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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:42 PM Original message |
Would someone please explain how we're going to get 2/3 of the Senate to vote to convict? |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. Three answers |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. It does matter |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #5 |
24. "Investigations are ongoing " actually investigations are going nowhere. |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
44. Still doesn't get us 66 votes |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
56. There have been two Presidents Impeached in our history |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. I hate to split hairs, but the Constitution does not compell Congress to impeach. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. Why do we have to convict? |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. See post #5 |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. SIMPLE: Too many felonies to not convict. Building a case is required. Once that is done |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Faith based reasoning |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
4. Once the crimes are outlined, it will be too politically unpopular not to convict |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Investigations are going on now |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
64. We can't enforce those investigations because of "executive privilege" |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
6. Well, you might start by showing the video of children being raped at Abu Ghraib... |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Nothing preventing that from being shown now |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. The tapes were ordered to be released after an ACLU lawsuit... |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. It's pretty clear that investigations are ongoing |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
11. January 22, 2008, appoint a special prosecutor..charge them all THEN |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. I think that's exactly the path to take |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
12. Put two million angry citizens in the streets of D.C. during the proceedings. |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. That sure stopped the Iraq War! |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
13. Look at Nixon |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. "The Republicans would ultimately force them to leave!" |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Yeah, Nixon resigned... |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
17. Call me crazy, but isn't there an investigation first? |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. There are investigations going on now |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. They aren't impeachment investigations |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. exactly. that's what I thought... |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Yes. Impeachment is a process |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #37 |
58. Thanks for the clarification. :) nt |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
47. There are some differences. Not enough to get us 66 votes though |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. How can anyone say how many votes it'll get or not |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Not really, but keep repeating that, it is amusing. |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
48. And that makes you think impeachment will succeed? |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. No it makes your argument concerning ongoing investiations false. |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. We're just going to have to disagree here then |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
22. innocent until found guilty is the american way of law |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. Prosecutors don't send cases to trial they don't feel they can win |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. I totally disagree with you |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. We didn't impeach Reagan for Iran Contra |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. whatever, two wrongs make a right everyone knows that, huh |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. We still don't have 66 votes |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
23. Have hearings, put it in front of the public |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #23 |
34. More faith based reasoning |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
66. Its Democracy, its the Constitution, its the process |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
25. Consider that their sole loyalty is to their reelection... |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. I do think otherwise |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #39 |
60. I think we're fairly close, but a few counterpoints... |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. I think we are pretty close on several of these points |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. I think re executive privilege... |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
27. How will we get ANY votes to convict... |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
30. 66 votes. nt. |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. 51 + 15 right? |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #33 |
49. correct. |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. No no no |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. And I pointed out that Nixon started out the same way. nt. |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. If people could point to any sort of evidence that the current crop of republicans |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
35. 70 percent of the Republican Senators drop dead of a heart attack? |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
36. By impeaching the bastards and putting them on trial. nt |
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China_cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
38. How can you possibly get Joe Lieberman + 15 other republicans to vote to convict? |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. LOL - Well, then you might have a chance |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
42. But once we raise awareness, then awareness will be raised! And once that happens, |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
45. These historical crimes need to go on record |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. How is the Constitution defended if we can't convict them? |
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lame54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
46. An Impeachment investigation will bring out there crimes and... |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. And we're just supposed to take this on faith? |
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