Do the close numbers between Obama & Clinton give Edwards some leverage as the spoiler?

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Tue Jan-08-08 10:52 PM
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Do the close numbers between Obama & Clinton give Edwards some leverage as the spoiler?

Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 10:52 PM by bob_weaver

Does it give him some power to negotiate anything?

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Tue Jan-08-08 10:53 PM
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1. Possibly. He certainly helped Clinton today

The anti-Clinton vote is still fractured with both of them in it.

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Tue Jan-08-08 10:53 PM
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2. what would he negotiate?

I think he would be in either administration, I don;t think they'd want him just because he seems pretty independent and on his own agenda. Policy-wise, I don't know what he would want.

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Tue Jan-08-08 10:54 PM
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3. VP or AG

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OzarkDem

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Tue Jan-08-08 11:15 PM
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13. No way

he's twice as qualified as either of his opponents. He's not playing the DC game, he really wants to make a difference.

I can't imagine too many hard working, commited people who would be willing to serve as Veep under Obama, probably not even Clinton.

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Wed Jan-09-08 12:02 AM
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19. not Attorney General either?

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napi21

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Tue Jan-08-08 10:56 PM
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6. If...and it's a BIG IF...this goes to a brokered convention, he could be

a King Maker. He will have a certain # of delegates that may be needed for any one candidate to get the nomination.

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Tue Jan-08-08 10:55 PM
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4. In a word?

No.

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...of J.Temperance

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Tue Jan-08-08 10:55 PM
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5. Edwards was

So obsessed with bashing Senator Clinton, for some odd reason Edwards has become VERY angry, he's the Angry Candidate, why I don't know....but he was so consumed by trying to do Hillary in, that he actually only succeeded in splitting the anti-Hillary vote with Obama, which is another reason why Senator Clinton won New Hampshire tonight.

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napi21

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Tue Jan-08-08 11:00 PM
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8. I was impressed with Edwards' anger. I finally saw the trial lawyer who won

so many court cases! What I heard was him slamming the insurance companies, and the companies who shipped all our jobs out of the country. Sure he threw some digs at his opponents, but his anger (finally) made me a supporter!

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Tue Jan-08-08 11:07 PM
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9. The majority of people

Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 11:07 PM by ...of J.Temperance

Don't like Angry Candidates, we saw that also in 2004 and it was a reason why Howard Dean didn't win in the Primaries.

People don't like politicians that rant, rave, screech and shout in peoples' faces.

John Edwards was my candidate in 2004 and he WASN'T THIS angry, I don't know whats happened to him, and for some reason he seems to be taking out his anger on Senator Clinton....and it's really backfiring on him.

Personally I think Edwards will drop out soon after Super Tuesday, he's getting no traction in the polls and he's got hardly any money in his campaign coffers.

On Edit: Dammit spelling error

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OzarkDem

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Tue Jan-08-08 11:13 PM
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That doesn't apply to Edwards

He expresses many ranges of emotion in his speeches, including passion, anger and a lot of hope and optimism. Any anger he expresses is an extension of his sincerity, its not hostility. Voters do relate to that, especially when they're being hurt by the economy and are worried about their future.

This election isn't going to be about being nice, not making waves. Voters want to hear someone who sincerely expresses their commitment to fix problems and get the country back on track. They're not in the mood for mealy mouthed platitudes or lectures about morality.

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Tue Jan-08-08 11:23 PM
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16. John Edwards should reserve his anger for the Republican Party

And he should direct his anger at them and their band of borderline insane Presidential candidates....INSTEAD of directing his anger towards Senator Clinton, and some of Edwards' attacks have been somewhat personal as well.

The Republicans are the enemy, not Senator Clinton.

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OzarkDem

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Tue Jan-08-08 11:41 PM
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17. You should listen to his speeches sometime

that is who he is directing it towards, GOP.

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Tue Jan-08-08 11:14 PM
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12. Should he tone down the anger?

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OzarkDem

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Tue Jan-08-08 11:16 PM
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14. What anger?

its passion and righteous indignation and its coupled with optimism and a plan for the future. Pretty good combination.

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Wed Jan-09-08 12:00 AM
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18. I agree, but posts #8 and #9 call it anger. On the McLaughlin group last Sunday,

a show I rarely watch but just happened to turn to it, they dismissed Edwards with the simple conclusion "angry populism isn't the right message this year." I couldn't believe that, because I think that is close to a description of exactly what people are feeling.

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Le Taz Hot

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Tue Jan-08-08 10:57 PM
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7. He needs to stay in until February 5.

I think the larger states will give Edwards a much better showing. Other than NY, the Eastern Seaboard seems to love that safe, status quo vote.

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Tue Jan-08-08 11:13 PM
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11. I sure hope so - I'm planning to vote for him on Feb. 5 and I hope he's still in it then.

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Tue Jan-08-08 11:09 PM
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10. No...

From what i've seen on here, most Edwards supporters lean both ways if he drops out of the race.. Obama might get 60%, Hillary 40% - but I'm not sure if that would have been enough in NH tonight.

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OzarkDem

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Tue Jan-08-08 11:19 PM
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15. The cloak of inevitability has been removed

its an open race now, not promised to anyone. Both front runners have been shown to be vulnerable and when larger states come into play, its up for grabs.

Its also demonstrated very well that the news media and corporate money aren't going to have the influence over voters they once had. That's very good news.

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