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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:14 PM
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You SAY you want a revolution
For over 7 years now, I've been listening to people say that real change was needed to bring our country back from the brink.
In 2004 we were literally on the edge. It's now 2008. We aren't on the edge anymore. We're overboard. The country is clinging to
deflating life rafts. Our economy is in shambles, the housing market is in turmoil and our earth is breaking down before our very eyes.
Corporate America has been running our country for eight LONG years. We've suffered one tremendous setback after another.

It is a very dangerous time. Decisions we make now will affect not only our futures, but those of our children, families & friends.
We are already fighting an uphill battle against opponents who have shown time and again that they will lie, cheat and steal to "win".
Washington D.C. is like a cancer. The political machine is broken. None of them are truly FOR us. Our country is flat lining and all they care
about is money and power.

John Edwards was the ONLY candidate to come forward right out of the gate and say he would NOT be bought by Corporate America.
He was the one with the best earth plan. He is the one with the best poverty plan. He is the one with the best health care plan.
He's putting himself out there to deal with all of the issues that we have said we want on the table for the last seven years.
Every poll that has been put together has shown Edwards has the best chance of winning against any Republican that they run.
He's giving us everything we wanted. He's a strong candidate, ready to fight for us.

Since the MSM is ignoring him, people aren't voting for him because they think that means he isn't viable.
Think about that... You are getting your information (or lack thereof) from the MSM. The same MSM that has perpetuated
the myriad of lies the Rethugs have been feeding us for years. We could not trust them to report accurately when Gore WON in 2000,we could
not trust them to do real reporting as we were being forced in to a false war, and we can
not expect them to report on the best candidate in 2008. They are bought and paid for. Corporate shills and hacks.
It makes far more sense for the MSM to stick with what they know.

So here we are. John Edwards wont get any traction because the MSM wont let him & people who know he would be the best President
will instead vote like it is a high school popularity contest. It's really disheartening to look ahead and see that we are about to get 4 MORE years
of the same old shit. Nothing will change. Washington stays the same in fact, the termimal illness that is the DC political machine will continue to grow.
We aren't going to get any do overs here. When we vote for the wrong candidate, we are stuck.

People SAID they wanted a revolution. But when the time came, they were led by the likes of Chris Matthews & Bill O'Reilly. They listened to the MSM
tell them who the most popular contestant was. Will we have anyone but ourselves to blame when nothing changes? I think not.

Come election day I'll be plugging my nose and either voting for the Dynasty or the guy that lets Bigots campaign for him. I can hardly wait.

I'm sure there will be some piling on here. I really could not care less. I'm not upset that MY candidate is going to end up losing.
I'm upset that THE BEST HOPE for OUR FUTURE will not be able to do anything for us because WE WONT HELP OURSELVES.


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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:17 PM
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1. Exploding head #4
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 09:19 PM by xultar
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:18 PM
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2. Dang, I wanted to be #4
It's my lucky number
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:19 PM
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4. You got it...I'll edit.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:37 PM
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13. For the record, my head isn't exploding. I'm just saddened that
people talked the talk but are not walking the walk.
They bought in to Oprah & MSM shit.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 06:53 PM
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25. Can I have an exploding head please?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:18 PM
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3. No piling on from me. I guess we get what we deserve or at least I've heard that.
:shrug:
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:20 PM
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5. I'm disappointed too. Couch potato electorate. I think Edwards needs to follow Gore's example
We need a strong voice to head a movement outside the political sphere, to hold the government to account. The party system doesn't seem to be able to do that anymore.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:27 PM
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9. The party system is Fubar.
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shoopnyc Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:21 PM
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6. Edwards mistake was throwing in with Obama...
...at the last debate. It looked bad.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:25 PM
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8. ...
:eyes:
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:24 PM
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7. At this point it makes no difference
because they are stealing the election for the corporates hacks,

whether you bring change or not you have diebold,

If I where Edwards, thats who he should be picking a fight with, they have become part of the fucked
up system.
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:29 PM
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10. Yep, I don't understand why when the revolution finally starts no one shows up.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:31 PM
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11. They only said they wanted a revolution cause it was popular to say at the time
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 09:40 PM by LibraLiz1973
Now it's back to same ol' same ol'
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:37 PM
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12. Oh come on! This is a three way contest, the republicans don't
even come close to the race we've got going. JE isn't ready to throw in the towel and neither should his supporters. You obviously have missed the nationwide rise in his numbers, this is the real surge, not the one going on in Iraq, a real one taking place as we speak.

Edwards is the candidate for change. Iowa and NH are not the deciders in this race, this will be going on down to the wire.
The numbers in OH & FL project John as the winner.....:)

Let us also remmber that Diebold machines rule in NH...something to keep in mind. ;)
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:38 PM
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From your mouth...
I pray mother earth, I really really do.

I am just so digusted to see the #'s in NH right now.
Why are people so fucking gullible?
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:38 PM
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15. From your mouth...
I pray mother earth, I really really do.

I am just so digusted to see the #'s in NH right now.
Why are people so fucking gullible?
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:37 PM
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14. Lucky Exploding Head #13!
You just took (a lot!) of words right outta my mouth! Thanks for laying it out so succinctly!
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:43 PM
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16. : ` )
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:58 PM
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17. I totally agree!
My advice is to find the region of the country you like best and lobby for secession. If it becomes an Obama or Clinton regime, then he or she is doomed to be our country's version of Gorbachev, presiding over a dying nation.


Hail Cascadia!
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Psyop Samurai Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:13 PM
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18. I agree, but it is inevitable...
...so long as people refuse to disengage from the perception management matrix, it will be so.

:-(
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:43 PM
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19. Word.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:46 PM
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20. I think a Hillary win tonight actually helps
John Edwards stay in this thing.

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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:49 PM
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21. he can only get so far if people wont fight for the change
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:52 AM
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22. Right. REAL change always comes from the people, not TPTB.
For instance, the abolition of slavery, the Civil Rights movement, the Women's movement.

Did TPTB suddenly wake up one day, and say, "Gee, slavery's not fair to the slaves,"

or "Gee, it's not fair the nonwhites/women don't have the same rights as whites/men."


"Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did, and it never will."
--- Frederick Douglass
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:53 AM
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23. Federal elections are a poor place to look for revolution.
So are all elections.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 06:51 PM
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24. There is truth there.
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