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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 02:39 PM
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A young blonde Icelandic woman's recent experience visiting the US (welcome to Cheney's America)
Edited on Thu Dec-20-07 02:41 PM by Barrett808
A young blonde Icelandic woman's recent experience visiting the US
Via Andrew Sullivan:
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/12/welcome-to-the.html


©Eva Ósk Arnardóttir


The story of Eva Ósk Arnardóttir:

During the last twenty-four hours I have probably experienced the greatest humiliation to which I have ever been subjected. During these last twenty-four hours I have been handcuffed and chained, denied the chance to sleep, been without food and drink and been confined to a place without anyone knowing my whereabouts, imprisoned. Now I am beginning to try to understand all this, rest and review the events which began as innocently as possible.

Last Sunday I and a few other girls began our trip to New York. We were going to shop and enjoy the Christmas spirit. We made ourselves comfortable on first class, drank white wine and looked forward to go shopping, eat good food and enjoy life. When we landed at JFK airport the traditional clearance process began.

We were screened and went on to passport control. As I waited for them to finish examining my passport I heard an official say that there was something which needed to be looked at more closely and I was directed to the work station of Homeland Security. There I was told that according to their records I had overstayed my visa by 3 weeks in 1995. For this reason I would not be admitted to the country and would be sent home on the next flight. I looked at the official in disbelief and told him that I had in fact visited New York after the trip in 1995 without encountering any difficulties. A detailed interrogation session ensued.

I was photographed and fingerprinted. I was asked questions which I felt had nothing to do with the issue at hand. I was forbidden to contact anyone to advise of my predicament and although I was invited at the outset to contact the Icelandic consul or embassy, that invitation was later withdrawn. I don't know why.

I was then made to wait while they sought further information, and sat on a chair before the authority for 5 hours. I saw the officials in this section handle other cases and it was clear that these were men anxious to demonstrate their power. Small kings with megalomania. I was careful to remain completely cooperative, for I did not yet believe that they planned to deport me because of my "crime".

When 5 hours had passed and I had been awake for 24 hours, I was told that they were waiting for officials who would take me to a kind of waiting room. There I would be given a bed to rest in, some food and I would be searched. What they thought they might find I cannot possibly imagine. Finally guards appeared who transported me to the new place. I saw the bed as if in a mirage, for I was absolutely exhausted.

(more)

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/145536-A-young-blonde-Icelandic-woman-s-recent-experience-visiting-the-US





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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 02:45 PM
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1. I..uh, think I'll put off my trip to the States for a bit.
Edited on Thu Dec-20-07 02:46 PM by wake.up.america
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 02:58 PM
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9. might be a prudent course of action.
:( Sorry.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 07:33 PM
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27. I'm not sure the imminent Democratic reign will be any better, but...
...we may hope.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 02:49 PM
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2. They are enforcing that 'visa overstay' reg.
This isn't the first person to get this treatment. I find it kinda funny that Andrew WhiteBoy Sullivan has to point out this woman's haircolor and country of origin, as though they somehow inoculate her against any scrutiny.

That said, these guys running this program are hamhanded goons. It's getting to the point where no one in their right mind wants to go anywhere near an airport unless they're wearing a uniform of an airport worker--otherwise, you risked getting roughed up, or tased or something.

The "porridge" angle is new, though--I didn't know our prisons did that sort of thing:

    I was completely exhausted, tired and cold. Fourteen hours after I had landed I had something to eat and drink for the first time. I was given porridge and bread. But it did not help much. I was afraid and the attitude of all who handled me was abysmal to say the least. They did not speak to me as much as snap at me. Once again I asked to make a telephone call and this time the answer was positive. I was relieved but the relief was short-lived. For the telephone was setup for collect calls only and it was not possible to make overseas calls. The jailguard held my cell phone in his hand. I explained to him that I could not make a call from the jail telephone and asked to be allowed to make one call from my own phone. That was out of the question. I spent the next 9 hours in a small, dirty cell. The only thing in there was a narrow steel board which extended out from the wall, a sink and toilet. I wish I never experience again in my life the feeling of confinement and helplessness which I experienced there.

    I was hugely relieved when, at last, I was told that I was to be taken to the airport, that is to say until I was again handcuffed and chained.Then I could take no more and broke down and cried. I begged them at least to leave out the leg chains but my request was ignored. When we arrived at the airport, another jail guard took pity on me and removed the leg chains. Even so I was led through a full airport terminal handcuffed and escorted by armed men. I felt terrible. On seeing this, people must think that there goes a very dangerous criminal. In this condition I was led up into the Icelandair waiting room, and was kept handcuffed until I entered the embarkation corridor. I was completely run down by all this in both body and spirit. Fortunately I could count on good people and both Einar (the captain) and the crew did all which they could to try to assist me. My friend Auður was in close contact with my sister and the consul and embassy had been contacted. However, all had received misleading information and all had been told that I had been detained at the airport terminal, not that I had been put in jail. Now the Foreign Ministry is looking into the matter and I hope to receive some explanation why I was treated this way.

