I will starve within a month;

Processed Meats Declared Too Dangerous for Human Consumption

he World Cancer Research Fund (WCRF) has just completed a detailed review of more than 7,000 clinical studies covering links between diet and cancer. Its conclusion is rocking the health world with startling bluntness: Processed meats are too dangerous for human consumption. Consumers should stop buying and eating all processed meat products for the rest of their lives.

Processed meats include bacon, sausage, hot dogs, sandwich meat, packaged ham, pepperoni, salami and virtually all red meat used in frozen prepared meals. They are usually manufactured with a carcinogenic ingredient known as sodium nitrite. This is used as a color fixer by meat companies to turn packaged meats a bright red color so they look fresh. Unfortunately, sodium nitrite also results in the formation of cancer-causing nitrosamines in the human body. And this leads to a sharp increase in cancer risk for those who eat them.

A 2005 University of Hawaii study found that processed meats increase the risk of pancreatic cancer by 67 percent. Another study revealed that every 50 grams of processed meat consumed daily increases the risk of colorectal cancer by 50 percent. These are alarming numbers. Note that these cancer risks do not come from eating fresh, non-processed meats. They only appear in people who regularly consume processed meat products containing sodium nitrite.

Sodium nitrite appears predominantly in red meat products (you won't find it in chicken or fish products). Here's a short list of food items to check carefully for sodium nitrite and monosodium glutamate (MSG), another dangerous additive:

* Beef jerky
* Bacon
* Sausage
* Hot dogs
* Sandwich meat
* Frozen pizza with meat
* Canned soups with meat
* Frozen meals with meat
* Ravioli and meat pasta foods
* Kid's meals containing red meat
* Sandwich meat used at popular restaurants
* Nearly all red meats sold at public schools, restaurants, hospitals, hotels and theme parks

http://www.totalhealthbreakthroughs.com/newsletter/12-07-07_thb_fri.html

Holy crap batman; this includes just about 100% of my caloric intake.

Guinness and Irish Soda Bread, and the occasional bowl of stew.

After 23 years of consuming no red meat at all, the only things I craved were bacon and sausage. I'd just begun to have some again when this report came out. AMAZING INFO!

Good viruses, of course...

"the FDA approved a mixture of six viruses that food companies can spray on lunchmeat, hot dogs and sausages before packaging them.

The viruses are supposed to kill any Listeria monocytogenes bacteria that try to multiply on lunchmeats. Listeria causes an infection that seriously sickens 2,500 Americans annually, causing 500 deaths."

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17093490&BRD=1699&PAG=461&dept_id=46368&rfi=6

Bacteriophages really are the magic bullet that antibiotics were supposed to be. They are capable of killing one strain of bacteria whilst leaving related strains untouched.

Russia has been using them with great success since before Flemming and his mouldy orange. Some work was done on them in the West but because of their specificity and the need to grow a separate strain for each target bacteria, they were abandoned with the discovery of broad spectrum antibiotics which killed large numbers of different species of bacteria. That they killed the good with the bad, was considered a fair price for something which could be used without real thought.

Russia continued with phages and I recall reading sidebar stories in articles about them, of cures effected against disease causing organisms that laugh at the best antibiotics.

Jimmy Carter used to grow some stuff...........I think they are called
..peanuts.......still grown here in the U.S.A..they are eatable..
.....turned into peanut butter......that is eatable too...
......knock it off..you ain't going to starve till they clean this mess up..

try to eat something else.......100 percent of your intake???? helpppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp

check it out.

And if you buy organic peanut butter, you are eating the peanut fungus.

are you afraid of dying?

you mean George Washington Carver?

Yeah, ok, Carter was a peanut farmer.

Beans, Legumes, nuts, cheese, eggs, soy products, whole grains, local veggies... all are excellent protein sources.

16 years and meat free for me... i'm lean, but strong and healthy.

:)

Remember when they would x-ray people's feet to see if the shoe they were trying on fit?

Funny how it's declared safe until it's declared definitely NOT safe.

... in my feet. They had one of those machines just inside the front door and it was a favorite for us kids - barely tall enough to see in the viewer with our feet in the bottom.

:evilgrin:

But it was fun to watch the bones in my feet wiggle. :silly: :dunce: (I'd probably STILL like it.)

Now they have gotten wide to the point where I can't find shoes that fit.

Maybe it was the radiation?

:silly:

if you did it, how many others?

Parents were impressed with being able to see their kid's foot inside the shoes and whether they had room. I really don't know how much better it was than just feeling the shoe, but it sure seemed to please both parents and kids. If I recall, however, that was around only for 2-3 years ... I think they caught on to the health hazards. (Maybe it was the shoe salesmen ... and a falling birth rate.)

