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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 04:27 PM
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What Would Benjamin Franklin - Citizen/Printer - Do with "Dangerous Data"?
Edited on Tue Dec-25-07 04:42 PM by CorpGovActivist
"Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one." -- A.J. Liebling

If Benjamin Franklin, citizen-printer, had "dangerous data" pertaining to an aspirant to succeed George Washington in his high office, what would he do with it?

Would he "Poor Richards" it? Publish under a pseudonym, as he did (as "an American Guesser") when describing the http://www.greatseal.com/symbols/rattlesnake.html">Gadsden Flag's symbolism? (Note his anonymous letter was published right after Christmas, 1775.)

Would he set up a confidentially-registered website, PDF the materials, and put them out there, without editorialization or filtered treatment, for all to virtually view for themselves?

Freedom of the press is indeed only guaranteed to those who own one. Franklin understood that innately, and wielded that guarantee like few others before or since.

But what would he do in the modern context?

- Dave
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 05:07 PM
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1. We all have printing presses now
with the web and the internet. It's really like everyone with web access has their own newspaper and soapbox from which to spread whatever message they want. It is very cool and Ben Franklin would approve I think.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 05:08 PM
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2. As Would Tom Paine, Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, John Jay, Patrick Henry ...
... and many of our other prototypical polemicists, methinks.

- Dave
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:27 AM
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3. "in order to divert an idle hour, I sat down to guess what could have been intended"
Franklin's letter is a good read, if you have an idle few minutes of your own.

How we all spend our "idle hours" at our modern printing presses could well shape the next election, and the course of the Republic.

Heady stuff indeed!

: )

- Dave
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:58 AM
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4. Franklin was our first "007" and data is just data until it is put in context. If you are decision
Edited on Wed Dec-26-07 12:01 PM by CK_John
challenged or unable to handle the blowback put in it the mail and send it to the NYT. If you think it is worth money get a literary agent and contact the Enquirer.

I have read several of these posts and you claim the candidate knows the data so quit the bs and get it out or sell it.

Edit: Don't leave dna on the back of the stamp.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:03 PM
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5. Celtic Proverb: "A good king takes counsel, then acts."
Elizabeth I nearly drove her advisors mad - seemingly waiting until the last possible nanosecond to make decisions, and constantly seeking possible new options that had not yet been considered.

The last time I checked tho, they're still speaking English in the UK, rather than Spanish.

Neither blowback nor profit enter into the equation. What a crass and cynical view!

- Dave
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:13 PM
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6. My throne is down the hall and to the right. n/t
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:18 PM
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8. LOL...Well Then Why Are You...
... "availing yourself" here?

All kidding aside, one can substitute "leader" or "decisionmaker" for "king" in that proverb, and the meaning still holds true.

- Dave
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:32 PM
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10. My slogan is "a bad decision is better than no decision". To me people are either fact finders or
decision makers. Neither is good or bad, it is their nature and the worst thing that happen is putting a fact finder in a decision making position, especially in politics.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:41 PM
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11. Wreck the Car, the Insurance Premium Is Paid up in Full?
; )

Are there gradations in your binary view? Are there decision-makers who are more or less apt to take more or less time, for instance?

Or fact-finders who - in a pinch, under adrenaline conditions - can be counted upon to make a decision?

- Dave
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:50 PM
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14. Not much. n/t
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:55 PM
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15. Franklin as "M"?
That's a pretty neat thought, actually.

As for leaving DNA on the back of the stamp: digital forensics is more like it, for 1's and 0's.

- Dave
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:58 PM
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16. Jefferson was "M". n/t
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 01:00 PM
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17. I Can See That ... Franklin, Field Agent to France ...
... with INTJ Jefferson at the command post.

- Dave
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 06:53 PM
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20. Hamilton (My Favorite Founder) as ... ??? n/t
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:17 PM
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7. He would produce it for the greatest number to see.
"The Rattle-Snake is solitary, and associates with her kind only when it is necessary for their preservation. In winter, the warmth of a number together will preserve their lives, while singly, they would probably perish."

Although A.Guesser is here referring to the country America, it applies now. The data should be put out for all to see, and all can preserve. Singly, it may perish.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:23 PM
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9. "she never wounds 'till she has generously given notice, even to her enemy"
Edited on Wed Dec-26-07 12:25 PM by CorpGovActivist
"Conscious of this, she never wounds 'till she has generously given notice, even to her enemy, and cautioned him against the danger of treading on her."

The bite doesn't come until after "generously giv notice" - and giving the prospective enemy the opportunity to change course.

- Dave
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 01:17 PM
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18. I see two balancing acts here.
1. Give generous notice up front, thereby giving the prospective enemy the opportunity to change course.

2. Lay your cards on the table quickly in order to give the prospective enemy time to refute, this would be generous and just if you were wrong, yet your motivation was pure, as opposed to whipping out a last minute primary form of October Surprise.

I believe the common denominator in both cases is generosity. I guess the ultimate question is, has enough notice been given? If you believe it has, I say proceed with a clear conscious.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 01:21 PM
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19. Thoughtful Advice, Indeed!
Thank you, very much, for that treatment of the timing element.

- Dave
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:41 PM
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12. He'd do exactly what he did with that kind of thing in his own time
Publish it, often in the form of letters to the editor of a newspaper, under an assumed name.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:45 PM
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13. In the Form of a LTTE at His Own...
... outlet, no less!

: )

- Dave
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