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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 03:00 PM
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11. Andrew's going to point out her whiteness, of course
Edited on Thu Dec-20-07 03:01 PM by bunkerbuster1
He's all about the genetic superiority of TEH MASTER RACE!!1!!

He's still a wanker, although he seems to have a soft spot for people being run roughshod by the system.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 05:06 PM
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22. I dislike Andrew Sullivan for many reasons, but...
in this particular case, I believe his intent was to point out that NONE of us is safe in a fascist state, not even thin, white Republics. Give him the benefit of a doubt and extrapolate from what he wrote. I think his eyes are open.

Anyone who would treat another human being in this manner could just as easily devolve further into everyone's worst nightmare, the kind of person that, too often, manages to avoid a trip to the Hague: The "good" German, the Janjaweed soldier, the Bosnian Croat, the Slavadoran National Guardsmen or the Brasilian/Chilean/Honduran/Columbian death squad henchman. In short, the enforcers of fascism, many of whom were trained and supported by U.S.. Name a country in Central or S.A. or much of Africa and we've put our stamp all over their genocide.

This example as well as domestic spying, armed aggression against other countries and the no-fly list are precursors of what is to come if we don't shut down our tacit support for the current administrations policies and take back our country and our Constitution. We are in crisis mode and this is one of the most important election cycles in American history, if not the most important ever.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 10:31 PM
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37. I happen to think his point was to point out that WHITEY Blondie Pretty Girl got bagged.
It just wouldn't be any fun if dusky feller who's gay named Abdullah got the collar.

He's doing a deliberate 'compare and contrast' here.

He's also a fucking idiot. That guy remained an apologist for both Bush and John Paul II well beyond the point where anyone even just halfway flaky gave up on those assholes.

Why anyone quotes him, pays attention to him, has any respect for his idiotic, whining opinions....well, it's beyond me. The guy is a fucking nitwit. He DEFINES the term OXYMORON---a gay, HIV+ CONSERVATIVE??? Come ON!
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 11:04 PM
Response to Reply #37
42. I don't think you are getting his intention.......
And even white, blond women deserve respect. :sarcasm:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 11:15 PM
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43. I get his "intention." Andrew Sullivan is a self-loathing idiot. He is perpetually a day late and
a dollar short. This asshole:

    Thought George Bush was swell.

    Believed the Iraq War was a great idea.

    Was sold on the WMD argument.

    Thought one day the Pope would grow to love his queer ass.

He's a fucking IDIOT. He is NEVER right on ANYTHING.

So why should I suddenly think that an asshole who is right fewer times than a stopped clock would suddenly impart anything approaching "wisdom" that is worth digesting?

The boy is STUCK ON STUPID. Always has been, always will be. His offense of having unprotected sex in an HIV+ status is really, the least of his many offenses. He's a waste of bandwidth. Dumb as a post.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 11:50 AM
Response to Reply #22
78. I'd take your otherwise reasonable point very well if not for...
well, that whole "I'll reprint big ol' gobs of The Bell Curve in the New Republic, and continue to crow about what a brave white man I am over a decade later" business of his.

But Sullivan is often right about stuff, and he's right about this case, of course.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 08:28 AM
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56. I think his racist point was: we should be racially profiling
Edited on Fri Dec-21-07 08:29 AM by HamdenRice
She's white, she's blond, therefore she's not an A-Rab, and therefore can't be a terrorist, and therefore her treatment was particularly stupid in his eyes.

Implicitly, he's assuming we should be using racial profiling.

Sullivan is an asshole and very, very stupid.
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Progressive Radical Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 10:37 AM
Response to Reply #56
67. I agree that he's an asshole but ...
there are Arabs who are blonde and have blue eyes. So if that is his implication, then his premise about the need for racial profiling would be moot at best.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:08 PM
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95. This is a probably a mistranslation of "oatmeal" as "porridge"
The original was written in Icelandic and translated.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 05:48 PM
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106. I got that word..
took me back to my childhood fairytales.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 02:50 PM
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3. The question is not "is it fascism yet?"
The question is when are we going to admit what has happened?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 03:45 PM
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17. This shit is happening ALL OVER THE WORLD. There's a rise in nationalism happening.
It reminds me of the years between WW One and WW Two, actually.

Example: http://library.findlaw.com/1999/Aug/1/131039.html

    (05-10) 04:00 PST Tokyo -- When Bay Area students Angela Luna and Richard Nishizawa tried to board a plane bound for San Francisco in March, airport authorities threw them in a small holding cell and held them incommunicado for several days before banishing them from Japan for five years.

    Luna and Nishizawa, who had studied Japanese for a year at Reitaku University about 20 miles northeast of Tokyo, were not arrested for committing a serious crime. They had merely stayed in the country two weeks longer than their visas permitted.

    "We had valid 5-year visas, so we didn't bother to look at our immigration stamps," Luna, 27, said by telephone from her home in Lafayette. "The guards made me change my clothes because they had drawstrings. They thought I might use it has a weapon, or strangle someone. We were treated like criminals."

