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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:14 PM
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Holy Shit. Do you think Chris Matthews HATES Hillary?
email from Media Matters:

The Weekly Update from Media Matters for America

MSNBC's Chris Matthews problem

I do not care which person is your candidate. I don't care what you think of Hillary Clinton as a potential president. What is being done in the press is akin to a pack of rabid 7th graders trying to haze the nerdy girl in school simply because they can. It has nothing to do with her qualifications -- it has to do with gender, and these lemming pundits think that it's perfectly acceptable because everyone is doing it, including women like Andrea Mitchell and Anne Kornblut.
-- Christy Hardin Smith, Firedoglake

"OK, let's put the gender thing in here. I love gender politics, guys."
-- Chris Matthews

The behavior Christy Hardin Smith describes has its epicenter on MSNBC's Hardball, where rarely a day goes by without host Chris Matthews sputtering and shouting about Hillary Clinton, often in terms that would give Bobby Riggs pause.

Put simply, Matthews behaves as though he is obsessed with Hillary Clinton. And not "obsessed" in a charming, mostly harmless, Lloyd-Dobler-with-a-boom-box kind of way. "Obsessed" in a this-person-needs-help kind of way.

More than six years ago, long before Hillary Clinton began running for president, the Philadelphia Inquirer magazine reported that, according to an MSNBC colleague, Matthews had said of Clinton: "I hate her. I hate her. All that she stands for."

Even before that, Matthews told the January 20, 2000, Hardball audience, "Hillary Clinton bugs a lot of guys, I mean, really bugs people like maybe me on occasion. I'm not going to take a firm position here, because the election is not coming up yet. But let me just say this, she drives some of us absolutely nuts."

Not that there was much chance his feelings would go unnoticed by even the most casual Hardball viewer.

Matthews has referred to Clinton as "She devil." He has repeatedly likened Clinton to "Nurse Ratched," referring to the "scheming, manipulative" character in One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest who "asserts arbitrary control simply because she can." He has called her "Madame Defarge." And he has described male politicians who have endorsed Clinton as "castratos in the eunuch chorus."

Matthews has compared Clinton to a "strip-teaser" and questioned whether she is "a convincing mom." He refers to Clinton's "cold eyes" and the "cold look" she supposedly gives people; he says she speaks in a "scolding manner" and is "going to tell us what to do."

Matthews frequently obsesses over Clinton's "clapping" -- which he describes as "Chinese." He describes Clinton's laugh as a "cackle" -- which led to the Politico's Mike Allen telling him, "Chris, first of all, 'cackle' is a very sexist term." (Worth remembering: When John McCain was asked by a GOP voter referring to Clinton, "How do we beat the bitch?" Allen reacted by wondering, "What voter in general hasn't thought that?" So Allen isn't exactly hypersensitive to people describing Clinton in sexist terms.)

Matthews repeatedly suggests Clinton is a "fraud" for claiming to be a Yankees fan, despite the fact that all available evidence indicates that Clinton has been a Yankees fan since childhood. In April of 2007, former Washington Post reporter John Harris, who has written a book about Bill Clinton, told Matthews to his face that the attacks on Clinton over her history of being a Yankees fan were false. Harris said: "Hillary Clinton got hazed over saying she was a New York Yankees fan. It turned out, actually, that was right. She had been a lifelong Yankees fan. But people were all over for supposedly embroidering her past." But Matthews doesn't let a little thing like the truth get in the way of his efforts to take cheap shots at Clinton: At least twice since Harris set him straight, Matthews has attacked Clinton over the Yankees fan nonsense, once calling her a "fraud."

Matthews has described Clinton as "witchy" and -- in what appears to be a classic case of projection -- claimed that "some men" say Clinton's voice sounds like "fingernails on a blackboard." In what appears to be an even more classic case of projection, Matthews has speculated that there is "out there in the country ... some gigantic monster -- big, green, horny-headed, all kinds of horns coming out, big, aggressive monster of anti-Hillaryism that hasn't shown itself: it's based upon gender."

