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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:33 AM Original message |
Affidavit: McVeigh had high-level help |
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itsmesgd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
1. no tin foil hat, but damn they fried McVeigh really quick |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I wonder if KO knows about this - I have the feeling the only reason I saw this is because it was a |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I been wondering about the speed of that execution |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. McVeigh didn't appeal - |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. He did not pass go or collect 200 hundred dollars |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Do we know for sure that he's dead? If they lock a guy up for |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 09:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
69. Good one. |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 09:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
63. No, that isn't the case; if you waive all of your appeals, |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
39. Appeals are automatic in death penalty cases |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 06:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Correct, however ... |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #43 |
64. McVeigh made it clear to his legal team that he didn't want |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:37 PM Response to Reply #64 |
75. Precisely n/t |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
47. Uh, it was lethal injection and it took six years... |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:07 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Man, that must have sucked. |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. LOL |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 09:47 PM Response to Reply #50 |
70. Oh, good, good |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #50 |
78. Hahaha! |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #47 |
81. It was only 4 years between conviction |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
72. I was thinking the same thing... this is a "shoot first and ask questions later" situation. |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
3. MORE |
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itsmesgd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. tin foil hat time: |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. It's already on the Net |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 10:06 AM Response to Reply #27 |
80. Terry Nichols first wife... |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
36. I'm glad to know |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
5. And the death penalty silenced McVeigh forever. Mission Accomplished. |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
46. Yes. |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Actually I wasn't hinting at anything like that at all. |
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Bushwick Bill (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
8. I wouldn't be surprised at all |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. wasn't aware of this: |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. Well don't be so cryptic. Emad Salem inflitrated the Blind |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:27 PM Response to Reply #22 |
73. During the Fitz trial, The Blind Sheikh revealed threats to fly planes into the WTC and GW Bridge. |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
11. So maybe this was supposed to be the "Pearl Harbor" |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
49. Yes. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #11 |
62. Try this on for size.... |
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JoseNarof (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
12. I've always been suspicious |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. welcome to DU |
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JoseNarof (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Thank you kind person |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Most welcome |
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godless (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
56. Didn't get the full story??? LOL! It doesn't strike anybody as |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 09:36 PM Response to Reply #56 |
66. Yes, and Jews were warned to stay away from |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
13. If Nichols filed an affidavit in a public case, someone must have a copy of it .... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
14. Richard Clarke doesn't discount possiblity that Nichols met with alQaida operatives |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:20 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. That opens a whole can of worms regarding other terror attacks. |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. I think Peter Lance talks about this too. |
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Ezlivin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
42. "[C]redible reports that unexploded devices were found..." |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #42 |
55. Yup, this proves it. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #55 |
74. Why do you think this has anything to do with Clinton? |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
31. If true that links McVeigh to the CIA. But then |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
20. Give me an f-ing break ... |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. temper, temper |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
38. Think that was rude? |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
23. I have always believed that he had help |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. I do not know |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
24. Jose Padilla = OK's "John Doe" |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. OH MY! |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Jaw hit floor. nt |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 06:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
44. But he's only about 25 NOW -- 21 or less when originally picked up |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:22 PM Response to Reply #44 |
53. Yer, right. Scratch that idea. Maybe it |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. I believe he was born in 1970. |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Sorry, I just don't think he's that old. Only in his 20s NOW, I'm |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Born October 18, 1970... |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #61 |
82. Okay, I stand corrected. Thanks for the info |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 08:30 PM Response to Reply #44 |
60. Oh I feel silly now |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 09:07 AM Response to Reply #60 |
77. Why...his age works, according to the other poster |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 09:21 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Missed that - the similarities are stunning! |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
28. I can't believe this hasn't been moved to th 9/11 cellar yet. |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Maybe because it was posted in the Salt Lake Tribune and was about OK not 9/11? |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
30. Well, they did find a copy of "The Turner Diaries" in |
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reprehensor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
33. Deseret News gives more detail: |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Thank you for this! We're neighbors, aren't we? My memory sucks. |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
37. This is what Gore Vidal told Amy Goodman, May 2003 |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
40. Watch these local news reports from the day of the tragedy. |
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AnotherDreamWeaver (917 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
41. Gore Vidal wrote in Vanity Fair Sept/2001 |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
45. So, any idea (anyone) of the purpose or motive?? |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. The FBI claimed that "The Turner diaries" were the inspiration |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. Thanks |
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blockhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
48. Terry Nichols: |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
65. I wonder if he was an MK-Ultra victim. eom |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
67. And we should believe what Terry Nichols |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #67 |
83. Agreed, but with what is known of our governments complicity in so |
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StrictlyRockers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
68. From what I have read, there is a lot of evidence pointing to gov't involvement. |
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mikelewis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
71. Watch Brig. General Ben Partin's take on Oklahoma City... Absolutely Amazing... |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
76. I've wondered that about OK City... |
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