    Nishizawa, 31, who lives in Martinez, says he was handcuffed, strip- searched, placed in a 20-by-20-foot cell with four other foreigners and given a mat to sleep on.

    Christopher Mockford, a student from Ellensburg, Wash., was handcuffed and detained for three days after finishing a yearlong scholarship program at Shimane University in western Japan. He, too, was banished from Japan for five years, for staying one day longer than his visa allowed.

    .......................



Everyone's cracking down, even the Brits--they're shortening the tourist visa time:

    Visitors to the UK would be allowed to stay in the country three months instead of the current six under new visa proposals being considered by the government, BBC reported Tuesday.

    Families might also have to pay a financial deposit to ensure relatives from outside the EU, whose visit they were sponsoring left the UK on time. Press reports claim it would be set at GBP 1,000.

    The government said the bond was not for everyone, but where they think there is a risk.
    The proposals are aimed at those who deliberately overstay or work illegally in the UK.
    Immigration groups opposed the proposal saying it would be "unfair" on poorer families.

    In addition to shortening standard tourist visas, the government might also introduce special occasion visas for events such as the London Olympics in 2012.

    Visitors to the EU may be offered a cut price and time-limited visa to visit the UK to encourage group travel, the consultation document says.

    It says that although 5,750,000 visitors entered the UK for purposes other than business in 2006, the "vast majority" stayed for less than three months.

    The consultation was launched as the government announced that over a million fingerprints had now been collected from overseas foreign nationals applying to come to the UK, under a new scheme to "export" Britain's borders.



http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=88651

Friendly Thailand is copping some tude, too:

    Overstaying a visa can leave you trapped in jail and deported from Thailand



    Foreigners who migrate temporarily to Thailand sometimes break the immigration laws intentionally or unintentionally. The crime they commit may be serious or just a simple matter such as staying longer than permitted by the Immigration Bureau.



    In some cases, they only have to pay a fine to the Immigration Bureau or the Immigration Office in the province concerned. For example, in the case of a visa that expired 150 days earlier, but where the passport remains valid, the fine can be paid at the immigration checkpoint on the day of the departure. In such cases, the maximum fine that can be levied is 20,000 baht.



    In normal cases, such as when a passport has expired and the owner surrenders to the Immigration Office, the owner will be fined 200 baht per day from the date of passport expiration up to the day of surrendering. By surrendering, the owner of the passport will only have to pay a fine up to the maximum of 20,000 baht.



    However, it is important to remember that if your visa has expired even for just one day, and you do not surrender but are apprehended by immigration officials or the police, you will automatically be taken to court. If your court hearing is held on a Friday and you pay your fine the same day, in accordance with the court order, it does not mean that your case has ended. The Immigration Bureau still has to pursue your case by deporting you. Therefore, you will need to have a confirmed air ticket together with sufficient money for transportation to the airport. If you cannot meet those requirements, you will be detained in the Immigration Bureau jail until you are able to acquire a confirmed ticket and sufficient cash for the trip to the airport.

    http://www.thaivisa.com/303.0.html


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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 07:54 PM
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29. This kind of crap makes me not want to travel anywhere.
Just to France to see in-laws, and back. We're so glad my husband got his US Citizenship. I was always scared that something like this would happen to him with only a green card. :(

This bodes very badly for the world. Maybe they don't want people to travel, because oil is in short supply?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 10:27 PM
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35. I limit my air travel. It's not so onerous by train or boat, actually/ NT
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 09:36 AM
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63. I don't fly at all anymore unless my work dictates that I have to be somewhere
in a big hurry. I will take any other form of transportation necessary to avoid the fascists at the airport.

I'm not alone. I've travelled all my adult life, and so have several of my colleagues. In November alone, I can tell you of 4 other travellers who DID NOT fly. Just on the 5 of us alone, the airlines lost about $3,000 in air fares. (A couple of us had more than one stop to make, and 3 of us were going all the way across the country.) When BUSINESS travellers are avoiding the airline fiasco, the airlines are bound to be losing a lot of customers who would normally fly for convenience.

Not to worry, though. The government will use my tax dollars to prop up any airline that isn't making money. They refuse to use my tax dollars to provide health care for poor kids, but they sure as hell can pour my tax dollars into an airline so that some airline CEO can take home a few million bucks a year.

The whole system is so totally fucked up. It's not just Cheney. It's ALL republicans. They want to have this strong authoritarian fist slamming down on everyone so they can feel "safe". Funny thing is, this strong fist makes EVERYONE feel less safe, because it's a constant reminder of some illusive "enemy" that's out to get all of us. The real enemy is republicans.

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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 02:52 PM
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4. What's this country about, anyway?
How is it that this bullshit still exists? Didn't we "win" an election or something?
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Progressive Radical Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 10:42 AM
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69. Breaking News!
Britany Spears' sister is pregnant.

That trumps everything else. The dumbing down of America is in full swing.

Nothing to see here ...
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A-Long-Little-Doggie Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 02:52 PM
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5. This makes me cry for my country. what has happened to us? n/t
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 02:55 PM
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6. Very bizarre story
to say the least, I would be curious to hear what the official explanation would be.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 11:46 PM
Response to Reply #6
48. The official explanation would invariably involve some mumbling and few "9/11"s.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 02:39 AM
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53. This is by no means the first time I've heard this kind of story.
I suspect the official explanation is, "Just following the standard procedure."

