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133724 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 05:15 AM Original message |
Single Bullet, Single Gunman ( Who Shot JFK) |
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GreenZoneLT (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 05:29 AM Response to Original message |
1. There are no credible doubts about Kennedy's assassination |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 08:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
20. Posner had an agenda, and some of his methodology has been criticized |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 08:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
32. MANY other books refute Posner. And I've read virtually every one. |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #32 |
58. what was the weapon that second gunman used? |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 08:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
33. Perhaps, Except It's Posner Saying It |
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NoGOPZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
51. No fan of Posner here. |
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Liberal OIF Vet (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I read his book as well..... |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
57. How about the Oswald impersonations in Mexico City? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:39 PM Response to Reply #57 |
100. Al Bundy shot Kennedy! |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #100 |
118. There's nothing funny about the assassination of President Kennedy. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #118 |
120. Whatever |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
65. Indeed, there are no credible doubts about the Coup d'Etat of 1963... |
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Liberal OIF Vet (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. And the choir says.... |
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StrictlyRockers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #65 |
131. Amen brother. |
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Archae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 05:33 AM Response to Original message |
2. Uh oh...133724... |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
18. Any credible evidence? |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 08:34 AM Response to Reply #2 |
28. The Pristine Bullet< anyone? Prove THAT is possible. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
74. 1. It's a FMJ with high sectional density. 2. It actually was somewhat damaged |
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GreenZoneLT (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:50 PM Response to Reply #28 |
102. Well, fine, except it's not remotely pristine |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
71. EVEN ON MYTHBUSTERS? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:15 PM Response to Reply #71 |
98. ... |
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PDittie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 05:37 AM Response to Original message |
3. It's been a great ride for 43 years |
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StrictlyRockers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 06:04 AM Response to Original message |
4. Riiight. That must be why the Congressional Select Committee concluded it was a conspiracy, right? |
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GreenZoneLT (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:23 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Yeah, I've read "Case Closed." |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 08:22 AM Response to Reply #8 |
27. I think JFK's head was imploded from the inside by very small Israeli art students. |
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StrictlyRockers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #8 |
126. The book just drips with footnotes, you are correct. |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 06:26 AM Response to Original message |
5. Self-Delete |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 06:55 AM Response to Original message |
6. This proves nothing friend |
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GreenZoneLT (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. The majority of Americans believe in Biblical creationism |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. good point, Hell, a lot of them probably believe in |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 08:36 AM Response to Reply #10 |
30. Actually the majority of Americans DON'T believe in creationism |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 08:58 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. That part, at least, isn't hard... |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 09:01 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. "pansy"? |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 09:54 AM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Oops...patsy (n/t) |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 09:45 AM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Point black range? I think not |
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GreenZoneLT (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:07 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Math-challenged? |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #42 |
53. Thoughts... |
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Liberal OIF Vet (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I agree that 88 yds is not a hard shot, but... |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 09:25 AM Response to Reply #10 |
39. Yes they do, like you are serving a Nobel cause in Iraq |
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GreenZoneLT (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Another thing that's not true. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:21 AM Response to Original message |
7. As though the whole case hinges on that one issue. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
9. One mystery solved. The other mystery is where the bullet that took JFK's head off came from. |
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GreenZoneLT (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:37 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. That's not a mystery, either. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 08:07 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Again, "Case Closed" was written with a very clear agenda |
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Liberal OIF Vet (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 08:11 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I believe..... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 08:15 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Okay, I'll agree with your definition of "conspiracy" |
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Liberal OIF Vet (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 08:18 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Possible...... |
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GreenZoneLT (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
101. Well, you can believe what you like. |
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PhilipShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 12:06 AM Response to Reply #101 |
104. How about Jack Ruby working for Nixon |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
66. Are you saying two guys opened fire simultaneously by coincidence? n/t |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 08:48 AM Response to Reply #12 |
34. I have seen the Zapruder film many times |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #34 |
75. Someone who knows anything about bullets knows the shot is from behind |
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Liberal OIF Vet (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. You ever heard of..... |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. As a matter of fact, as someone who has over ten years of experience |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 09:14 AM Response to Reply #79 |
107. Dum Dum Round |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #75 |
82. Your own words seem to contradict your premise. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:09 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. You can say that about any statement. Where is this contradiction? |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:21 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. Your "arguement" supports the premise of a round from the FRONT. |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:40 PM Response to Reply #75 |
95. And no ammunition that |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 10:26 AM Response to Reply #95 |
111. Not true |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 11:17 PM Response to Reply #111 |
128. The head not much different than a mellon? |
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Liberal OIF Vet (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
11. It's all about simple physics, people! |
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GreenZoneLT (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:38 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. See link #12 for explanation |
