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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:51 PM
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Bush Claims ‘We Have Fabulous Health Care’ Compared To ‘Other Systems Around The World’
During a Q & A following his speech on the economy in Fredericksburg, VA today, President Bush declared that “we have fabulous health care in America“:

I’m going to tell you something — we have fabulous health care in America, just so you know. I think it’s very important — before people start griping about the health care system here — and of course there’s always grounds for complaint — just to compare it with other systems around the world.

Bush may not be aware, but U.S. health care has already been systematically compared to other systems around the world. In many cases, the results are not good for Americans.

In 2002, the U.S. spent more on health care per person than other industrial countries like Britain, Canada, France, and Germany. But unlike those countries, which have universal health care systems, there are roughly 47 million Americans who lack health coverage.

In 2000, the World Health Organization (WHO) did a comparative assessment of the health systems of 191 countries. The WHO found that in terms of the five measured performance indicators, the U.S. ranked 37th:

The U. S. health system spends a higher portion of its gross domestic product than any other country but ranks 37 out of 191 countries according to its performance, the report finds. The United Kingdom, which spends just six percent of gross domestic product (GDP) on health services, ranks 18th . Several small countries — San Marino, Andorra, Malta and Singapore are rated close behind second- placed Italy.

In his recent documentary, SiCKO, Michael Moore illustrated clearly how U.S. health care ranked far behind much of the industrial world. Watch a clip:

Link: http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/bush-compare-health-care/
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:52 PM
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1. How the hell would HE know?. . . . . . . . . . n/t
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:54 PM
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2. Fabulous?
Did he really say fabulous?

Is that code or something?

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:56 PM
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4. He uses that word a lot. ???
:shrug:
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:10 PM
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12. Yeah. Everything is fabulous with this shithead.
:eyes:
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:10 PM
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13. Honey, yes he does *snap* n/t
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:24 PM
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17. ....
:rofl: You caught that too?
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:46 PM
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20. I don't know what you're talking about.. (pic)
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:21 PM
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23. ...
:evilgrin:
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 08:59 PM
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39. The word fabulous is based on the Latin fabula, or fable
In other words, Bush is telling us that the health care system is a myth or legend and purely imaginary but not real. According to the American Heritage, the word fable:


1. almost impossible to believe; incredible.
2. Informal. exceptionally good or unusual; marvelous; superb: a fabulous bargain; a fabulous new house.
3. told about in fables; purely imaginary: the fabulous exploits of Hercules.
4. known about only through myths or legends.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:54 PM
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3. Arrogant condescending a$$hole who has never in his whole miserable life had to worry
about health care or putting food on his family or any other necessity of life! He sickens me! Is it Jan '09 yet? Please Please make him go away!
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:58 PM
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5. Hell. His administration doesn't even give the military "fabulous" healthcare.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:01 PM
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7. The Gitmo detainees get "fabulous" health care. Unfortunately they also have no recourse for their
freedom. "catch 22"?
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:00 PM
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6. ....
:wtf: is he talking about?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:35 PM
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25. He means it's better than Iraq's .
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:02 PM
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8. As in 'fabled"?
Per the dictionary - "having no real existence; fictitious: a fabled chest of gold."
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:05 PM
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9. I want what he's smoking. nt
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:06 PM
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10. Does the phrase "out of touch" occur to anyone else?
:eyes:

He blows my mind sometimes with his complete cluelessness.

I wish he would have to show up at a DC emergency room without any ID, insurance or secret service types....THEN he
might get an idea of what he's talking about.


