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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:38 PM
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Please edify me; why did the oil companies get tax breaks today?
I don't know much about this energy bill (apart from that ethanol is not much of a substitute, I've used fluorescent bulbs and other green items before it became a fad to do so), but with the big profits the oil companies are making, I honestly do not understand why they need more breaks and benefits.

Please respond with seriousness. I honestly don't know.

Thank you. :)
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:39 PM
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1. We have the best government can buy
Contributions to congresscritters' campaigns are 'legal' bribes and that is how this country is run.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:41 PM
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2. Because They Give Huge Campaign Contributions
Think about it. How much does air time cost in small states and small congressional districts? Peanuts. A million here and a million there, and voila! you own congress.

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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:58 PM
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10. Exactly. It's a bribe, but not called such. (NT)
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:44 PM
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3. Mary Landrieu
for starters.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:45 PM
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4. Because the override failed by one vote. Thank you, Mary Landrieu, only Dem to vote against.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:52 PM
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7. BTW, is Mary protecting her NOLA constituents?
Has she bothered to try to stop the razing of homes down there?
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Captain Angry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:47 PM
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5. Several reasons.

Some thoughts:

1: The oil industry is an employer.
2: The oil industry is a strategic supplier.
3: Oil and its derivatives are used in agriculture and synthetics.
4: Many oil companies around the world are state owned and subsidized.

For these reasons, some people think that oil companies need help. That cutting their taxes will encourage growth and new technology, further employment, and maintain the smooth flow of oil to the war machine.

This is our form of subsidization.

This is also probably our way of keeping them as tax payers at all. I would not be surprised if these companies had floated the idea of moving their HQ to Dubai, Shanghai, or London to capitalize on the currency exchange issues. If they leave, we can't tax them, and they kill jobs here.


It sucks.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:51 PM
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6. These companies are making record profits and already get tax breaks
any legislator who thinks oil companies need another tax cut has to be the most ignorant person on earth. Or incredibly corrupt. Or both.

The oil companies must be into negative tax brackets by now, with the IRS sending them checks every month instead of collecting taxes.
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Captain Angry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:55 PM
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9. I agree.

The IRS doesn't send them their check though, they get their subsidies from ethanol sales.

If they weren't the huge force they are, other major industries might wonder how big oil is able to skirt taxation when they can't.

I still think it's a threat to keep them in the country. If things get ugly next year economically speaking, and the "wrong" candidate for big business isn't looking like they'll get into office, I bet we see the flight of billions of dollars and thousands of jobs as companies relocate.

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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:55 PM
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8. The Republican View: They provide a public service in supply fuel and should not be taxed at all.
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:37 PM
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11. oil subsidy's
It's not just that they gave the money to big oil again, they also stripped the bill of money for renewables. I can only hope that the Dodd stand up shows the rest what can be done.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:12 PM
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12. You've shot my opinion of the oil situation down
before so I'll digress on this.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:25 PM
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13. It's Christmas and they've been good all year.
That's the narrative according to Cheney.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:26 PM
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14. Because we're in charge.
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