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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 09:28 PM
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The cover up worked
To be fair, it is likely that no one broke the law when they outed Ms. Plame. Largely that is due to the fact that no one thought such a law was needed. No one figured that someone would out a CIA agent would be outed for a political vendetta instead of for the purposes of spying. So because what Rove and company did was so dispicable, it isn't a crime. So why should Libby be in jail for a few years? Because the cover up worked.

Had Libby not lied, it is likely we would have found out about Rove and his dispicable behavior well before Bush was reelected. In a close election it might have made a difference. And the administration just could have that. So Libby lied. Listen to the tapes. Even the most clueless observer can tell the man is lying.

He didn't lie for fear of jail. He lied because he knew the truth would cost him his job, and might cost Cheney his. And his lies worked. By lying to the grand jury he kept the truth from getting out before the election. By keeping the truth from coming out, he helped Bush keep his job.

Libby did the crime, he needs to do the time. He stole more than the truth. He stole our ability to hold his bosses accountable for their borderline treasonous behavior. Instead of a moment of accountability, we got a moment of stealing. Libby is responsible for that. He deserves to go to jail for that behavior.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 09:31 PM
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1. Are you sure this thing is going to end with Libby?
At the very least we'll have the Wilson's civil trial.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 09:33 PM
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2. Rove evidently got to change his testimony so he isn't going to be charged
Cheney is likely untouchable. The civil suit, while satisfying, is unlikely to lead to jail time unless someone lies during it.
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ohioINC Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 09:58 PM
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9. and the cash keeps rolling in
Cheney will make several fortunes off of the Iraq disaster.
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ohioINC Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 09:35 PM
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3. Libby will be acquitted or get off easy
He can only hope that Dick's beat up ticker lasts long enough to pay him back.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 09:37 PM
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4. I can't imagine an aquittal
I literally can't. The tapes speak volumes.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 09:38 PM
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5. It makes no difference if it's political.
Why would it?
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 09:42 PM
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6. because the law which covers this mentions
either doing so for money, which clearly wasn't done, or doing so to a foreign country, which also wasn't done. I would assume this was to keep journalists and honest sources out of jail. This time it back fired.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 09:44 PM
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7. The important thing here to remember is that it doesn't have to be illegal...
to be impeachable. This was clearly a crime against America, and it was a part of a much larger crime.

I hope the jury nails the bastard if the evidence they witnessed in court says they should.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 09:47 PM
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8. eh -- The Espionage Act qualifies as a law (that was broken) for me

http://citizenspook.blogspot.com/2007/02/its-espionage-stupid.html


793 of The Espionage Act only requires, for conviction:

1. that Plame's status at the CIA was "related to the national defense"
2. that the leaker(s) had "reason to believe" such information "could be used to the injury of the United States"
3. that the person this information was leaked to was not "entitled to receive" the information

794 of The Espionage Act only requires, for conviction:

1. that Plame's status at the CIA was "related to the national defense"
2. that the leaker(s) had "reason to believe" such information "is to be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of a foreign nation"

Seeing as how Fitzgerald has directly stated that this Statute is in play, the public needs the Espionage Act to be debated with the same sickening repetition as the virtually irrelevant IIPA. The liberal bloggers need to stop getting into arguments about "classifed vs covert" and start hitting the phrases contained in The Espionage Act.

If her status was actually covert, then this evidence will simply provide more weight to the sentence of those convicted, but whether she was "covert" is not a necessary element for criminal violations of The Espionage Act.

Plame's job was undeniably directly "related to the national defense". The CIA was created to defend the nation. Duh. It's the espionage, stupid.

People need to stop thinking that Plame was outed to bitch slap her hubby. The President and his crime family knew this was a serious crime which might possibly bring life in prison or even the death penalty. They took a calculated risk. The real question is "why?


(no copyright per Citizenspook)
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