The questions she was asked do make sense, although they were most likely delivered in a detached way that made them seem absurd. I suspect they wanted to know when her last period was to know whether or not she might be pregnant (a medical liability.) The other questions make sense, in a police state sort of way.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 05:51 PM
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107. They don't need no
stinking exlanation and yes, it is fucking fascism for about 7 years fucking years now. And anyone who voted with the bushites all this time is enabling it.
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 02:56 PM
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7. I guess if you've ever "over stayed" don't EVER come back.
I certainly wouldn't risk it.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 01:33 PM
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82. After being treated like that, who the fuck would want to.
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Locrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 02:58 PM
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8. and nothing will happen....

They do it because they KNOW they will never have to answer to any "mistakes" they make. Mistake 1 - answer: 911. Mistake 2 - answer: 911. And on and on....

The brownshirts are fully in charge now, or close to it. Blackwater, low paid security thugs, overworked cops - mix in a little low education and religious overtones and you have pretty close to 1938. That with a large segment of the population who see NOTHING wrong with this type of behavior.

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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 02:59 PM
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10. I guess we exported all our freedom to Iraq
Because we definitely have a deficit here.

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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 03:04 PM
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12. Well, you know, she overstayed for three weeks before
And she must be punished for that! :sarcasm:

We can't have violators of those precious immigration laws ever to be allowed in to shop and spend money again! We must demand complete and total respect for our sealed borders! :sarcasm:

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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 03:04 PM
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13. After the bullshit that happened at the border last time I went to the states, I wonder why
anyone would want to fucking go there. They made me take out every piece of ID I had, they searched my car 3 times, and I was delayed for about an hour and a half at the border before they let me through. The whole fucking time they tried to make me feel like a criminal (rude as hell)or like I had done something wrong. They even made me show my itnerary and I had to reassure about 5 different people that I was just going to a scientific conference. And this was BEFORE the whole needing a passport thing.

Sufficed to say, I have no desire to go back to the states.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 03:18 PM
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14. Welcome to the new theocratic fascist technocracy.
:dem:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 03:40 PM
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15. Wonderful. Our dollar gets devalued, and now we can't even count
on good publicity to bring in the tourist. Someone is trying to break us all.
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 03:43 PM
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16. Sorry for your encounter
This is not the America that once was, we just pretend to be or ignore what we have become or are ignorant to what we have become.

Our only glimmer of hope are the next elections.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 04:03 PM
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18. Homeland Security detained my son, too
My son, 25 years old and married and into adventure travel, went to Cambodia to visit Angkor Wat. He took a thousand photos of everything he saw there, including some street kids playing outside in the rain. One of the kids, about ten, happened to be naked.

So he gets back to the U.S. and American officials pull him aside and ask to see his camera. He says okay. They go through his photos and see that among the 999 photos of Cambodian tourist sites, there's a photo of a naked kid frolicking on the street with other kids.

They proceed to escort him to a locked room and badger him for hours about his "real reason" for going to southeast Asia. "You're a pedophile, right?" they tell him. "You took a photo of a naked kid!" My son, who's got a bad case of traveler's diarrhea, sits in the damn interrogation room with a fever and chills and they won't let him go. They want to confiscate his camera. They search through his suitcase. He's too sick to care what they're doing; he just wants to go to sleep. He says they were like Nazis, and he expected at any minute to be handcuffed and beaten up.

Finally, a supervisor shows up, looks at the photo of the kids, and says, "Naw, we can't hold him. It was taken out on a public street."

They finally let my son go home.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 05:14 PM
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25. Please tell me you are suing these brownshirted bastards...
...
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 11:17 PM
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44. Patrot Act-no lawsuits allowed
because you all know terrorists would just take advantage
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 01:46 AM
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50. Thanks for voting for that stuff Hillary!
I know I feel more secure everyday! :puke:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #50
108. This and more is exactly
why hillary does not deserve any votes in the primaries but there are those who couldn't care less about the fascism that's taken over our government since Dec. 12, 2000.
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Progressive Radical Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 10:48 AM
Response to Reply #44
70. The need to insulate the Police State is paramount.
Accountability is the enemy of fascism.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 11:13 AM
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75. We called the ACLU. They said what was done was outrageous but LEGAL!
Apparently, when you're in the hands of Homeland Security and Customs, they have the authority to confiscate anything you bring into the country -- including vacation photos. They were going to take my son's digital card with all his precious photos, but at the last minute decided not to. My son said he would have called us -- and the ACLU -- but they wouldn't let him use his cell phone.

Mind you, we are longterm supporters of the ACLU and have close friends on the board, so we would have had no trouble raising a stink. But it appears that even the ACLU can't do anything about this sort of official behavior.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 02:46 AM
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54. Total hysteria.
You know, there are better ways to protect kids from sex traffickers than to make bizarre assumptions like this. When I was growing up, it was common to take hotos of kids running around nekkid. I worry that the yellowing photographs in some photo album in the attic is going to put some of my old neighbors in the state pen. "Why is your infant daughter only wearing a diaper? Where's her shirt? Aren't you worried that some 'sicko' will stare at her 'breasts'?