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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:08 PM
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11. Fabulous IF you can afford it. I had to let my medical insurance lapse
about three years ago - even with the $5000 deductible and then 20% co-pay, I had payments of nearly $2000 every three months. That was for ONE person, age 47 at the time. Group plans are supposed to be great. They are, IF you are rich.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:11 PM
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14. Some of us have worse healthcare than Lapplanders or Masai Tribesmen
At least in a tribe you get treated by traditional medicine, when you need to have a bone set or help in childbirth. Those of us who can't afford insurance are out of luck.
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:12 PM
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15. Well, yes...
Compared to Botswana, our healthcare is excellent.:eyes:
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nancyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:22 PM
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16. He's not even worth a comment.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:31 PM
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19. He thinks he is and that proves just how clueless he is. Shocker for him.
Oh how I hate him and his clueless mindless bu$hit.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:29 PM
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24. ah, no. Botswana has universal health care.
So yes, America's health care sucks worse than a Third World basketcase.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:24 PM
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18. When you're on drugs and drinking, everything is wonderful.
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:58 PM
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21. President Crackhead displays his idiocy on the world stage---ONCE AGAIN.
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 09:04 PM by Ecumenist
Who the hell does this moronic cretin thinks he fooling? Hell, I often say that it's better to go to a veterinarian than to go to alot of the managed care HMO's. At least the Vets care and the knowledge they have enables them to take care of people-type folks. Every time he speaks, it's the verbal equivalent of him bending over, pulling down his pants and waving his natural shrivelled ass at passing traffic.
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:20 PM
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22. According to today's paycheck stub (almost end of year)
I have paid 10% of my earnings into health insurance YTD. Add another 18% toward w/h taxes, ss, medicare and state w/h ... and my 'disposable' income shrinks considerably.

My health insurance cost will be rising 64% in January.

Now, Mr. Chimp, tell me how good I have it on a $17,000 per year income.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:25 AM
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32. Oh come now, all you have to do is pull yourself by your bootstraps and everything'll be fine!!
Right?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 02:37 PM
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35. More like pull yourself up by Grandpa's bootstraps.
That's the bushie way, anyhow.
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sk8rrobert2 Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:43 PM
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26. So was the real information also in the NIE report
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:01 AM
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27. So George W. bUsh either LIES again, or is IGNORANT again.
Or both.

Again.

Coz fact is, George W. bUsh is once again incorrect.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:12 AM
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28. Cheney has fabulous health care ... and we foot the bills.




Shit-for-brains has a limited frame of reference. Cheney is the only example he can think of.

Smirky doesn't know or care about how anyone else gets cared for.







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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 02:31 PM
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33. Cheney is re-animated on a regular basis.
It's beyond healthcare.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 02:56 PM
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36. Any truth to the rumors?




That Uncle Dick is maintained by the Disney Animatronics people?




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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 03:26 PM
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37. I don't think so.
He's a living, organic ghoul.

"Nurses: Cheney 'would probably be dead' but for government healthcare"

"Campaigning for politicians to address universal healthcare, a nurses' group purchased provocative newspaper ads that warn Vice President Dick Cheney would "probably be dead by now" if he was not part of a single-payer government run healthcare system that keeps his oft-adled heart ticking.

The California Nurses Association purchased the eye-catching ads in 10 Iowa newspapers Tuesday, pointing out what the group says is another irony of the heatlhcare crisis -- that politicians receive health coverage from a government-run program, not insurance companies."



http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Nurses_Cheney_would_probably_be_dead_1211.html
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:13 AM
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29. What's this we shit?
Edited on Wed Dec-19-07 12:13 AM by walldude
He planning on talking to his corporate buddies and convincing them to insure my family in spite of the "pre-existing" conditions? Or is it that he's going to give my wife and son back their Medicare even though I now make enough money to pay for health care? Which is it Georgie boy? I'd love to see how great the health care is in America, I'm just not allowed.. You slimy, worm ridden lying, smarmy, arrogant piece of shit. Ok sorry, he's not worm ridden. :shrug:
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:15 AM
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30. In any rational country, they would have laughed him off the stage.
It still amazes me that he gets away with this shit without being called on it.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:23 AM
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31. He has no clue what he's talking about, no understand whatsoever of our healthcare system.
What does he know of want or need?
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 02:37 PM
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34. Yeah, if you can afford it. For average Americans, the facts are the facts:
Infant mortality rates are on the rise, which is a good indicator.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 03:28 PM
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38. fabulous health care??? what going to a ER you dimwit.
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