If Jenna Bush were gang raped by 7 men would she deserve 200 lashes?

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/279658

RIYADH–Saudi Arabia is defending a court's decision to sentence a woman who was gang-raped to 200 lashes, saying she was having an extramarital affair in violation of Islamic laws.

The case of the 19-year-old Shiite woman who, along with a male companion, was abducted and raped by seven men has drawn international attention. Canada has denounced the "barbaric" sentence and even the United States, a close ally of the conservative kingdom, offered mild criticism.

It said she and her companion were alone in a dark area outdoors when they were noticed by the men who later raped them.

"We reiterate that judicial rulings in this virtuous country ... are based on God's book and the traditions of his Prophet and that no ruling is issued without being based on evidence," said the statement carried by official news agency SPA.

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The Saudis are not like us, they have different values and laws, and who are we to interfere in another sovereign nation's justice system? The woman, AND HER MALE COMPANION were both raped by 7 men who discovered the two together, an un-virtuous married woman and her boyfriend, 'alone in a dark area'.

Now they want to give the woman victim 6 months in jail and 200 lashes for the crime of being un virtuous enough to be raped, along with her male companion, by 7 men. President bush didn't want to talk about it all because, well, because it would embarrass and possibly offend good king Abdullah, our good, oily friend in the middle east.

bush said he's not too happy about it, and said so to the kindly king. bush also said that he sure wouldn't want one of his own daughters to be gang raped along with her boyfriend by seven men, only to be thrown in jail for 6 months and beaten with a whip 200 times. They don't do that to women rape victims here in America, lucky for Jenna and Barbara, they weren't born in Saudi Arabia.

bush was very careful not to offend Saudi Arabia by suggesting that they were barbarians, because so very much of our oil comes from this quaint and antiquated nation. Now if this woman and her boyfriend were gang raped by seven men in Iran, bush would be demanding that Iran's president intervene and prevent the poor victims from suffering any further over some ridiculous, ancient, religious misogynist laws.

Yesterday's press conference will go down in history as one of the most shameful and embarrassing in all of bush's sickening years, the way he lied so poorly about the reasons for his wars, and the way he chuckled through it all, and the very public way he kissed big fat king Abdullahs shiny, royal ass for all the world to see.

While bush is forcing democracy down the throat of certain middle eastern nations, democracy seems to be utterly forgotten about and given a pass in certain other middle eastern nations. I guess the blazing light of democracy and freedom hasn't gotten as far as Saudi Arabia yet, maybe there's so much black smoke coming from the refineries that they just can't see it.

We can do business with and get along just fine with the nation that would imprison and publicly torture a woman who was gang raped along with her boyfriend by seven men, but we can't tolerate Iran.

The double standard is based on purely economic reasons that we should all be aware of when we fill up our gas tanks. The Saudis sell us oil, Iran has no oil. The Saudis can act like royal assholes all they want, the Iranians cannot.

Thanks God Jenna Bush lives in America, where if she were married and had cheated on her husband, and her and her boyfriend were gang raped by seven men, she wouldn't have to go to jail for 6 months and get 200 lashes for being such a whore. I say God bless America, and God bless the Saudi Royal family too for keeping our gas prices comparatively affordable.

of 9/11ers. :eyes:

We shouldn't fly off the handle and demand democracy in Saudi Arabia, or we could be economically punished for it by the kings and princes and potentates.

Afterall, it was eye rack whom what attacked us, Saddama bin Laden, from a cave in Afghanistan, with box cutters.

and that is against the Saudi's barbaric laws. Fixate on that law, and you have enough of a case to condemn the Saudis. To the Saudis, they are two different issues.

Not that they aren't in the 14th century in their laws, but there's no reason to make the false statement that she was punished for being raped. Just fixate on how any women caught out with a man would be punished the same way (whether the subsequent rape took place or not) and how barbaric that is. Isn't that enough, alone? There must be many cases in Saudi Arabia without that complication, so why aren't they enough to condemn the Saudis for? We wait until the woman also happens to have been raped (the perpetrators were punished for that) before we condemn them for their anti-woman laws? Like it was OK before that?

Study that country and you will find a lot more to condemn. A woman doesn't have to be raped to be punished for all sorts of silly things. It is their culture, but there is a line for tolerance, even among liberals. This country would be a pariah if it didn't have so much damned oil. They still have many laws with extreme penalties to women and girls just for talking to men. We don't need to wait for a case with extreme facts to condemn them for it.

it would not be for anything her Father has done to make the US a better place.

welcome back!..:spank:

who would debase themselves by touching that skank?

he knew about this even less than his claim about when he was told about the NIE report ... that the question at the press conference was the first he had heard of it ...

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Of course, if the lashes don't cause "organ failure", then is it really torturing Jenna?

the financial market fueled by the greedy corporations are what is doing it, and bush and company can do something about that but they won't.

that the Saudis also whip Saudi princes who fly to France to partake in mass orgies with French hookers while their wives go shopping? No? Interesting, because these sorts of cases are reported all the time in Saudi news. Not only is Saudi law barbaric and bigoted towards women, its hypocritical.

Aside from the obvious practical reasons, I look forward to the day when we can tell these people to go screw themselves.

The point is to persecute the women and any men that enable them I assume.

I have been thinkin bout ya. :hug:

I was worried about you sir. Good to see you are still in circulation. Reading now that I'm done saying hello.

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We only encourage the gang-rape of guilty people.

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All of you who posted crap like that should be ashamed of yourselves. So every girl who drank too much in college and (maybe-I don't know Jenna myself)slept around a little deserves to be gang-raped?

To even imply that is sick. It is offensive not only to Jenna Bush, it is offensive to every woman who has ever been raped and had her sex life used against her in court while trying to see her attacker punished.

makes me want to throw up sometimes.

If Jenna shot you in the face she would have to give you 200 lashes for inconveniencing her shot.

after being gang raped and impregnated by seven men.