...The good old days when life was cheap(er).

Here's and interesting article regarding the "Radium Girls."

http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=660

World Cancer Research Fund (WCRF) would know what the chemical actually does when they propose to ban it. WHile it is used to control color it's main purpose, along with sodium chloride is to control Clostridium botulinum. That would be botulism to you and I.

"Sodium nitrite is produced in the human body by the action of saliva on sodium nitrate, and is important in controlling bacteria in the stomach, to prevent gastroenteritis. The body produces more sodium nitrite than is consumed in food." So our body is producing the cancerous sodium nitrite?

"Sodium nitrite can react with proteins in the stomach or during cooking (especially in high heat, such as frying bacon) to form carcinogenic N-nitrosamines. To prevent this, ascorbic acid or erythorbic acid are now added to the cured meat."
http://sci-toys.com/ingredients/sodium_nitrite.html

Nice try World Cancer Research Fund, someone pass me a chunk of jerky please and some of that summer sausage.

neither do organic deli meats. I eat them maybe once a month.

For some reason, each of the items on that list just give me a "ucky" feeling ... and I'm sure as hell not some dietary "purist." I sure like my meat but, for example, I just enjoyed a luncheon sandwich (turkey club) at my favorite local deli (the Onion Roll on Woodward north of 11 for you locals) ... and they don't use nitrite-soaked meats. Those items could be taken off the market and I doubt I'd miss anything other than the bacon and sausage on those 5-10 times a year I chow down on an old-fashioned breakfast.

humanely raised meat. No-nitrite bacon is just fine.

like you were really thinking you will starve. I think it's concerning a lot of people about you instead of the food you're posting about.

Otherwise, very interesting & informative article. Thanks for the info.

Are all those people dead?

:hi: Still very much here.

And organic meats take care of the nitrites problem.

:)

Not giving up my favorite meal... a BLT and a big kosher dill.

:D

over the years, I've become something of a pro at growing tomatoes, and I love 'em! . . . and my mom used to claim that she knew how to make "the perfect BLT" -- and proved it when she was hospitalized and instructed the nurse EXACTLY how she wanted the kitchen to prepare one for her . . .

still, over the past few years, I've pretty much given up red meat and processed meat, and I'm working on pork . . . I've cut way down on bacon consumption -- just an occasional sandwich -- and as soon as I find an acceptable bacon substitute, I'll probably cut it out altogether . . .

beyond nitrate and other chemical concerns, beef and pork and such are simply not compatible with aging digestive systems . . . just ask my stomach . . .

I think the one in the store I went to was older than me. Those jars of sausage had no expiration date; I'd go in there and see the same sausages floating in the urine-colored fluid month after month. I was never tempted to fish one out.

Chinese food last week rife with MSG!

Mother of God, I'm digging my own friggin' grave. Gotta call my oncologist after Christmas if I'm still breathing....might as well have a cigarette...
:smoke:

We live to eat here. :9

Pretty ruthless taunting me with that.
It is true.
I did network work all over the country and no one was more concerned with food quality than the folks in Southern Louisiana.

:D

Music, food, sex and spirits (alcohol and voodoo), and is't cheaper than anywhere else in the USA.

Mardi Gras is early next year: Feb. 5th. ;)

That looks so good I am almost ready to chuck all this Christmas crap, trudge through the snow drifts and hitch a ride to the nearest airport. Mmmmmmmm.

I would call you a lucky Rat but that does not really apply anymore does it. :(

Still, the forces of life are strong there and that is what makes our time on this planet worth it all.

Aw hell, just dump the boiler on dat newspaper over there! Nothing beats a good crawfish boil!

:D

of us who don't have choices.

Think of those of us who eat in our car, because it's the only place we have to live. What are our choices?

Think of those who eat in shelters and "soup kitchens" (I sure hope they get more than soup!). What are our choices?

Think of all of us who have NO WAY to afford the more expensive "pure" food, and have no way to prepare it.

Thank goodness I balance my pepperoni intake with flaxseed meal -- and copious quantities of water, blended cunningly with barley, yeast, and hops!

(I've given up on ever becoming President, Pope, or a Captain of Industry. Now I'm shooting to become the best-preserved corpse you ever saw in your life.)

Next week pepperoni will be a food group all its own.

to calculate my risk if every 50 grams of processed meat consumed daily increases the risk of colorectal cancer by 50 percent. Maybe I should just disembowel myself now.

nasty ingredients. They cost a little more, but they generally taste better and aren't going to give you cancer.

