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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:25 PM
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Mukasey ‘undecided’ on whether waterboarding = torture
This guy must be stonewalling. He didn't have enough time to think about it while waiting for confirmation?

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/mukasey-%e2%80%98undecided%e2%80%99-on-whether-waterboarding-torture/

Mukasey ‘undecided’ on whether waterboarding = torture.

In his first public statements regarding the CIA’s destruction of the torture tapes, Attorney General Michael Mukasey said today he “refused to be rushed into deciding whether he considers waterboarding a form of torture. … Mukasey said he has not yet concluded a review of Justice Department memos to determine whether waterboarding amounts to torture — which would deem it illegal.” During his confirmation hearing, Mukasey refused to call waterboarding torture.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:28 PM
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1. This is what was bound to happen
When we didn't pin him down to an answer during the confirmation.
My guess is that he won't have an answer one way or the other until January 2009.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:28 PM
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2. Well, we certainly don't want to rush into anything
I mean, do we really want the Attorney General of the United States making rash decisions about whether we should obey the Constitution and our treaty obligations. Who knows where that sort of reckless law-abiding conduct would get us?
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:33 PM
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3. You know what's really confusing? Red hot pokers thru the eyeball. Is it torture or isn't it?
What about when you saw someone's feet off, then surgically reattach their ankles to the wrong legs. Assuming you use anaesthetic, and you get the legs back on quickly enough--is it really toture?
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:37 PM
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4. Perhaps He Should Try It and Then Decide
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:39 PM
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5. Well - the president IS supposed to be the leader right?
Let's waterboard him, and find out what role the oil barons had to do with the decision to invade Iraq...........and then after the ordeal is over, we can find out if he still thinks it is not torture!

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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:40 PM
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6. There is no "decision" to be made. It's torture, and the law has regarded it so for a long time. nm
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:41 PM
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7. Who gives a fuck what he thinks? Is he also going to undo international law?
Edited on Tue Dec-11-07 04:45 PM by Solly Mack
International law that the US IS obligated to follow

Fucking cowards trying to hide behind what some corrupt Bush stooge says is or isn't torture.

I can just hear the cowards now...but the DOJ says it's legal and we must respect the rule of law.

I am livid.

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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:48 PM
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8. I am reminded of reading once that Mengele believed he
was engaging in "science" when he was putting people through vivisection to observe how the body works under the "stress of pain". He also believed he was engaging in "science" when he would inflict enormous amounts of pain on one twin, to see if the other, not being under the infliction of said pain could fell a level of pain.

No matter how one looks at it, torture is torture, and is always implemented by someone who does not have to undergo the procedure.

bush, and his sadistic minions would do well to recall what his christian ethics tell them, "do unto others as you would have them do unto you". Just wondering if these clowns ever think of that?
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