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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:33 PM
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Poll question: Any thoughts on TIME's Person of the Year?
Edited on Fri Dec-07-07 12:02 AM by Old Crusoe
Nine options below, plus one slot for OTHER.

Phil Specter? Angela Jolie?

Anna Nicole Smith? polar bears?

Bill Moyers? Jon Stewart?
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:35 PM
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1. OK...I'm ready to accept flames for this, but...
...my choice is Steve Jobs.

because the iPhone is pretty freaking cool.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:37 PM
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2. It is. Very valid pick.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:22 PM
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67. Kim Commando who does a talk show about computers is getting rid of hers
because she can't get phone service in the middle of Phoenix.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:37 PM
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3. Al's won everything else
My second choice would be Keith Olbermann. But Al's gonna walk away with it.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:43 PM
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4. This is not a popularity contest. Greatest impact on world news. My choice is ....
Edited on Thu Dec-06-07 11:44 PM by wake.up.america
George W. Bush.

Can't stand the guy, but he sure has stirred things up.

Hopefully, no more cop outs by Time with their selection in order not to offend anyone.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:09 AM
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24. Agree (nt)
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:24 AM
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35. Yep
people think this is some sort of honor - it's not.

Hitler was Man of the Year. It's all about who has an impact, not who's most admired.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 02:35 AM
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47. I think they will give to Albert Gore, An issue with Al's face would sell better.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 05:23 PM
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58. I think that's got
a high probability of happening.
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liberalsoldier5 Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:44 PM
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5. Petreaus or Gore.
I'd put money on it.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:46 PM
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6. Could be Petreaus, especially if the media generally want to bolster
Bush's "legacy." Although a very slight improvement in conditions in Iraq still doesn't counter the extensive failures.

Gore, I think, has the better chance.
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I work for workers Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 06:29 PM
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59. Agreed. Petraeus or Gore are the only real choices.
It will be an honor to have them as part of my exclusive club. I won Man of the Year last year.
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liskddksil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:46 PM
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7. Gustavo Dudamel
Would be an awesome choice as he is really shaking up the classical music world, with his vibrant energy on the podium.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:48 PM
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8. Hi, liskddksil. You are exacty right. He's the one figure in the
world right now that every single person wants to sleep with.

And understandably so.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:48 PM
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9. Fidel Castro




Just because he seems to be one hell of a tough survivor.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:49 PM
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10. Not a bad choice. Castro and Cuba. Such a small island but it has
cast a long shadow over U.S. policy and history.

And Fidel himself is one tough customer.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:54 PM
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11. I think that Benazir Bhutto should be in the running
But the more I think about it, Gore has been the most consistent newsmaker throughout the year.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:56 PM
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12. I considered Bhutto but thought her impact was reactive to Musharraf.
On the other hand, I knew when I listed Gore that he'd get a warm response on DU.

I have a hard time forging polls where people have to juggle options.

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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:01 AM
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13. Person of the Year doesn't mean anything anymore
Americans are just too simple-minded for anything but a popularity contest.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:03 AM
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14. Bushler
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:07 AM
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16. God that creeps me out.
A vacuous monkey dressed in a dead megalomaniac's clothes.

All the Lunesta in the world...
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:04 AM
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21. or

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:09 AM
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23. There he is, playing tin-horn demogogue. In most ways, O'Reilly took the
coward's way into a career. He could have gradually asserted himself in the way Jack Cafferty has done for CNN, but the FOX mudslinger path was quicker, easier, and promised greater glory at a faster rate.

My problem with the man in your image there is not that he's unintelligent but that his intelligence is in the service of he dark side of my country.

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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:04 AM
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15. Joe Klein
They love him so.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:09 AM
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17. I like it that Gustavo Dudamel is running second to Al Gore.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:46 AM
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18. Al Gore. nt
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:00 AM
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19. I went with 'Other' ...
Edited on Fri Dec-07-07 01:01 AM by NanceGreggs
The "Person of the Year", IMHO, should be the generic "American Truth-Teller" - a category which includes bloggers, whistle-blowers, Plame/Wilson, Stewart/Colbert, Michael Moore, etc. - all of those who have, in their own way, attempted to bring the real news to the American public despite threats, criticism and marginalization by the mainstream media and the political powers-that-be.

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:04 AM
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20. Nance, that's as resourceful as it is commendable.
It's those truth-tellers, notorious or anonymous, that push history into change.

