Kerry deciding to endorse Obama isn't just a slap to Edwards. It also slaps Clinton.

Edwards was his running mate in 2004. So right there his endorsing Obama now is a slap. And a pathetic one at that.
Add to that the fact that Kerry's biggest campaign rally of '04 took place here in Philadelphia when Bill Clinton made his first appearance after his heart surgery in support of Kerry.

Not to mention the fact that Chelsea campaigned for him.
http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/apnews/stories/103004/D862119G2.shtml

I bet John & Bill both wish they never had wasted their time on Kerry. It is baffling that he would throw and endorsement out this early in the game.









On Edit: Naturally, we all knew that Kerry would not endorse Edwards. John & Elizabeth both knew he never would. Personally, I think Kerry is jealous that John has 85 thousand times more personality & drive for the American people than he himself has. But I think him deciding to endorse now is pathetic and obnoxious. It is STILL a 3 party race & since all 3 of the people involved actively campaigned for or with him in 2004, I think he had a moral obligation to wait until it was down to 1. Like Al Gore is doing.

Be gracious and congratulate Obama and his supporters. If Edwards or Clinton had earned his endorsement they would have it....but remember his endorsement is not the be all and end all of this election.

I was gracious when I voted for Kerry, even though I thought he was a shit candidate.
His endorsement is certainly NOT the be all and end all. But it IS pathetic and obnoxious.
Right now I find myself glad he didn't win in 2004. He's as big an asshole as Bush.

It's all about ego- just like Bush.

This just turned my stomach to Kerry forever.

not sure why he would endorse Edwards.....

I know atleast three things i think weakened their bid that can be placed on Edwards

1: Edwards refused to use Kerry's campaign message at the convention, and instead used his own.
2: He refused to play the traditional VP role of attack dog
3: He seemed quite invisible a lot of the times Kerry was under attack(aka not defending)

Kerry was the nominee. It was his campaign and he was in charge of the decisions.
Edwards WANTED to attack- Kerry thought they should not.
Edwards thought they especially should have fought back HARD on the swift boating issue. Kerry did not.
Edwards wanted to fight so all the votes were counted. Kerry did not.

Not all VP candidates are attack dogs. That's Bush style.
Edwards did the absolute best he could with what little he was allowed to do.
Kerry lost that election for himself when he didn't do what he SAID he would
and fight for all votes to be counted.

To this day I want my contributions back.

N/T

rollin eyes....

I think it might hurt as much as it would help Edwards in the South....after two of the last people to endorse Obama , Bradley and Kerry, were loosers.

How he gets any legislative work done while wielding nunchuks and blades, is beyond me. :shrug: MKJ

one bit of difference to any voters.

That alone is nearly enough for me to throw her under the bus, but not quite.

Meanwhile, LIEberman has endorsed Insane McCain anyway.

they seem to take turns betraying us.

general election in CT. She donated money and lent him staff members. Like virtually every other Dem Senator she supported Lieberman in the primary race.

Thanks for setting me straight on this! I am, after all, wrong 1/12 of the time.

Mrs. Clinton Offers to Raise Money for Lamont Campaign
By JENNIFER MEDINA
Published: August 26, 2006
The Republican Party has tried to use Ned Lamont’s primary victory in Connecticut as evidence that an antiwar fringe has captured the Democratic Party.


NEW HAVEN, Aug. 25 — In a private meeting at her Chappaqua, N.Y., home on Friday, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton offered to help Ned Lamont in his battle to unseat Senator Joseph I. Lieberman by sponsoring a fund-raiser, campaigning by his side and lending him one of her top political strategists.

That strategist, Howard Wolfson, said Mrs. Clinton wanted to throw her considerable political weight behind Mr. Lamont because the national Republican Party “is clearly invested in Ned Lamont’s defeat.”

“I think they are going to do what they can to see him defeated,” Mr. Wolfson said, adding that he was particularly concerned with “Bush-Cheney talking points.”

<snip>

Mrs. Clinton, who has known Mr. Lieberman for several years and endorsed him in the primary, has already contributed $5,000 from her political action committee to Mr. Lamont. Former President Bill Clinton campaigned for Mr. Lieberman in the primary, but has been critical of the senator’s views on the war in Iraq in recent days.

More:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/26/nyregion/26lieberman.html?_r=1&oref=login
http://www.nytimes.com/glogin?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/26/nyregion/26lieberman.html&OQ=_rQ3D1&OP=2fafd7c5Q2FQ2AA,2Q2Aa7smp77FQ3CQ2AQ3CiiHQ2Ai@Q2AQ3CHQ2Av5p,OQ227vQ2AQ3CHjQ22,2,pC6volFCj

That's the kind of thing one doesn't tend to forget.

