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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 07:01 PM
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Hillary using right wing talking points--- against her Dem opponents?
Edited on Mon Feb-19-07 07:02 PM by trumad
If so--- then it's bullshit!

Stop the Fearmongering

by Matt Stoller, Mon Feb 19, 2007 at 04:54:47 PM EST
Bumped -- Jonathan

If Cillizza quoted Clinton accurately, then we've got a problem.

Clinton also sought to draw a contrast with some of her Democratic rivals on the issue of terrorism. "Some people may be running who may tell you that we don't face a real threat from terrorism," she said. "I am not one of those."

Who exactly? I'd like to hear a reporter ask her just who she means.
http://mydd.com/story/2007/2/19/16148/5292
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 07:05 PM
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1. That's a two-may sentence.
Lots of insulation there.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 08:09 PM
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11. besides- it is being used "against" the media - not her Dem opponents n/t
n/t
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 07:11 PM
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2. She is giving me incentive to campaign against her at all costs!
The only terrorism we face is the Bush regime and if she chooses to join them
then she will have to face the music like he is now.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 07:13 PM
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3. You do that, sweetie.
In the general election as well?
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 07:18 PM
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4. The OP linked to no credible article. Some bozo puts quotation
marks on a sentence and hysteria breaks out

The foolishness of fools is amazing

:spank: :spank: :spank:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 07:22 PM
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5. Thanks for the lesson. Always check those links.
Don't know why I didn't think someone might do something like that, but I didn't think they would.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 07:31 PM
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7. Go on patrice
tell me more.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 07:30 PM
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6. Oh bullshit
The Op is from Atrios via Matt Stoller.

These two are extremely credible.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 07:32 PM
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8. More from Stoller.
UPDATE: I asked Peter Daou about this, and he tells me that her quote is accurate. He is not sure about the context, and says that Clinton could have been referring to Republican candidates. He promises to get back to us tonight or tomorrow.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 05:06 PM
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22. Daou's on Clinton's payroll, of course
He's her perma-blogger. He used to be independent, at Salon, but since summer he's been on payroll blogging for her full-time, but nobody knows where, since he doesn't use his name. Just a heads up to be aware of who you might be talking to in the dark dungeons of the internets.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 05:08 PM
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24. 31 minutes into the video, she says it.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/2/19/20469/5125
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 05:11 PM
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29. oh I believe you
I'm just saying, if it comes from Daou, it's got a pro-Hillary spin, in case you didn't know.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 10:07 PM
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13. "Oh bullshit".....Apparently you are a big fan of the BS,
since you served up a heaping steaming pile here

Let's not forget the fact that you use the Faux News technique

of asking a seemingly innocuous question.

Now THAT is some major bullshit, and anyone with half a brain, knows exactly where you are coming from


:hangover: :freak: :hurts: :thumbsdown: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring:
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 04:50 PM
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19. So you are saying that the respected Peter Daou is lying?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 05:08 PM
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25. I think "respected" is a dated term to use WRT Daou
You might say, the "once-respected" Peter Daou.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 05:09 PM
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27. All right---fuck Daou... how about the video?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 05:11 PM
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30. hey, I'm on your side
I just think Daou is a sell-out shill.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 05:14 PM
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31. cool...
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 07:32 PM
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9. She said it....
UPDATE: I asked Peter Daou about this, and he tells me that her quote is accurate. He is not sure about the context, and says that Clinton could have been referring to Republican candidates. He promises to get back to us tonight or tomorrow.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 08:11 PM
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12. I read it as a response to the media/GOP attacks - not against other Dems n/t
n/t
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 04:53 PM
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20. DD did the same with an article on Rahm Emanuel
loose quotes, lot's of innuendo. There's plenty to rail against without accusing Clinton of spouting republicanisms. One of the best things about her is her ability to get the republicans all lathered.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 10:11 PM
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14. We'd have a LOT less
terrorists in the world if the bushits and their enablers hadn't of fucking bombed Iraq and keep on sending those Soldiers into die and getting their limbs blown off.

Big ol' tough shillary.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 11:39 PM
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15. "shillary"?????
Oh so original....zitsiiii
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:32 PM
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17. Yeah, shillary. You don't like
it, tough shit.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 07:38 PM
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10. I'm not a Clinton fan, but criticizing an opponent on security issues isn't a right wing talking pt
I don't even happen to agree with her in this case, but that doesn't make her a closet Dino. This nomination election will go smoother if we learn to can the hysteria.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:14 PM
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16. If You're Going To Try And Slam Hillary, At Least Attempt To Use A Real Source.
This was a pretty weak effort.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 04:50 PM
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18. Peter Daou is a real source
and I knew that when I posted this, the mentally challenged would come rushing in with their knee-jerk observations. What took you so long?
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 05:08 PM
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26. Hey how about a video? 30 minutes in---oh and guess who the source is?
It's fucking Hillary...

http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/2/19/20469/5125
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 04:59 PM
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21. I read the quotes
and thought it was McCain, not Clinton.

She's not even going to pretend to run as a Democrat, is she?
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 05:07 PM
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23. Here's the video--- it's 31 minutes in...she said it.
Of course those up above will still deny she said it.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/2/19/20469/5125
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 05:10 PM
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28. nope - she thinks we are already in her pocket
she's busy courting Republicans. As you can see by the responses in this thread, it's working.
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