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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:56 AM
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You do know that if Harry gets killed in Iraq, the war ends.
It's like that long called for stop sign that the neighborhood wants on a dangerous street corner, and it only arrives after a neighborhood kid is killed at that very corner.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:58 AM
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1. Short of an Acute Medical Emergency, I Wouldn't Think It Possible
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:02 AM
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2. We won't be able to leave until we catch Harry's killers!
"The Hunt for Harry's Killer" it will be a round the clock cable news wargasm for weeks until we give up trying to find the culprits, pull back from Baghdad and the other cities and nuke them to a fine magenta glow.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:04 AM
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3. I'm not so sure
Certainly the British people would insist on withdrawing all of their country's involvement. But the clinically insane people running our government and driving our national discourse would merely point to it as further evidence that the terrorists don't respect even the Annointed of Our God, justifying prolonging the slaughter and the spending. Always justifying more appropriations and spending.

It's beyond the ability of Congress to do much of anything about this. It's becoming the responsibility of the people to take direct action to derail these madmen.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:04 AM
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4. I doubt it
You think Bush would withdraw all troops because Harry was killed?
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:14 AM
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5. More likely he'd nuke Iraq nt
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:17 AM
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8. no
with this idiot, he'd nuke Tahiti.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:16 AM
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6. I doubt that the American chickenhawks would blink an eye.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:16 AM
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7. Perhaps for the UK, but they only have about 7000 troops there anyway
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:18 AM
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9. Only for the Brits. Americans would stay
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:39 AM
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10. Why would Bush back down over ANY dead Brit? he sure doesn't care about
dead Americans.............
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zara Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:54 AM
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11. Ends for the British Maybe.
Sunnis and Shiites care a whiff?
BushCo?
Don't think so.
This becomes yet another jujitsu reason for BushCo to stay the course. Do it for Harry.
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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:57 AM
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12. I just had a weird thought-
suppose the prince is Tilmaned? We have a bad record of dropping ordinance on the wrong people so it could certainly happen. What would that do to Brit/American relations?
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 12:00 PM
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13. nah
They'd just use him as a propoganda symbol like Jessica Lynch or Pat Tillman to get everyone to "Support the Troops". Can't have Harry die in vain can we?
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 12:02 PM
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14. Not necessarily, He might be used as a 'noble example'
In any case, any influence would be only on UK involvement; and the UK are already reducing their involvement.

British 'royals' these days have hardly any political influence at home, and none at all internationally.
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dragonlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:54 PM
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25. Don't forget he's the son of Princess Diana
She still has a profound place in the hearts of many people around the world that transcends the mere fact of royalty.
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 12:17 PM
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15. Money trumps peace. n/t
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 12:23 PM
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16. That's *why* Royals have always gone into every war until this one
I mean, I know a lot of people don't dig the royals here (and yeah, the idea of a royal family kind of creeps me out too), but they have been very consistent about serving in the military in wartime; even her majesty served in the womens' corps in WWII. If the war isn't worth a prince's life it's not with a shopkeeper's son's life either, and they know that.

It's part of the noblesse oblige idea that the whole monarchy thing is based on, and I've got to say I give Harry props for wanting to live up to his side of the bargain. Even if the queen or the princes don't have any real authority, these are "Royal" army units there in their names and he's right to say he shouldn't be kept out of the theatre of operations. Now, if you're going to say he can't be patrolling the streets because he'll put his fellows at a higher risk of ambush because he's a high-value target I could listen to that, but saying he can't go to Iraq at all is messed up and frankly I wonder if this flap has a lot to do with the timing of the withdrawl.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 05:14 PM
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21. Quite a contrast with our "royal" families
You know, the Bushes and Cheneys all had "other priorities" and they're sure as hell not about to send THEIR kids.

Bake
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:58 PM
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27. And Bush* wouldn't stop the war if Jenna had to go. He values profits. nt
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 12:31 PM
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17. Not Likely At All.
It would seem far more likely that his death would be used as the biggest propaganda tool yet. But I don't think there's any actual legitimacy in reality to the notion that his death would bring a halt to the war. Not by a longshot.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 12:33 PM
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18. I think the opposite. He will be held up as a martyr and a reason for the Brits
to carry on there.

I wouldn't put it past the BFEE from making that happen, either.

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 12:38 PM
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19. Deleting
Edited on Thu Feb-22-07 12:43 PM by WilliamPitt
He's commanding tanks. Impressive. My assumption was 0% correct after all.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 05:03 PM
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20. It could go the other way. Start a real blood feud. Revenge and all of that. nt
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 05:39 PM
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22. It would create a conspiracy industry unlike anything we've seen yet
There'd be so many theories about it, I think it would clog up the Internets tubes.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 05:41 PM
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23. A man in England was arrested today for driving
Edited on Thu Feb-22-07 05:44 PM by malaise
his truck with a sign accusing Blair of wanting Harry to get killed in Iraq.
Edit: sp. Trying to find a link.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 05:27 AM
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29. Chris Eubank, former boxing champion
Former world boxing champion Chris Eubank was arrested yesterday after driving his truck up and down Whitehall in a protest against the decision to send Prince Harry to serve in Iraq.

Eubank, dressed in a cream suit and silver tie, was arrested for an alleged breach of the peace and taken to Charing Cross police station after the horn-blaring protest involving a large, black lorry with his name emblazoned on the side.

A banner on the back of the truck proclaimed: "Blair, don't send our young prince to your catastrophic illegal war to make it look plausible."

Scotland Yard confirmed: "We have arrested a man in Whitehall for breach of the peace."

Eubank's lawyer, Mel Goldberg, said he was aware of his client's arrest but had no further details. Eubank, who lives in Hove, East Sussex, was seen on BBC News 24 talking to police officers before apparently becoming involved in an argument and being escorted to a police van.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/monarchy/story/0,,2019590,00.html
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 05:45 AM
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30. Thanks very much
Why was he arrested for that?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:44 AM
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31. "Breach of the peace" might mean the argument with the policeman
or the sounding of the horn when not a part of driving (it's explicitly against the Highway Code to use your horn other than to inform road users of your presence, so the police can stop you for it).
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 07:52 PM
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24. I asked DeepModem Dad, an Anglophile, what he thought would happen...
in the UK. "It would be devastating, and the end of the Labour Party."
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:56 PM
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26. I heard today that Harry is getting deployed to Iraq, but
Edited on Thu Feb-22-07 10:58 PM by Cleita
as a royal he has to go with his contingent of body guards. That ought to be interesting. We all talk about the twins going, but it seems that the same contingent of SS would have to accompany them as well.
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jerryme1 Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:05 PM
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28. More Justifcation
I can hear Rove spinning Harry's death now.....
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:57 AM
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32. Sorry, no. It would lead to more war.
The regime would use it as an excuse to escalate further in Iraq and invade 2 or 3 other countries besides. They have no concern whatsoever for human life, even a prince's. They care about money and power. That's it.
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