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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 07:32 AM
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Noam Chomsky Strongly Praises Mike Gravel
Alone among members of Congress, Senator Mike Gravel had the courage to take a stand that not only helped bring the atrocious Indochina wars to an end, but also made a great contribution to breaking the wall of secrecy that governments erect to protect themselves from their own citizens. I am of course referring to his release of the Pentagon Papers, properly called "the Gravel edition," which provided the public with a unique opportunity to become educated about affairs of state.

In the years since, Gravel has continued to show the same moral integrity and courage, particularly with regard to war and aggression, the severe threat of nuclear war, the destructive impact of the military-industrial complex on American democracy, and the programs of aggressive militarism that have led even Europeans to rank the US as the greatest threat to world peace, far above Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, or other states assigned this role in the US doctrinal system. It may be that these consistent and honorable commitments are responsible for his being largely excluded from the media, even from presidential debates. And the same integrity and courage should be an inspiration for people who care about their country, the fate of its people, and its role in the world.

Noam Chomsky


http://www.gravel2008.us/content/noam-chomsky-applauds-senator-gravels-past-and-present-accomplishments

The Noaminator has spoken - and I agree with him. :)
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 07:38 AM
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1. Which is exactly why Gravel's campaign will never gain traction through
MSM. His positions are a threat to the status quo (creeping fascism - which has done more than "creep" in the last 7 years!!!).
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 07:43 AM
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2. Yes, he barely exists as far as MSM is concerned
And when he does exist, it's as a joke.

That's the price he has to pay for telling people the truth.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:12 AM
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5. Stranger still - he barely exist here - where people think "we're the left of everybody"
when in fact they were merely seduced by one campaign...
I wouldn't even mind so much that he doesn't have support here - as I am upset at the derision I've seen...Just like the MSM....
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:16 AM
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6. I know - I was really surprised by it as well
I expected to see at least a little support for Gravel here, considering that he advocates progressive values and tells the truth without reservation. But, as you pointed out, what I actually saw was a lot of ridicule and dismissal not much different from what the MSM was pushing.

I've changed my avatar to a Gravel one, to show that some people here at DU do like Mike.
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:23 AM
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9. It's how the "cult of personality" is used to marginalize people, mainly dissenters
The focus of MSM is the personality and NOT ideas and positions. The same thing happens with Kucinich. He may get a little more attention than Gravel because he ran in '04, but not much more.
I think, people in general at DU have a little more savy than the general population but are still prone to getting sucked into the cult of personality current.
Yes, Obama is a great speaker but what about the fact that he is taking so much money from special interests? Any one who has paid attention knows that he WILL OWE THEM and will do little to advance the cause of health care for all, because the two forces are opposing (for profit institutions v. the right to healthcare).
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:27 AM
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11. I donated to Mike Gravel very early. n/t
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:05 PM
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17. I think I'll help with the signatures collection
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:05 AM
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3. What has Noam Chomsky got to do with the Democratic Party?
Why don't you ask Ralph Nader which Democrat he feels is best? Noam Chomsky is a fine good man but if you think he is a guide for the Democrats please explain why? He certainly isn't a Democrat himself.
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:08 AM
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4. He is a progressive.
If you don't think a leading advocate of progressive values is relevant to Democrats, that's your call to make.

Why not help me tar and feather the Ron Paul supporters around here pimping a Republican?
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:22 AM
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8. The split between progressive/activist minded people, and average "dems" speaks volumes
About where we're at right now ... unfortunately.
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:30 AM
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14. Yes, it does.
I'm not a big fan of knocking down "centrist" or "moderate" dems, but eventually this split you're talking about will have to be addressed in some meaningful way.

In my view, there are Democrats who think for themselves most of the time, and there are those who allow culture and the media to have a lot of influence on them. Some people may be put off by that, but in my opinion it's the plain truth.

Of course, nobody in the second category is going to recognize or acknowledge it - and some people who might think they are in the first category really aren't. That's just how human psychology works, so I'm at a bit of a loss as to how it can ever really be resolved.

I guess we just have to keep doing our best and trust that every little bit helps.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:33 AM
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15. The trouble is, when one outlines how this tends to occur in social systems, they are ridiculed
Especially for being "conspiracy theorists." The mods and name branders love to cozy up to that empty defense when confronted with the possibility that they've been manipulated and duped into abiding a media induced unreality.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:06 PM
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18. A truly depressing thought
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:30 AM
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16. I know. It's very sad that the Dem party has moved so far right.
It's hard to believe that liberal lefties
are, well, ermm... so left out these days.

We're the only voice of reason in a country
gone totally insane due to the influence
of corporations and destructive memes that
infiltrate the collective consciousness.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:08 PM
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20. Yup. Once upon a time, someone like Gravel was elected senator. Now, Welstone
dies mysteriously, his funeral is used as red meat for RW, then he's promptly forgotten...No real progressive in the senate since - Feingold isn't quite there, although is the best we've got.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:19 PM
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21. Sure
But how much attention do the candidates that represent the progressive left of the Democratic party get?

The media outlets declared who the 'front runners' were 3 months before any of the primaries with polls based on. They actually started reporting on some of them years before anyone declared an intention to run. Particularly in the case of both Hillary and Obama.

As far as the "second tier" goes the various media outlets were actually giving Biden, who polled far lower than Edwards, more time and far more respectful coverage, at least until Iowa. Again and again we have been pundit-hammered with how smart he is in foreign policy While producing very little actual evidence of it.

For instance, I am not a "foreign policy genius" yet in the run up to the war I (along with many of the people that post here) knew that most of the "evidence" was rubbish. If Biden was such a genius how could he not be aware of what I was?

It seems absolutely a must that the corporate media must express all the possible viewpoints of the conservative-centrist democrats, while discussing haircuts, UFO's, or "how crazy they are" with regards to the progressive candidates.

I am annoyed. I am even more annoyed at how angry all the supporters here of the front runners are at those of us that choose "second tier candidates" and how critical we are of the "first tier." Honestly, if Gravel, Kucinich, or Richardson got equal press back in April we may be having a different conversation. Hell we might even be having an actual POLICY discussion, instead of a "your guy is crazy and smells bad" kind of high school nonsense.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:20 AM
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7. My wife heard Gravel speak early on and supports him, even over Kucinich
I love this:
"...also made a great contribution to breaking the wall of secrecy that governments erect to protect themselves from their own citizens."

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Mudoria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:23 AM
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10. nt
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 08:24 AM by Mudoria
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Independent_Patriot Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:28 AM
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12. Great candidate and an even greater debater.
Their on-air fracas notwithstanding, Mike Gravel is the closest thing to a Malloy presidential candidate I’ve ever witnessed. What a firebreather and a showman! Of all the candidates, Gravel’s plainspoken no-nonsense presence is missed the most from the debate stage.

I only wish more of the candidates contained such an indefatigable fighting spirit. Biden, despite being a subsidiary of big banking, has it in spades as well. Edwards is getting there...but already faces being tarnish by the media as "angry" and like "Howard Dean." x(

Chomsky's endorsement while coming late in the game isn't entirely surprising. Didn't he help edit "The Pentagon Papers"?
Ralph Nader has also been intermittently writing pro-Gravel articles for nearly a year now, as well as writing the intro to Gravel's forthcoming tome.

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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:30 AM
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13. Hence not a word about him in the mainline media - don't want to send the WRONG message!
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:08 PM
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19. I would happily vote for Mike Gravel if he were nominated.
Which is a helluva lot more than I can say for the top three.
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