Sometimes you have to wonder if the guards are sicker than the inmates.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 04:08 PM
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19. And the government DOES fuck up records. I know as I've been a victim once!
I think these folks have to be careful about looking at their database of records as a voice of god in cases like these! Just as likely it is who ever gathered information's problems, and if it is done in secret, there are few people to question their legitimacy!

A few years ago I had my tax return confiscated since they told me that I'd illicitly claimed unemployment benefits and that I also owed them more money and penalties for not having paid them earlier. They'd sent me a notice to an earlier address that I'd moved from (never mind that my tax records were up-to-date that they'd sought to withhold my payments from). I complained that their records were inaccurate and had bank records and employment records to prove it. I couldn't solve it through email communications and wound up having to go to court here locally. All I had was a judge in front of me (no government officials defending their actions). The judge just laughed a bit (in a controlled fashion of course) and just went through some gyrations as he awarded the judgement to me after seeing my documents.

I can just imagine if this sort of paperwork snafu happens with Homeland Security in these cases how the consequences of government error could be a lot worse than what I experienced (as much of a headache it was for me at the time, having to take time off from work, etc.).

We're getting into a pretty ridiculous country now where power trumps logic and laws. This needs to stop!
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 04:15 PM
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20. Welcome to Jerkwater, USA
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 04:25 PM
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21. Offered w/o comment.
Edited on Thu Dec-20-07 04:26 PM by Karenina

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 05:59 PM
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109. Too bad that's so
totally accurate, mopaul!
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 05:10 PM
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23. "Give 'em a uniform and they think they're Hitler" n/t
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 05:12 PM
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24. Can you believe the wickedness!!!?The depraved souls and tiny minds!
Edited on Thu Dec-20-07 05:15 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
Of the whole chain of authority from the myrmidon thugs, right up the chain of command.
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 05:18 PM
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26. Can you beloieve the wicked , depraved minds that tolerate this? look in a mirror!
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 07:55 PM
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31. agreed, but what can we do?
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 09:40 PM
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33. making loud rude noises when such are shown, letters, and more importantly...
... do not hesitate to voice your disgust at the watercooler, the checkout line or any where else one of these loathsome acts are mentioned, pro or con. Honest, there are many, many introverts out there fearful they are all alone in their feelings on this, let 'em know by god there are many others. If enough people start openly expressing their true feelings on this then methods of bring about change will appear, each locale and circumstance is different so no one method (other than the ballot box, and that as the last election shows is shaky)is an absolute answer. Just make the noises, and the means will come out.

Go for it! I think that there still exists a majority(albeit slim) of Americans who really, truly still believe in the 'Ideal' of MAdison, Jefferson et al.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 03:48 PM
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101. "If enough people start openly expressing their true feelings on this then methods
of bring about change will appear, each locale and circumstance is different so no one method (other than the ballot box, and that as the last election shows is shaky) is an absolute answer. Just make the noises, and the means will come out."

Like thuumbing your nose at them? What evidence do you have for that bizarre assertion? If congressmen, senators, leading US lawyers, the United Nations and any number of other people with real clout in a normal society have proved virtually powerless to get a grip of the highest superiors of these myrmidons, what on earth makes you think that making rude noises and calling the latter names would invite anything but a good lusty Tazing from them? A woman was Tazed the other day for merely raising her voice in anger at being falsely accused of using someone else's credit card!
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 05:56 PM
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91. Wrong! In situations like this, "the pen is mightier the the sword."
Edited on Fri Dec-21-07 05:58 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
With a name like yours, I would have thought you'd have known that. But make sure you get your spelling right!
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 07:52 PM
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28. What sick fucks. What the hell is wrong with this country? When will people wake up?
I'm ashamed to be American after reading this, a feeling I get pretty damn often nowadays...

what can be done???
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 07:55 PM
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30. "When will people wake up?"
Not until something happens to them personally.

Even then, many will rationalize the situation and fail to make the connection.

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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 07:56 PM
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32. Sadly, you are right. It makes me so angry.
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Progressive Radical Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 10:53 AM
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71. We will wake up:
When we realize the water is starting to boil.
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 10:22 PM
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34. One wonders what would have happened had she been less white or less blonde
For one thing, I don't think the likes of Andrew Sullivan would have either noticed or cared.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 11:21 PM
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45. what would have happened is what happened to 800,000 non caucasians last year in the US
and yeah. This is only news because she's a Nordic blond.
What happened to her happens to thousands of non-white people every day.
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 11:37 PM
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47. True - but it is utterly reprehensible that *anybody* is treated the way this lady was
and we know that far worse brutality has been visited upon those deemed 'security threats'. My annoyance with hypocrites like Sullivan stems from the fact that people like him can still muster nothing more than selective outrage and feign innocence when confronted with evidence of their complicity in enabling such atrocities.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 06:04 PM
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110. But, the upside is sully brought
this particular tragic action to the forefront and who knows what the catalyst will be to help all of those who are treated like our Icelandic woman?
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 10:31 PM
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36. Actually this kind of thing has been going on for awhile now
Edited on Thu Dec-20-07 10:32 PM by Downtown Hound
Overstay your visit to the states by even one day, it's a trip through the airport in shackles and a jail cell for you. Only for a short time though, until you get deported.