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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:10 AM
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25. And in a time when change is our only hope of survival ...
... those who push us in that direction should be recognized for their contributions.


But that's just MHO ...
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:15 AM
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30. A humble opinion is but Cinderella before the wand's first wave.
The floor gets scrubbed AND the slipper fits.

You're awesome, lady.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:11 PM
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62. Great choice Nance, if only we could trust Time to pick the truth-tellers.
Edited on Fri Dec-07-07 09:12 PM by MN Against Bush
Sadly enough I worry that if they actually decided to honor your choice they would feel the need to "balance" it by including people like Ann Coulter and George Bush. I don't exactly have much faith in Time when it comes to having good judgment in deciding who a truth-teller is.

If I were to make a list of truth-tellers though you would certainly be near the top of it. That is why I nominate NanceGreggs as DU's Person of the Year.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:07 AM
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22. Actually I think Hugo Chavez qualifies
However, as depicted upthread, Americans think it is actually a popularity contest.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:13 AM
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27. If we did have a popularity contest, I think I'd vote for Anna Nicole Smith.
You just can't beat that story for sheer lurid garbage.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:15 AM
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29. Actually her story tells the story of the American dream
and the pitfalls therein.
I think it is appropriate.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:28 AM
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39. A case could be made. I see what you mean. The paternity squabble was
really a show-stopper. Larry King doing hour-long exposes into whose little spermies made it north.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:11 AM
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26. Ohhh I get to choose another...How about Valerie Plame?
Ahmadinejad? Brown? Putin?

Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie for their contribution to NOLA?

But, depicting the pulse of most Americans--the one most appropriate would be Brittney Spears.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:18 AM
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31. I hope I didn't dilute the Plame option by throwing in her husband in the
poll.

It felt bad to leave him out because he was so great in the press blasting Rove.

Plame was sublime at that hearing, I thought.

Every time I run through the checkout line at the grocery I see Brittney's face on the gossip rags.

We need a country where more people know who Valerie Plame is than know who Brittney Spears is.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:14 AM
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28. It's not too late for it to be
John Conyers.

He just needs to do something......
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:19 AM
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32. Yes. As far as I'm concerned, he could be our next Attorney General.
I'd feel a whole lot better then than I do now.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:23 AM
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34. How sweeeeeet
that would be !!

We'd never get that from Hillary, sadly.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:26 AM
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38. Too soon to say, but if the HClinton polling continues to fall as it has these
past couple weeks, I believe one of the reasons will be because she didn't campaign from the ground up, but from the Candidate down.

By close degree, the other candidates are grassroots-up campaigns. Not Senator Clinton's. I think you're right. She'd stick with one of the establishmentarian options.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:22 AM
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33. How about Britney? (In honor of motherhood and safe-driving.)
:puke:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:24 AM
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36. LOL! After 8 years of Bush, imagine what people in other countries would
say if they put Brittney Spears on TIME's cover for Person of the Year?
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morgan2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:25 AM
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37. Nancy Pelosi or possibly 'congress'
for refusing to Impeach. The biggest story of the year.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:34 AM
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40. Barbara Boxer. I watched the Energy and Commerce hearing.
She's the Chair and INHOFE is the ranking member and she dealt with him so beautifully.

I would have had to TERMINATE him and on camera. I would be in a special jail by now. But Boxer just deals with whatever comes up, every time.

In fact, whatever award is pending, Barbara should get it. :)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:37 AM
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41. I appreciate your throwing into this thread, sfexpat2000 and I also
appreciate your excellent choice.

Barbara Boxer is one of those national treasures. I was really sweating out her future during the early going of the Boxer-Fong race, and then when things turned sour for Fong over that check to the hate group, Boxer sailed to victory and she hasn't looked back since.

The change on that committee between that clueless yahoo from Oklahoma and Senator Boxer is HUGE.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:47 AM
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44. I notice he's not liking it.
:evilgrin:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:51 AM
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45. LOL! Barbara Boxer makes ol' Jim soooooooooooo mad!
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Ryano42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:38 AM
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42. Only One Choice...Keith Olbermann
TRUTH TO POWER!!!
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:40 AM
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43. GORE
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 02:10 AM
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46. At least, they won't have Hitler again.
They had him on the cover a few weeks ago. (Along with Gandhi).
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 02:58 AM
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48. Gore. n/t
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 04:34 AM
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49. Can't believe Hillary hasn't made this list yet.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 07:31 AM
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50. If you choose her for your OTHER pick, then she's
in the mix, but I purposely avoided including announced presidential candidates.