Matthews has suggested that Hillary Clinton "being surrounded by women" might "make a case against" her being "commander in chief." He once asked a guest if "the troops out there" would "take the orders" from "Hillary Clinton, commander in chief." When his guest responded, "Why wouldn't they listen to a commander in chief? Sure," Matthews responded: "You're chuckling a little bit, aren't you?" When his guest responded "No," Matthews couldn't quite believe it, sputtering: "No problem? No problem? No problem?"

Matthews has wondered if she is unable "to admit a mistake" because doing so would lead people to call her a "fickle woman." He has said that Clinton is on a "short ... leash" as a presidential candidate, lacking "latitude in her husband's absence" to answer a question. He has, at least twice, called Hillary Clinton an "uppity" woman -- both times, pretending to attribute the phrase to Bill Clinton. But, as Bob Somerby has explained, there is no evidence Clinton has ever used the term.

One of Matthews' favorite topics is Clinton's marriage. After The New York Times ran an article purporting to count the number of nights the Clintons spend together, Matthews' imagination ran wild, and the MSNBC host couldn't get the Clintons' marital life out of his mind. At one point, Media Matters counted 90 separate questions Matthews asked guests about the topic during seven separate programs; the number undoubtedly grew after we stopped counting. In the middle of one of Matthews' bouts of obsessive speculation about how often the Clintons are "together in the same roof overnight, if you will," Washington Post reporter Lois Romano asked him, "hat is your obsession with logistics here?" In response, Matthews snapped at her: "Because I'm talking to three reporters, and I'm trying to get three straight answers, so I don't want attitude about this. It's a point of view -- I want facts. Tell me what the facts are, Lois, if you know them. If you don't, I don't know what you're arguing about."

Matthews has claimed: "he reason she's a U.S. senator, the reason she's a candidate for president, the reason she may be a front-runner is her husband messed around." John McCain's political career got started after he left his first wife for a wealthy and politically connected heiress, married her, and ran for Congress. But Chris Matthews doesn't suggest that the reason McCain is a "U.S. senator ... a candidate for president ... a front-runner" is that he "messed around." Even Fox News' Bill O'Reilly said Matthews' comments about Clinton went too far: "I mean, it's rough business what these people over there are doing. We don't do that here. We would never say that Senator Clinton got her job because her husband messed around. I mean, that is -- that is a personal attack. And it is questionable whether a network should allow that or not."

Matthews periodically gets it into his head that the most important question in the world is whether Bill Clinton will be a "distraction" or whether he will "behave himself." He badgers Clinton aides about the question and warns that Bill Clinton "better watch it." He asks if Clinton will be a "good boy" or be guilty of "misbehavior." Matthews is not so subtly referring to Clinton's affair with Monica Lewinsky. But curiously, he doesn't have the same concerns about McCain or about Rudy Giuliani, as I wrote nearly a year ago.

Think about this for a second: Chris Matthews is holding it against Hillary Clinton that her husband cheated on her. But he doesn't hold it against John McCain and Rudy Giuliani that they cheated on their spouses. Matthews seems to think women are to blame when their husbands have affairs -- and men who cheat on their spouses are blameless.

And then there's Matthews' fixation on Hillary Clinton's "ambition." In December 1999, Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson appeared on Hardball to discuss Clinton's Senate campaign. Matthews asked Wolfson eight consecutive questions about whether Clinton was "ambitious." Finally, Matthews said, "People who seek political power are ambitious by definition," leading Wolfson to tell him: "if you say so. If it will make you happy, I'll agree." If Matthews has ever displayed as much interest in the "ambition" of male candidates like John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, Fred Thompson, or Mike Huckabee, he has done so in private.

And, in the midst of his years-long assault on Hillary Clinton, much of it either directly based on her gender or on a sexist double standard, Matthews has the audacity to accuse Clinton of being "anti-male" and to insist that "she should just lighten up on this gender -- 'the boys are coming to get me' routine."

None of this should surprise us. Chris Matthews acknowledged his feelings about Hillary Clinton long ago: "I hate her. I hate her. All that she stands for." And "she drives some of us absolutely nuts."