SO LAME

"Edwards had told Kerry he was going to share a story with him that he'd never told anyone else—that after his son Wade had been killed, he climbed onto the slab at the funeral home, laid there and hugged his body, and promised that he'd do all he could to make life better for people, to live up to Wade's ideals of service. Kerry was stunned, not moved, because, as he told me later, Edwards had recounted the same exact story to him, almost in the exact same words, a year or two before—and with the same preface, that he'd never shared the memory with anyone else."
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1626498-2,00.html

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were down here in Florida dissing Kerry, because, they did NOT want him to really win the presidency, because it would have spoiled THEIR plans........I live here I saw it, that is also why Edwards hates
Clinton/LIEberman and why Edwards endorsed Lamont

The Clintons THINK they have it all fiqured out, they have MORE enemies in the Dem party for what they did, then in the ReTHUG party. That is why BigDog was rehabilitating Poppy Bush for awhile that is until POppy craped all over him, when he said he wouldn't be traveling with Bill around the world for Hillary
BWAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

if your are a Democrat. After that incident of the police tasering the questioner at his talk (while he stood by) and his refusal to fight for his Presidential election (when extra funds were there to do so), party members aren't behind him any more.

It's almost like Kerry ran to lose. His wife was married to a Republican in the past. I sometimes wonder if the party isn't recruiting to lose.

Kerry lost a lot of credibility when he refused to ensure that all votes counted.

We know that Kerry gave in and Edwards wanted to stand firm and make sure all votes mattered. This is a basic of living in America. You vote, your vote should be counted properly and it should matter, regardless if you vote for the candidate who ultimately wins or loses.

Without accurate vote counts, we have no country. Kerry obviously didn't think that my vote mattered, or anyone else's since he didn't stand firm and insist that every single vote be counted and credited properly.

he didn't fight to have all the votes counted.

I was wrong- because he just lost even more.

Since it seemed obvious his endorsement couldn't really HELP any candidate. But, it really can, a little bit.

But I find his thinking to be fatally flawed: all votes didn't count in 2004, and Barack is quite simply not the best candidate for President.

This was not a surprise to me at all. Really, a ho hum as far as I'm concerned.

But, it is nice to have something else to talk about other than The 24/7 Barack and Hillary Show that everyone seems to be stuck on. I swear, if Barack has a bowel movement, someone posts about it here on DU in less than a minute, and normally with lots of !!!!!!!!! after the subject. :eyes:

But considering Edwards was his running mate...yeah,confusing to say the least.Says more about him really than anyone else.

and not because of obligations.

It would save me a lot of time on garbage like this....

Or at least, the most likely to win a general election?


I'm kind of uncomfortable with your suggestion that Kerry should endorse Edwards or Clinton because he "owes" them.


(Full disclosure: I'm undecided between Obama and Edwards. All I know is that I don't want Hillary, or any other Clinton.)

Not Edwards or Clinton either.

.. but I have to admit, he's a long shot at this point.

For better or worse, it's probably going to be HRC or Obama.

That being the choice, I'd have to go with Obama, and perhaps that is what Kerry is thinking also.

and believing the media hype

.... because the media have marginalized him, and there really isn't anything he can do about it.

I haven't given up on him, but if doesn't win a primary soon it's over Johnny. If he had managed to win Iowa, things would be a lot different, but he didn't.

so people who know he is the right candidate are bailing

That was hilarious.

Please - the Clintons exerted the absolute MINIMUM POSSIBLE effort on behalf of Kerry in 2004, and THEN Hillary threw him under the bus after the "botched joke" when she and everyone else with a brain knew good and goddamn well he didn't "insult the troops" and you have the temerity to imply that he owes them anything? What a joke.

Just another bitter Edwards supporter who would not be posting this whiny-assed bullshit if Kerry had endorsed your candidate. God I'm glad I usually avoid GD if this is the level of discourse I can expect.

at all- at least until he was the nominee.

I think Kerry left a bad taste in many mouths and his endorsement may work against Obama more than
it would for.

I just don't think he needed to endorse now

She bought into the right-wing lie that he should apologize to the troops even though the target of his joke was obviously Bush.

I don't care who Kerry endorses, but I wasn't surprised it was Obama.

Kerry endorsing ANYONE other than Edwards is a kick in the nuts to Edwards. That's the ONLY story there.