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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 04:38 PM
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Cheney's Political Director's Office Burned Yesterday
A fire at the White House is believed to have caused significant damage to Vice-President Dick Cheney's suite of offices.

Officials said they were worried about water damage to the floor, made of mahogany, white maple and cherry, and considered to be very delicate, as firefighters faced the billowing smoke yesterday in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building beside the White House.

The adjacent office of the Vice-President's political director, Amy Whitelaw, was heavily damaged by fire, said Mr Cheney's spokeswoman, Lea Anne McBride.

link: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22956076-663,00.html

What papers/documents would be exclusively in the Political Director's Office?

Claims that the only fire damage was in the electrical closet seem wrong. Whitelaw's office was heavily damaged by FIRE, not water and smoke like the other claims.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 04:59 PM
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1. Anyone know anything about Amy Whitelaw?
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 05:08 PM
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2. By law in PA, legislators' state paid employees can NOT work on political matters
That kind of work is supposed to be financed by political donations and carried out strictly away
from the elected officials' state offices. This is tantamount to saying that the GOP dirty tricks staff has offices in the Executive Office Building.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 05:27 PM
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6. dickie's political dirty worker would have plenty of papers in need of burning.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 05:53 PM
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17. taxes should not go to political parties, PERIOD, no way, shape, or form
White House paying Karl Rove will be his undoing, since the salary defined hi legal activity as an official employee of the government subject to the laws, plus rules and regulations of the particular job, branch, office, department, etc.

But, the White House should not have a political affairs office on the taxpayers dime!! Make RNC do that, if they want to behave politically while in the White House, go do it as an RNC functionary, not as a taxpayer servant.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 05:12 PM
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3. By typing her name for a search I only came up with reference to the fire.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 06:26 PM
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22. For a political director, she's pretty low-key
There's not one mention of her anywhere?
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 06:31 PM
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23. Is she a real person?
If so, just what does she do?
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 06:40 PM
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24. It's Aimee Whitlelaw, VP assistant for Political Affairs
Edited on Thu Dec-20-07 06:52 PM by Marie26
Edit: OK, found it. Her name is misspelled - it's actually "Aimee Whitelaw."

Washington Post, "Hush-Hush." July 2, 2007

"Energy Displacement

Aimee Whitelaw, deputy director of public affairs at the Department of Energy, is said to be moving over to the White House in two weeks to replace Jonathan D. Felts as assistant to Vice President/Sen. Cheney for political affairs."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/01/AR2007070101036_pf.html


LOL - Vice-President/Senator Cheney? That must be that fourth branch he always talks about.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 06:42 PM
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26. The name does come up blank
See posts 21 and 25 below
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 06:53 PM
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29. See edit above. :) nt
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 06:58 PM
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30. Good work!
Now we have a real person to investigate.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 05:17 PM
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4. Has Anyone Seen ANY Reports Yet On Whether They Are Claiming ANY Document Or ARCHIVE Damage?
Also, the fire was NOT AT THE WH. This story is innaccurate. It was at the Eisenhower Exec. Office Bldg. I can't find many references to the actual full extent of damage or what agency(s) are handling the investigation (if any). Has anyone else?

:shrug:
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 05:23 PM
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5. That building is next to the White House and considered to be
"on the White House grounds."
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 05:32 PM
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9. I Still Think It's Innacurate
Both the title and lead. It says:

Fire hits White House (It hit a bldg on the WH grounds, but NOT the WH)

A FIRE at the White House... (It was not at the WH)

They clarify it later, but it's just not accurate, even if the EEOB is considered to be ON WH grounds. The suggestion is the WH itself was hit by the fire, and it wasn't. Now, you may consider this quibbling, but IMO I would prefer a bit more accuracy in the reporting.
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 05:28 PM
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7. doesn't matter WHAT, if any documents were in Whitlaws office...
Absolutely any document they wish to destroy now or the near future can be said, after a suitable search period to have been last seen in Whitlaws office and therefor destroyed. DOesn't matter the implausibility of such a document being there, you cannot prove otherwise.


Welcome o-followers of dummo-crats they did it to you again, thanks to ball-less, spineless Democratic Leaders afraid to excercise their constitutional powers to supoena, and when denied, to subsequently excecise their power of arrest...yes, Congress can order the Sgt at Arms to arrest and bring forth. Would cause a crisis and wind up in the USSupCt, but all exceptr Thomas the Retard and Adolph Alito would back the Constitutional powers of Congress. What crisis is more deadly to the nation than that the Executive Branch should take complete control?

But fear not, or as most Democrats are want to do nowadays, fear at will - your leaders will not discomfit the usurpers.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 05:30 PM
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8. Delete
Edited on Thu Dec-20-07 05:32 PM by Beetwasher
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 05:36 PM
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11. It is the same as calling all the buildings on a University, the University.
I understand it can cause a point of confusion, but what caught my eye was that an office was severely damaged by FIRE, when the official story is only the electrical closet was damaged by fire, the rest by water/smoke. I would like to see at least a few questions asked and answered.

