAT food and music.



Welcome to DU! :hi:

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malakai2 Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 11:59 PM
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9. Tulane's on my short list
We'll see if I can get in, and if I can afford it.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:16 AM
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12. Forget Tulane!
Try the University of New Orleans (I went to Tulane). Many more better teachers and CHEAP tuition, plus you'll still have access to Tulane's library.

Many in my family attended Tulane, so I can say with first and secondhand experience that it is definitely not worth the money anymore.

Of course, it depends on your field of choice. The Tulane Med School is still great, and the only choice in town for that discipline.
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malakai2 Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:30 AM
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13. How about Tulane Law?
I had heard that the law school was still quite good.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:38 AM
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14. It is, but I don't think it's worth the price of tuition.
I considered doing a law degree there. My preference is Loyola Law School... if you prefer a more 'humanistic' approach and lower tuition (it's not cheap, though). More of their students are progressive, in a political sense. That's not so say Tulane does not have folks like that, but be aware that many of the Tulane Admin are über rightwing corporatists, like their star graduate Newt Gingrich (Ph.D 1971 in PolySci).

http://law.loyno.edu/

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malakai2 Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:46 AM
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16. Ah, thanks
I'll have to give that a closer look tomorrow.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:59 AM
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21. Yeah, don't take my word for it.
I am nuts, and not to be trusted. :D

Nevertheless, DO NOT take loans to go to Tulane. My 2¢.



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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 11:56 PM
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8. That's as colorful of a description of a place I've visited that I'll ever hear.

I don't think you missed a thing. There's nothing like Brookings in the winter.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:06 AM
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11. That sounds TERRIBLE.
Move to Alaska. You're used to the cold already, and people are a lot nicer here.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:57 AM
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20. Making you miserable is what makes them happy.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 03:57 AM
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23. that was a beautiful rant. i love expositions like this.
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 03:57 AM by NuttyFluffers
i did visit south dakota (and north dakota) once. beside the black hills (edit: ooh, how could i forget the badlands!) and mt. rushmore there really wasn't much to see. if i'm remembering correctly it was north dakota that had some beautiful landscapes and fantastic caves. south dakota seemed a little more... i don't know what's the word, rudely exploited? culturally stripped down? it was definitely sad seeing all that poverty and what i attribute to open space loneliness. and those trading posts were ridiculously overpriced!

it had its moments, but i think you nailed it. it could be so much more, but has been sorely mismanaged by the "newcomers" for generations now. such a pity. maybe a few wind turbine industries, subsidized housing for artists, and a few more outdoor festivals could spruce things up. but i just don't think the status quo there would even let such nascent hope survive. kinda selfish elites there.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:02 AM
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10. Alaska is 21
I'm surprised we're not more on the sad side considering our long, cold winters and alcohol issues. I guess the glorious summer is enough to carry most of us through.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:43 AM
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15. What's so great about South Dakota?



They might be happy because nobody goes there and as a consequence nobody fucks with them.




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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:48 AM
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17. Uggh, where's my light box?
This time of year is a real drag. Oh, we weren't talking about my state (of mind?)

:D
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:50 AM
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18. that was a condescendingly written piece
that said, i'm surprised my state (colorado) was as low on the list as it was.

my county has consistently high suicide rates and we're one of the most educated areas in the state and we have very limited mental health resources for those who can't afford it otherwise.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:53 AM
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19. We have Zoloft in happy meals.
My Blue Kentucky Girl


(Johnny Mullins)

You left me for the bright lights of the town
A country boy set out to see the world
Remember when those neon lights shine down
That big old moon shines on your Kentucky girl

I swear I love you by the moon above you
How bright is it shining in your world
Some morning when you wake up all alone
Just come on home to your blue Kentucky girl

Don't wait to bring great riches home to me
I need no diamond rings or fancy pearls
Just bring yourself, you're all I'll ever need
That's good enough for this blue Kentucky girl

I swear I love you by the moon above you
How bright is it shining in your world
Some morning when you wake up all alone
Just come on home to your blue Kentucky girl
Just come on home to your blue Kentucky girl
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