:)

The stats about pancreatic cancer were just too scary for me. And as for lunch meat, turkey doesn't have nitrites, so I buy that.

Turkey has always been on my good list.

If you have a 1/(some large number) chance of developing pancreatic cancer abstaining from processed meats, a 1.67/(some large number) isn't that much worse, and you still get to enjoy all of that processed meaty goodness.

he's obese, has a pacemaker, cancer, kidney stones, high blood pressure...but he STILL won't give up his beef n' bacon diet. He's tired all the time and can hardly walk down his own driveway to get the mail. I've begged and pleaded with him to eat less meat and more fruit and veggies, but he won't listen. The amazing thing is that he considers himself an environmentalist, and eating beef is harder on the environment than driving a Hummer.

I gave up red meat 12 years ago and rarely eat any kind of meat anymore. I've lost weight and my fibromyalgia symptoms have lessened considerably. If you "can't live" without the taste of meat then try Quorn products. Otherwise, you might not live at all.

:hug: Damn!:loveya:

Lorien, I hate to break it to ya, but there is not yet the evidence to say either way that a processed hunk of vat-grown fusarium fungus (a.k.a. - "Quorn") is any safer than processed meats. It's a new food. Maybe it's the food of the future, or maybe it'll kill us. I felt weird the few times I ate it, so no more Quorn for me, thanks.

Me, I'll take the small-farm-raised, natural meats when I can get 'em. Though when I go out for Chinese, it's mostly tofu & veggies on my order...

-app

;)

:rofl:

Sorry, had to do it. This article is so way over the top. Rocking the health world? Yet there's no other real articles about this amazing discovery? Too funny!

Yes, red meat and processed meats, when consumed in high daily quantities, can lead to increased risks of cancer. Course, everyone already knew that. Course, for most average people, their consumption is perfectly fine.

Loved the article though!

I eat meat every day because I like it. If it shortens my life, at least I'll know I went out as a carnivore.

That should just about offset your lunch meat risk.

Oh, and according to the same mob (IIRC) your char grilled ribs/steak/burger are killing you too.

And your furniture and carpets. Formaldehyde.

Not to mention your whole house. Radon.

Are you any sort of woodworker? Fine sawdust from many timbers is apparently carcinogenic too.

CCA (copper chromium arsenate) treated timber is another bogeyman of recent years. My understanding is that you'd have to eat a handful of sawdust a day for a month or more to pick up a lethal dose.

Lead isn't all that great, but who is aware that unleaded petrol contains benzene, a substance that is almost guaranteed to cause leukemia, particularly in children?

I wouldn't mind a look at who funds these bodies, as they seem hellbent on scaring us with tales about relatively minor risks, and say nothing at all of things known to be major risks, that have great industrial importance.

Why has it taken so long to recognise the psychotropic risks of a great many food additives? Risks that still can't actually be quantified, because the required studies JUST PLAIN ARE NOT DONE.

I still eat seafood, eggs and milk. Other than that, no meat. Don't miss it much at all. Gives me peace of mind too whenever articles like this surface. (Ok I've had an occasional little nibble of pepperoni off the top of a pizza, but it always makes me kinda queasy now. It's kinda like after you've quit smoking for a long time and then you have a couple drags and think, what am I doing?)

I eat what I want to eat. Drink what I want to drink. I'm 41 and I'd be pretty happy getting hit by a bus tomorrow.

Perhaps people wouldn't be so fearful of the grave if they'd actually done something useful with their petty and miserable lives.

People walk around on eggshells worrying about whats gonna kill them. I figure if i'm gonna go out i might as well go out doing the things i enjoy. I am not that old (38) but have had plenty of friends and loved ones who did not make it this far being shot, or a car wreck, cancer at a young age, what have you.

if dying of nitrate induced cancer at age 83 instead of from congestive heart failure at 84 is a cause of serious concern, then perhaps people need to get out more often and try living life a little.

You're 100% right. For every single one of my friends who have died from cancer (so far, only one, liver cancer), there have been 5 suicides, 1 diabetic coma, 2 heroin overdoses, 2 cases of AIDS and 2 car wrecks. For that matter, I've known one guy die of a peanut allergy and one guy die of an asthma attack.

Fearing cancer from smoked and otherwise preserved meats is idiotic. If you're going to get cancer, you're going to get cancer. As for me... tonight I'm eating kielbasa and cancer be damned.

nt

Might as well be something i enjoy.

Saves on the horrible suffering of animals too.

enough said.