The only thing I can think of is that Homeland Security has a serious bondage fetish. Like a little blonde girl like that really needs chains.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 10:35 PM
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38. Iceland is part of the axis of evil.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 11:28 PM
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46. How many axles does this axis have now? How many are we up to? n/t
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 10:53 PM
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39. How to make this relevant to Republicans?
Paint it in the only color they see-green. Tourism is a sizable part of the American economy (about 4% off the GDP), and it could actually be larger, an area of growth. But one of the things thwarting it, is perception by foreigners that America hates foreigners, apparently with some justification. And if they think you hate them, they'll be less likely to come here. See Bubba? It does matter what 'dem damn fer'ners' think.

The perception of U.S. citizens toward foreign visitors also ranked low, at 112th place. Concerns over global terrorism in particular have made U.S. citizens more skeptical towards international tourists. “The U.S. is a welcoming nation – but we need to get this message out to the world. We need to embrace international visitors to make the most of our travel & tourism potential,” said Mr. Zubrod.


http://www.boozallen.com/capabilities/Industries/industries_article/29204417
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 10:55 PM
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40. So, if you were wondering about if the Bush/Cheney would torture
white people - there ya go! Proof that NO one is safe! Are you watching and reading RW lurkers!?
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 11:01 PM
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41. Looks like one of those turrrists that attacked Vinland!!
If let down our guard the Vikings will get us!!
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 12:28 AM
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49. Next time Eva needs to apply for a visa to my house.
I always welcome tall, blonde, Nordic women with open arms.

:evilgrin:
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 02:20 AM
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51. Here's what i just recently Googled on this:
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 09:21 AM
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Interesting that the comments section is filled with posters urging votes for Ron Paul.
It is good to see, though, many, many messages of support from Americans for this young woman.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:01 PM
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94. Ron Paul supporters are spamming the whole Internet, it seems
:shrug:
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 09:21 AM
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61. Dupe.
Edited on Fri Dec-21-07 09:22 AM by quiet.american
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 02:36 AM
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52. It's because of crap like this
And indignities of lesser nature as well, that I know some Swiss bankers who refuse
to set foot in the USA as long as Bush is in office.

Swiss bankers, for Pete's sake!!! These are the only guys in the world who worship
money more than Republicans do, and even they won't come any more.

The way things are going, CBP will hire Hells Angels to patrol the airports next.
They'll probably be an improvement over some of the goons now doing the "job."
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 02:46 AM
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55. Holy shit! A blonde!
Those bastards!

:sarcasm:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 11:11 AM
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74. THATS your reaction to this story?
:wtf:
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 01:10 PM
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80. did you see the sarcasm smiley?
a) I find it interesting that the OP's felt it important to note her hair color in the subject. It apparently was, because this story has been discussed in other threads without making a major point of her appearance (and/or didn't include a pic) but those all obtained less discussion.
b) the treatment of this woman was inexcusable. It would have been equally inexcusable (although not as attention-grabbing) if it had not been an attractive blonde.

Clearer?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 08:33 AM
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57. It's good to see that harassment isn't just for brown people anymore!
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 08:59 AM
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58. This makes me so furious -- and I wonder if any of this would change under a Democratic president.
It used to be I wouldn't hesitate to think this sort of thing would change under a Democratic president -- now I don't know.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 11:08 AM
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73. It needs more than a change at the top
US Immigration officials are well known to be the rudest in the world. I encountered it first hand when I first visited this country, on a two-week vacation to Disney World, long before I met my wife or had any thoughts of moving here (and before 9/11 too, so that's not a factor). They have the power to deport anyone they don't like the look of, and boy don't they enjoy that power. My ordeal doesn't begin to compare to what this poor woman went through, but I was still made to squirm like a fish on a hook. The guy was suspicious because I was going to be staying for TWO WHOLE WEEKS. Since Americans don't get vacations, I'm guessing jealousy of more generous European leave allowances was a factor.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 11:37 AM
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76. The irony is that the GOP has created conditions for the most powerful Democratic president ever
Will the Democrat refuse The Ring of Power?
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 12:14 PM
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79. What's scary is that Cheney and Rove have to know that
And taking that into account, the question cannot help but arise
as to what they have in mind to prevent such a thing from occurring.