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Liberal OIF Vet (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:41 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Nope...sorry... |
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GreenZoneLT (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:44 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. She was scrambling in terror to get away from him |
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Liberal OIF Vet (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:49 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. No, they did not ignore physics..... |
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Liberal OIF Vet (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 08:20 AM Response to Reply #16 |
26. So.... |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 08:37 AM Response to Reply #16 |
31. No. she explicitly stated she was going after a piece of the SKULL, not brains. |
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Liberal OIF Vet (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 09:18 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Seems to me..... |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #38 |
48. I never said I thought all shots came from the TBD. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #16 |
59. Bull |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 09:42 AM Response to Reply #11 |
41. that might be true if he were hit with a blunt object- but a bullet acts differently... |
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Liberal OIF Vet (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #41 |
49. So you mean to tell me... |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #49 |
76. Bullets don't have enough force to actually move the head much by themselves |
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Liberal OIF Vet (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Wow...... |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 06:51 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Ever shot an animal, Einstein? Because I have and the body only moves |
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Liberal OIF Vet (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #81 |
91. Never shot an animal.... |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:16 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. You are wasting your time arguing with this one. |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 10:30 AM Response to Reply #80 |
112. The head offers little resistance. |
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Liberal OIF Vet (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #112 |
113. Little Resistance or not... |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #113 |
115. Of course it is |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #11 |
114. You missed part of the equation |
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Liberal OIF Vet (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #114 |
116. Recoil off of his chest? |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #116 |
117. Was his chest made out of tampoline material? |
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Liberal OIF Vet (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #117 |
125. I am getting no more ridiculous... |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
19. The Zapruder film, if anybody's interested |
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tetedur (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
23. Simple anatomy |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 08:36 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. I've been conflicted about this for 43 years |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
35. "Man of the House" |
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La_Fourmi_Rouge (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
40. I wish DU had a "Un-Recommend" option. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
43. Deleted message |
Liberal OIF Vet (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #43 |
50. If simple physics.... |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. uh okay |
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PhilipShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
44. Ed Morales and the Miami Cuban mafia and the Nazis |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #44 |
60. Morales was connected to the CIA |
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PhilipShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. I know -- but I don't know if that is the same Cuban... |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:56 PM Response to Reply #62 |
96. Well good luck with that |
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PhilipShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:28 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. Of course money is imporant... but I decided to look into because |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
55. You know who fired the one that did him in? Someone in a car on the other side of Dealey Plaza... |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. clown n/t |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Most of what I said is now public knowledge... |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 09:59 AM Response to Reply #64 |
109. All that has nothing to do with were the hitmen were located. |
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jollyreaper2112 (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 04:56 PM Response to Reply #55 |
73. hey |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #55 |
121. Possibly the most insane post ever on DU |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 11:42 PM Response to Reply #121 |
130. I'm having fun by the way. |
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PhilipShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
63. Has any JFK conspiracy theory people gone over the Jack Ruby... |
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jollyreaper2112 (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. I think so |
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PhilipShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 03:42 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Amazing Trick Photography |
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PhilipShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. A Nixon-Ruby Connection |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
68. Posner is a shepherd. |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
77. HOT POTATO ISSUE -- belongs in the conspiracy theory wastebasket. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #77 |
108. Seeing the replies and the nr of recs. - this is not a hot potato |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
78. oh no, you have let the nutters out... |
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maveric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:30 PM Response to Reply #78 |
89. "Nutters"? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #78 |
123. The Lunatics are On The Grass(y Knoll) |
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Ex Lion Tamer (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
87. Simply read the Illuminatus trilogy. |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
88. One of the most telling pieces of film comes when Oswald was |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #88 |
122. A large number of police showed uip because he matched the description |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #122 |
127. However, witnesses at the time of Tippets murder said there were |
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liberal renegade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
90. Where was GHWB on that tragic day? |
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California Griz (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 12:17 AM Response to Reply #90 |
105. The agent was called away from his post behind JFK |
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PhilipShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
92. Any twin Jack Ruby JFK Conspiracy theories? |
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misternormal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
93. If the bullet that struck JFK in the head was from the back and above... |
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Liberal OIF Vet (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Very good question. |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
97. WHY. DOES. IT. MATTER. |
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misternormal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:55 PM Response to Reply #97 |
103. How??? |
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riverdale (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 12:41 AM Response to Reply #103 |
106. ee |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
110. As Jackie waves...notice the missing Agent... |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
119. Back and to the left .... Back and to the left .... |
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Liberal OIF Vet (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #119 |
124. I will believe my lying eyes thank you very much! |
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Horseradish (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #119 |
129. Check the autopsy photos (before & after ... wink wink) |
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