Edwards is not competitive in South Carolina

Why do I mention this? Because of the stream of comments today about how Kerry is stabbing him in the back by endorsing Obama in SC.

Edwards hasn't polled above 15% in months. Yeah, yeah, polls aren't worth shit, but the truth is simple: The AA community comprises 50% of dem primary voters. Obama gets the lion's share. Clinton gets the rest. That leaves 50% to be split 3 ways. It's a two person race in SC.

The likely explanation for Kerry's announcing his support for Obama in SC is that he hopes to help him with white voters and in particular, white men.

Kerry doesn't owe and fidelity to Edwards. I understand that Edwards supporters are stung over this endorsement, but logically, it's not even about Edwards as much as it's about Obama and Clinton.

I didn't actually check it out, but I'll take your word for it. I edited it to reflect that Edwards hasn't polled above 15% in months.

so imo kerry did the right thing

and got burned. After 04, I understand why he tried that strategy. It just didn't work though.

in which to make his endorsement, but that says more about Kerry than either Obama or Edwards.

Personally, I think Kerry's endorsement is going to hurt Obama with some independents and repubs who are crossing over to vote for change. Maybe not so much in SC, but Obama needs to run on his own and distance himself from the past as much as possible to win as many of those votes as he can, imo.

I put what's in the best interest for the country ahead of personal ties. So did Kerry.

As far as Edwards and SC, I'm not putting too much weight on the polls and pundits - but, if JE does not win there or Nevada, he is gonna have a hell of a time getting any momentum by Super Tuesday.

A non-win anywhere may be the beginning of the end of his campaign - which would be unfortunate.

It is very simple. Kerry is endorsing Obama because Kerry and Obama are very, very similar in their outlooks on politics.

If you liked Kerry backing down from counting votes in the stolen election of 2004, essentially backing away from a fight, then you will understand why he is backing the big O. Neither men see stolen elections as worth fighting for. Kerry is not a fighter when it comes to determining what the people want and neither is Obama.

They are two peas in a pod in a lets all be bipartisan and not investigate the bushies kind of way.

I am a very loyal Edwards supporter. I don't think many Edwards supporters expected Kerry to endorse Edwards. Would it have been nice? Sure. It would have been shocking though. I NEVER thought Kerry would endorse Edwards.

I'm THRILLED he endorsed Obama over Clinton.

So....you can take that knife you are trying to dig in my back out now, OK?????

I'm just trying to present factual information and an opinion based on that information.

You see very little of what Edwards supporters really say or think. The main people bitching about Kerry's endorsement aren't even Edwards supporters!

If you want factual....then you must know that John Edwards NEVER expected John Kerry to support him.

Factual? THIS IS NO FREAKIN' SURPRISE!!!!!

you put erroneous data in your OP (Edwards has never polled above 15% in SC) and then when called on it, you admit you "didn't check". But we are expected to believe this is just a presentation of cold hard facts with no agenda on your part. Huh.

really kicked into gear- and he may or may not have polled higher than that a year or ago. The point is the same: He's not viable in SC. He hasn't been viable in SC since the campaigns really got going. It's simple stuff.

He's been between 7% and 18% since then.

http://www.pollster.com/08-SC-Dem-Pres-Primary.php

can we agree that the polls aren't infallible by any means, especially after what happened in New Hampshire?

of course it does.

I also don't see how Kerry helps much with white men in South Carolina, but I'll take your word for it.

He doesn't owe fidelity to Edwards by any means, but they were running mates, and holding off on endorsing for a month or so would have been a classier move on his part IMO.

Kerry's probably just doing what he thinks is right, but I don't agree with it at all for whatever it's worth.

bullshittery