Of our announced 8 candidates, I'm not seeing where she deserves mention over the other 7 to date. That could change in Iowa on January 3, 2008, but the calendar year at hand is 2007.

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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 11:24 AM
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57. I REALLY hope you forgot the SARCASM notation.
What has she done this year? Vote for Kyl-Liebermann? Watched as her campaign IMPLODED?
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:00 PM
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60. Like her or not, (and I don't) she made a LOT of news.
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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 07:31 AM
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51. Other
I heard an interview with Stephen King and he stunned the interviewer by saying that Lindsay Lohan and Britney Spears should be the Time people of the year since they have monopolized the news this year. Yes he was being sarcastic but it would be truthful for Time to do it.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:14 PM
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65. I agree with Uncle Stevie: w/ the amount of news time spent on them, it has to be Brit, Linds, et al
The cover could say, "Persons of the Year: Celebrity Rehabbers"

Or, it could be Hannah Montanna, or the cast of High School Musical II. THEY'RE EVERYWHERE.

Or, "The Candidate" -- for it not even being a presidential election year, it's been non-stop blah blah blah blah ok gotta go vote on something blah blah blah all year LONG!
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 08:04 AM
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52. Al Gore - no doubt about it.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 08:05 AM
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53. It's clearly Gore, but the Bushie faction will never allow it. It's that simple.
Whatever the mechanism may turn out ot be, fear of Mighty Wurlitzreing or job loss for standing up for such a "liberal bias" (here's a really clear case where reality does indeed seem to have a liberal bias, which is why the Bushie Rewriting Reality Industry is booming so very much)

Gore is the logical and correct choice for the single American that has had the most profound effect on our nation and world in terms of trenedously raising awareess of environemntal issues and restoring them to prominence.

Well, that and the growing body of hard data which becomes more irrefutable by the minute.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:39 AM
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54. While Gore appears to hold a commanding lead, the real race is for
second place -- currently tied among Hugo Chavez, the New England Patriots, and my personal favorite, Gustavo Dudamel.

I hold out hope that the Dudamel faction here at DU will come poring forth in the 11th hour to push him over the top.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 11:11 AM
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55. Wide Stance Republicans
They gave us the hard-hitting journalistic fodder even the solicitous media couldn't ignore -- tawdry spectacle. They cracked the GOP's teflon bubble and now there's a smidge of hope the world can be a better place tomorrow.
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SharkSquid Donating Member (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 11:14 AM
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56. Musharraff or Putin
In the same sense as Hitler.

Or even Ahmadinejad.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:08 PM
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61. It should be Al Gore, but I think it will be Hannah Montana
She was in the new alla time this past year. Miley Cyrus ... ubiquitous.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:11 PM
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63. LOL - probably truish.
Sad, ain't it?
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TheUniverse Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:14 PM
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64. I'd probably select Putin
I'm not saying Putin is any good, infact he makes a lousy president who doesn't care about human rights. But the time magazine poll is about who has had the biggest effect, and not the best person. There is no denying putin has had a huge effect on Russia, and even the world, even if it wasn't a very good effect.

Al Gore is trying really hard to get the message of global warming out, but has he been effective? I dont know yet.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:17 PM
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66. When are they gonna name Fossil Fuels the Thing of the Year?
Cuz honest to GOD, fossil fuels/natural resources (both the excess and lack of them) cause more messed-up stuff in this country and around the world (wars, natural disasters, etc.) Iraq War, global warming, species die-off, drought crippling Atlanta, wildfires and cyclones, aieeeee!
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:27 PM
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68. It should be Bush because he has had more impacts on Global Warming than Gore
and Bush has vetoed everything the Democrats have tried to put through. He has broken more laws than anyone can keep count of.

Man of the year is usually based on who is impacting the world the most and that would be Bush even though everything the does is impacting the world in a negative way with colossal impacts.
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ralbertson Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 11:57 AM
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69. Dude, your fake "poll" is so *blatantly* trolling for the pro-polar-bear constituency....
Edited on Sat Dec-08-07 11:59 AM by ralbertson


(I mean, I'm just sayin', is all...)
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 12:11 PM
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70. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejed. For better or worse, he played
the bush administration for suckers and won.
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