I can't believe they will just sit back and let it happen. After
all, they are not Democrats--in ANY sense of the word.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 06:58 PM
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93. Indeed worrisome. n/t
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 09:04 AM
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59. Stories like this beg the question Why would any sane person wish to visit this country?
It is sort of like some easterner stumbling into "hole n the wall" in the eighteen hundreds..The USA is a cess pool of criminals...The whole world is learning this through stories such as this one. This is in no way an isolated incident..
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 09:08 AM
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60. "Thank you for choosing the Fascist States of America for your destination".
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Snarkturian Clone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 09:24 AM
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62. Makes me afraid to leave the country.
I might not be let back in!!
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 10:01 AM
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64. this happened to my friend
in Hong Kong. We both moved there together, and I got a job and she was still looking. Monthly, we took a day trip to Macau so that her tourist visa could be renewed when she re-entered the country. (This was pre '97 British handover to the Chinese.)

One trip in, the alarms went off, she was taken away into a room, interrogated. Since I had a legit visa, I tried to get to her, but they wouldn't allow me.

Five hours later, as I waited for her somewhere that I could watch the room, she was allowed to enter the ferry disembarkation terminal and enter the country with the warning that if she didn't have a legitimate work visa, she would not be allowed entrance into the country again.

It happens all over the world when people abuse tourist visas.

Of course, the handcuffing was extreme, and did not happen to my friend. It should not happen to anybody trying to get in our country, unless there are proven ties to criminal activity. But, I also don't agree that countries should allow people who have violated immigration laws or tourist visas in the past to automatically be allowed back in the country.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 10:22 AM
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65. The answer to this kind of crap is you have to pay a fine. NOT be handcuffed, shackled, and jailed.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 01:20 PM
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81. WHAT? And deny the petty tyrants their jollies???
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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 10:29 AM
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66. Oh great, I read this story a few days before I fly into the States
I sure hope I don't look like anyone dangerous. Better keep my nose mighty clean.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 10:37 AM
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68. The subject of the OP looked clean-nosed an not-dangerous...
...and look what happened to her.
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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 09:31 PM
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97. You're not helping!
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 11:06 AM
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72. Holy police state batman!
This is so utterly disgusting, yet it does not surprise me at all. Anyone who has ever been taken into custody knows about the "Small kings with megalomania" affliction that many in law enforcement suffer from. This story and the girl who died due to insurance company MUST be discussed by our Presidential candidates.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 11:49 AM
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77. Did everyone read the comments at the end....
...of the article?

Most people are completely disgusted by our country. They recognize
that we are a Fascist state.

There's one American on there who apologized and other Fascist-sympathizer
who says, "She got what she deserved."

I'm afraid, that when our country needs help the most--we will be so hated (not
just the politicians, but the citizens also) that no one will rescue us. We
rescued Germany...who will come to our aid?

No one.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 01:37 PM
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83. It's things like this why I will never visit the States as long as the Neocons' rules are still
applying.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 02:03 AM
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98. DutchLiberal
DutchLiberal

Right on target.. Would NEVER setting my two feet on the ground in US, as long as mr Bush, this administration, and the "law" that is in work here are appealing.. Don't need to be harassed like that when I visit another country.. Even in the old east-block country you was seldom, or never harassed like this, if you was a visitor to the country and don't have been in political problems with the regime...

I serious doubt that even the border guard at the KGB, the old USSR State Security was acting like that, if you was to visit the old USSR.. And the border guard in USSR was pretty paranoid, and was strip searching you, if you just have the wrong name or have something they don't like... Even today russian and east european border guards is pretty tuff when it come to searching visitors.. But not like this.. If you have been overstaying your welcome, you are been putting on the first flight out of the country - on own expense..

This is similar to what Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin together would have managed to spin out.. Maybe Lenin have it right when he say that the capitalist vest would kill them self, they just have to give the hang tow to the west...

And if USA was to go fascist, how want, og care to help US when they need it?.. That is important to know. When Germany was waging war all over the place in Europe, we would trust UK, USA and others powers to fight the nazi-regime to the end. And that was happening to.. But as some have put it, if US was to be fascist, it would be no one to help US go come free again... Maybe the people of US have to do a little revolution again - against a american government then??


This is just amazing... Is this the same US, that once was admired in the rest of the world. And that was the protector of the Western part of Europe??:.

First time I was in US, I was greeted by a border guard "welcome to US, have a great stay" when I was giving him my passport. Would I get that nice a welcome If I was to visit US today?:..

Diclotican

Sorry my bad English, not my native language
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johnlal Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 01:46 PM
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84. Sounds plausible, but has all the markings of an Internet Hoax
I'll reserve judgment until this is investigated.
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 02:16 PM
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85. An American should marry her just to get back at the bastards
But don't I remember that they strip searched Al Gore?
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 02:21 PM
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86. I overstayed in Argentina for more than a month. I paid a 50 peso fine.
However when the time came for my Argentinian friend to apply for a US Visa, I spent the better part of a week researching for him and fearing the smallest error. :shrug: what a country we have become.
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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 02:44 PM
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87. Her hair color/race are completely irrelevant to the story.
Had she been a dark-haired man with brown skin, the story would have been just as horrifying.
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 04:03 PM
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88. Only to those who don't need to hear/read it.
To the rest: "Just another <insert (in)appropriate racial epithet here>."
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 04:20 PM
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102. No, it wouldn't.
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W T F Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 04:37 PM
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89. It kinda makes you wonder.............
...If that wall that they want to put along the southern boarder is intended to keep us in rather than "them" out.:puke:
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 06:02 PM
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92. And there was me thinking the Berlin Wall went out with Nixon...!
Edited on Fri Dec-21-07 06:04 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
Erlichman! Haldeman! Wherefore art thou now?
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 05:44 PM
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90. If I ever expatriate, I'll NEVER set foot in this police state again. SHAME ON THOSE BASTARDS!
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 02:08 AM
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99. Seabiscuit
Seabiscuit