Was the electrical closet the true source of the fire. Did it spread to Whitelaw's office. What was in that office, and what was lost?

I imagine that the hard drive(s) in Whitelaw's office melted? What was lost?

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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 05:41 PM
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14. I Disagree, There's A Difference
Edited on Thu Dec-20-07 05:43 PM by Beetwasher
A University IS in fact the collection of bldgs (usually) and a fire would happen "on the campus" or the "grounds", the WH is in fact ONE building. But it's not worth quibbling over, really. ;)

There's been curious little reporting on this story and lack of details as to the extent of damage. My suspicions grow.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 05:45 PM
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15. The Fire Dept. declared it solved and accidental in 30 minutes.
When a fire brakes out on the White House grounds, it is considered a security threat. It never appeared to be handled as such. Then dickie takes a grinning victory lap with chimpy and the firefighters. It hardly got a mention in the national news.

A few easy questions need to be raised and answered before this event should be considered benign.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 05:46 PM
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16. Curiously This Report Makes No Mention Of That
I've been looking for additional reporting throughout the day and found pretty much NOTHING since yesterday, and an article in the Washington Times that I refuse to even look at for obvious reasons.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 05:33 PM
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10. Okay, my skeptical attitude toward you tinfoilers just dropped a hair
I still think it's nuts to assume anything. The wires in that old building might've just shorted out cause they were overheating the document shredder. Perfectly innocent.

Still, Cheney simply doesn't need to invent an excuse to destroy evidence. If he's half the Blofeld half of DUers claim he is, then he could just as easily (and a lot more sneakily) discard the evidence in the privacy of his buddies' K Street offices. Why go thru the bother of the EOB fire ruse to begin with?
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 05:37 PM
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12. Because He's Under Orders NOT To Destroy Evidence
Edited on Thu Dec-20-07 05:39 PM by Beetwasher
And he can CLAIM this fire destroyed docs, whether it's true or not, and, in theory, be off the hook for not producing docs AND not be charged w/ obstruction for it.

Is this the case? Who knows, I've seen curious little reporting and follow-up or anything I would consider evidence either way ('news' reports that it was accidental nothwithstanding), but there's certainly reason to be suspicious. If true, is this smart and fiendishly clever or desperate and stupid? Time will tell.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 05:59 PM
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19. Tin Foil Alert OR House of cards collapses again
In government, there is never one copy of anything, so any conspiracy theory needs elaboration to all copies destroyed. House of cards collapses again.

Trying to avoid the distraction ...
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 06:02 PM
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20. So Why Shred ANYTHING To Begin With?
Edited on Thu Dec-20-07 06:04 PM by Beetwasher
I guess those shredders they use are useless, huh? Total waste of time. I guess they're not claiming millions of emails somehow dissapeared either. Nahhh. What point? :eyes:
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 06:45 PM
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27. Shred everything, or why shred anything? is likeliest. Especially as they reclassify, hide in
perpetuity docs, etc. There is a non-stop inquisition ongoing regarding USG documents, with reclassification to secret off library shelves happening right now, and we pay for it (someday).
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 11:56 PM
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33. Uhh What?
:shrug:
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 05:39 PM
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13. It may have been something non-shreadable.
It may have not been easy to remove say a harddrive or some other material. I don't know, but why have a disinformation campaign about an electrical fire?
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 05:58 PM
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18. A shredder shouldn't be operated nonstop for more than an hour or two.
It was only a matter of time.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 06:08 PM
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21. Looks like Mary Matalin held the post previously
Wonder what papers form her reign were burned?

"Mary Matalin, Mr. Cheney’s former political director." http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/07/washington/07cheney.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 06:40 PM
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25. More on Matalin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Matalin

Despite the conspiracy frowners, all things are worth looking into concerning these crooks.

Anyone have any info yet on Whitelaw?
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 06:49 PM
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28. What is the Vice President doing with a RNC political director?
And why is the American taxpayer being asked to pay the huge salary of a GOPer whose job it is to make sure the GOP is managed?

I hate how these guys have turned the entire government into just an arm of the GOP.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 08:17 PM
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31. David Addington also has an office in the Eisenhower building.
He is one of the four lawyers mentioned in the NYT, in regards to the destruction of the Torture Tapes. He is one of the guys that gave legal counsel on the tapes' destruction. Evidence pertaining to discussions about the torture tapes from the WH are due at the hearing on Friday. I imagine his office got hosed during the fire.

BTW, he is also being pursued for war crimes in Germany.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 09:52 PM
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32. Out of curiousity, did you come up with any details about this
Edited on Thu Dec-20-07 09:52 PM by balantz
Aimee Whitelaw person? I think all I read was that before this position she worked for the DOE.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 08:39 AM
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34. That's all I found.
Her name was signed to several DoE news releases, but I found nothing more.
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