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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 10:34 AM
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Cretin on "The View" thinks Jesus predated ancient Greeks


Where do such stupid people come from? Why do watch these idiots?
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 10:46 AM
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1. Oh..... Dear...............
That's just amazing. I remember now why I don't watch the tube.....
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 10:48 AM
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2. And her history teachers watch and get upset.
They know they covered it but couldn't change her preconceived notions. *sigh*
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:25 PM
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15. I'd bet the farm she was either home schooled
or church schooled.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 03:34 PM
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31. Nah, I've known kids from public schools were that ignorant.
They may have gone to public schools, but they had such strong preconceived notions from Sunday School, church, and parents that they couldn't let those go and actually listen to their teachers.
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trusty elf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 10:48 AM
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3. Well, how about this?
I once saw some clown preacher man on TV arguing that Jesus made the pyramids! I kid you not. He was going on and on about how marvelous they were and how only Jesus could accomplished such a feat. Then he looked right into the camera and said "Now, you're not going to tell me that CAVEMEN made the pyramids, are you?!"

:rofl:
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:24 PM
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14. Well maybe not
But the Egyptians had the same Sun God mythology from which the Jesus story traces its origins. Horus is Jesus with a big bird head. Maybe that's what he meant, but somehow I doubt it.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 10:52 AM
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4. I have an acquaintance who was astonished when I spoke of the translation
of the Bible. That there may've been translation errors of certain words and phrases.

Yes, this person thought it was all written in English originally and that no words had ever been changed from the original text.


This was a 60 year old so she'd been believing this her whole life (and she's an avid Bush supporter, BTW).
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 11:38 AM
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9. this is what I don't understand
how people can claim to be soooooooo religious and not know basic fundamental facts about their own religion.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:27 PM
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18. Isn't that just nuts?
Same people that think Jesus was a blonde-haired blue-eyed man walking through the Middeast.:D
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 03:35 PM
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32. *snarfgle* Really?
Where's she been? Churches argue over which translation to use all the time.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 03:44 PM
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35. She spends a lot of time
with her head up her ass. Hence her love and devotion to Bush.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 10:53 AM
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5. Isn't this the same one
who, a few months ago, stated she did not know whether or not the earth was flat? Even Elizabeth Hasselwhatshername isn't that dumb.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 10:56 AM
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6. Yep, she's a flat-earth society charter member
Biggest moran I've ever seen on TV - she makes Pat Robertson look like a prophet :eyes:
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 11:16 AM
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7. they had that on the news this morning
We are doomed.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 11:39 AM
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10. bless her heart.
:-)
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:26 PM
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16. No this was a different one
:scared:
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Brian Fearn Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:57 PM
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25. Yes, the very same one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehWv_qlKxSg

Well, golly gee, she just has never thought about whether the world is flat. Hehe.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 11:35 AM
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8. Don't you understand??
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 11:36 AM by kestrel91316
The bible is a complete and unerring history of everything that ever happened or existed on earth through the time of the Apostles. If it's not in the bible, it didn't happen or doesn't exist.

All other "knowledge" and "history" is of the devil and meant to lead us astray.

Now do you understand? This woman is probably a Dominionist. Look for more of them to start coming out of the woodwork.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 11:40 AM
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11. Meredith made the right choice to get out of there.




It probably occurred to her you are judged by the company you keep.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:11 PM
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12. On the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God
Therefore...

:eyes:
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:55 PM
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23. I didn't see your post...I quote this passage below. Sorry. n/t
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:13 PM
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13. fucking morons are a dime a dozen
why they still get on television is beyond me

nuh uh! It's Jesus first, bitches!
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:26 PM
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17. Thank you for remeinding me why I've never watched that show.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:27 PM
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19. Why do they allow her to speak? WHY?
Is it because she allows the others to go home and say "at least I'm not as stupid as you-know-who"
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:39 PM
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20. Either totally thick or very badly taught...
Children often get very confused about the order of events of history and prehistory - "Did Queen Victoria have any pet dinosaurs?" - but you'd have thought an adult would have got it straight. For one thing, doesn't the term 'B.C.' mean anything to her?
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:42 PM
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21. Why do they even have someone that stupid on TV?
or in the White House for that matter!
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:54 PM
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22. Well, many evangelical Christians do believe that Jesus predates the universe
"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God." Gospel of John. The "Word" here, of course, is Jesus.

I'm not defending the woman who claims Jesus predates the Greeks. It's just that I think Whoopie and the rest are arguing historical facts...the Greeks obviously predated Jesus and Christianity. However, the Christian woman is arguing--albeit unconsciously--a theology (but not very well). She also seems ignorant about when Christians were historically thrown to the lions and by whom.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:56 PM
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29. I don't think that she's arguing that Jesus as God predates the ancient Greeks
I think she's claiming that Jesus, the possibly historical person predated the ancient Greeks. As someone said, this is a mistake that a seven year old would make, not an adult....
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 04:16 PM
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40. I can't argue with you there, but I still wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt n/t
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 03:36 PM
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33. Honestly, I think she mixed up the Romans and the Greeks.
And then thought the Romans were new when Jesus started His ministry. The Christmas story talks about the need for a census, but she probably doesn't get that it was a Roman census--and not by the first Roman emperor, either.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:55 PM
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24. A prime example of the 29% functional moron base. nt
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:58 PM
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26. How can this person even be given a forum
The only thing good that comes from this is she is a perfect poster child for the ignorant in our society. I say keep her and let her keep sounding ridiculous.
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bmbmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:48 PM
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27. Cretin? Hardly.
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 01:48 PM by bmbmd
She is merely reflecting the Gnostic interpretation of Melchizedek as the precursor to Jesus. I never knew that she was an Old Testament scholar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melchizedek
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:52 PM
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28. sigh. This is a popular show, right?
They were all talking at once, but that message came through: nothing predated the Christians.

Okay. So God created the earth ... I dunno ... a few thousand years ago. Even if you buy into that, does this person think that Adam and Eve were Christians? How the hell is that possible?

damn.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:06 PM
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30. Born before all time.....


I think thats what she was getting at.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 03:41 PM
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34. *headesk*
THE FAIL! IT BURNSES US!!
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jpljr77 Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 03:50 PM
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36. Dang, that's bad. And to think I love her on 30 Rock.
She plays Tracy Jordan's wife for any that watch the show. She's not a regular, but when she's on, it's very funny.

Now I'm not so sure I'll be able to laugh at her.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 03:55 PM
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37. I think I know why Jesus hasn't come back yet.
He's embarrassed by clowns like this who claim to be His disciples. :(
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 03:57 PM
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38. Forget the Greeks. Doesn't she realize that Jesus was a nice Jewish boy?
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 04:01 PM
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39. Wow. Wait until she finds out about Zoroaster. LMAO! n/t
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 04:17 PM
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41. I am almost speechless over that woman's stupidity
"Jesus came first." "No, they had Christians then, they fed them to the lions." Oy.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 04:23 PM
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42. John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

Usually interpreted as a reference to the eternal Christ. But somehow I don't think that's what the idiot on The View was referring to.

Bake
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