You, and the rest of free lowing democratic lowing people are more than welcome to this side of the atlantic ocean.. We need educated people, who want freedom as much as we want it.. You may give us something that we don't have for the moment. I you and your like are to emigrate I have always a coach to you to sleep on, to you are coming on your feet and into a home on your own...

My apartment is Small, bu my hearth are big;)

Welcome shall you all be;)

Diclotican

Sorry my bad English, not my native language
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 05:02 PM
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103. Thank you. That's very kind of you, Diclotican.
In fact, Norway is near the top of my list for countries I'd consider expatriating to.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 09:28 PM
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111. Seabiscuit
Seabiscuit

Maybe it is just the season, Christmas you know;). But US have been so nice to many Norwegian in the ages, so I guess it is time for us to give back some of that kindness and friendship US once was given to us: almost 800.000 Norwegian was emigrating to United States from 1830 to 1945 and more than 8 million american today have relatives, or family in Norway. And many american sees them selfs as "american-Norwegian even after 3 or 4 or more generation... And in some part of us, a dish called Lutefisk are still eaten, with fondness:P from many american (you would find lutefisk a really, inter sting dish if you ever was to eat it;) Same with Smalahove... It is in fact really good, but it doesn't look like that - for sure...

We have been Lucky here in Norway I guess. A Small country, who are peacefully, and are not in war with other nations.. And we had good politic ans who doesn't have been tempted to go to war with others.. And we must have had some good diplomats even under the cold war.... And today I do hope we still have some good diplomats.. Both to se that russia doesn't get to unfriendly (Russia have in fact NEVER going to war with Norway.. Not when Norway was a independent state... And to say that our friends in other places know where Norway are, and they are doing their best to protect Norway's interest in the world..

But, you would all be welcome, both in Norway, and is EUROPA as a whole..


Diclotican

Sorry my bad English, not my native language
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:51 PM
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96. Homeland Security must be hiring goons who get off on torturing women.
They figure a single woman from Iceland has no political clout, so they can do whatever they want. And since Cheney's company, Halliburton covers up the rape and imprisonment of its own female employees, they are probably right.

Maybe they targeted her because she was good looking.

The press should name the names of the screeners who did this sick crap.
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 03:32 AM
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100. It's not just foreigners who get this treatment. The INS attracts silly little Napoleons who get
off exercising their post-9/11 power over whomever they can. I've known Americans who've been "detained" trying to return to the U.S. from Canada because they made some wisecrack or didn't sufficiently kiss the feet of the border guards. These little "kings" are the same people who become police officers in my community after 10 weeks' training. Just a bunch of nobodies trying to convince themselves they matter.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 05:36 PM
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104. It's crap like this that helped my husband & I decide to leave....
DH is British and each and every time we would leave the States and fly back in he was subjected to a secondary interview and a several hour wait in the Atlanta Airport. I can tell you that the INS officers indeed act like nazi's.


I have often sat in one of those 'waiting'rooms while they abused and maltreated foreign visitors to the States. They are rude, arrogant and think their uniform empowers them to treat anyone as nasty as they please. I had the audacity to ask one once how long this (the wait) would take....without looking up he told me 'it would take as long as he wanted or when he felt good and damn ready'........I responded.........that that wasn't acceptable.......and he finally looked up me and spotted my US passport in my hand......he started stuttering and sputtering that I wasn't supposed to be in that room.........I told him I was waiting with my husband (a British citizen and US resident at the time). Needless to say we were processed next.....after all they couldn't have an American Citizen who still had some rights see all the nasty crap they subject foreign visitors to. IMHO they are all abunch of pompous little pricks.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 11:40 AM
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113. BooScout
BooScout

Hm, so is it like INS don't want others to visit US anymore.. That after 11 sept 2001 everyone who want to visit your amazing country have to be treated like this..

And GB, UK are one of US "closest allies" if I don't recognize it wrong.. When british nationals are been treated like that, what with other, who doesn't have the "special friendship"?...

Maybe I should let my holiday for this day go other places than to US.. With my luck I would get the whole treatment from this type of organization...

Diclotican

Sorry my bad English, not my native language
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 05:45 PM
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105. This is truly sad..
and when you think about what's behind it..it brings me to tears.

We already know bush is very unpopular in Iceland thanks to the Icelandic boy who got a hold of bush's unlisted number.

Just a look at why a democrat(dino) who enabled bush with their votes all these years needs to be shut down in this election. Yeah, you hillary.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 10:23 PM
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112. kick
This is a reminder of why Bushco is the worst administration ever.
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