But Matthews' questionable treatment of women extends beyond Hillary Clinton.

Matthews has described House Speaker Nancy Pelosi as "scary" and suggested she would "castrate" House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer. And he has wondered how she could disagree with President Bush "without screaming? How does she do it without becoming grating?"

Just this week, Matthews claimed there isn't a plausible female presidential candidate "on the horizon" because there aren't any "big-state women governors" -- but Washington Gov. Christine Gregoire, Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano, Connecticut Gov. Jodi Rell, and Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius all run states with populations comparable to male governors who have recently run for president, including Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, and Bill Richardson. How large a state does a woman have to run before she qualifies as a plausible presidential candidate to Chris Matthews? One that is twice as large as Mitt Romney's Massachusetts? Three times as large?

Last October, Matthews mused aloud about a hypothetical couple trying to decide who to support for president. In Matthews' mind, the wife just wants to see "the first woman president." According to Matthews, the husband has to explain the math to his wife: "he husband says, 'You know, dear, you know, this is going to kill our tax bracket. You know that tuition thing we pay every couple of years for the kids, every year, we can't do that if we get a higher tax bracket. We have to pay more money.' "

After the Des Moines Register endorsed Hillary Clinton earlier this year, Matthews suggested that the paper's "female editors and publisher" succumbed to "lobbying" by Bill Clinton.

Matthews has repeatedly focused on the physical characteristics of his female guests. He recently began an interview with conservative radio host and author Laura Ingraham by telling her, "I'm not allowed to say this, but I'll say it -- you're beautiful and you're smart." He ended the interview by saying: "I get in trouble for this, but you're great looking, obviously. You're one of the gods' gifts to men in this country. But also, you are a hell of a writer." Note that Matthews said Ingraham is also a good writer -- apparently, to Chris Matthews, there is no reason for men to care about whether a woman can write, only about how she looks.

Matthews' comments about Ingraham came only a month after he told CNBC anchor Erin Burnett, "You're a knockout," adding: "It's all right getting bad news from you." Matthews also told Burnett: "Come on in closer. No, come in -- come in further -- come in closer. Really close." Matthews made such a spectacle of himself during the exchange that The New York Post said "it sure looked" like Matthews had been "perving on CNBC hottie Erin Burnett on live TV the other night." Matthews explained that he had merely been "kidding around."

During MSNBC's April 26, 2007, coverage of the first Democratic presidential debate, Matthews discussed the "cosmetics" of the evening. In doing so, he complimented Michelle Obama's pearl necklace and declared that she "looked perfect," "well-turned out ... attractive -- classy, as we used to say. Like Frank Sinatra, 'classy.' "

Matthews also appeared to argue that many viewers would be basing their decisions about the candidates on how, in Clinton's case, the candidate was dressed, or, in the case of the male candidates, how their spouses were dressed: "Some people are, by the way, just watching tonight. They stopped listening a half-hour in, and they noticed how pretty she is -- Michelle -- and they said, 'I like the fact he's got this pretty wife. He's happily married. I like that.' They like the fact that Hillary was demure, lady-like in her appearance." When NBC chief foreign affairs correspondent Andrea Mitchell interjected, noting "You're talking about two ... lawyers," who went to "Harvard and Yale," Matthews defended himself, saying, "Cosmetics are a part of this game."

Nor is any of this new: In August 1999, Matthews hosted notorious liar Gennifer Flowers, during which he told her: "I gotta pay a little tribute here. You're a very beautiful woman, and I -- and I have to tell you, he knows that, you know that, and everybody watching knows that; Hillary Clinton knows that. How can a woman put up with a relationship between her husband and somebody, anybody, but especially somebody like you that's a knockout?" After Flowers told him "Gosh, you make me blush here," Matthews replied, "t's an objective statement, Gennifer. I'm not flirting."

In 2000, Matthews responded to linguist Deborah Tannen's explanation of then-presidential candidate George W. Bush's efforts to appeal to women voters by saying, "So is this like the political equivalent of Spanish fly? That these seductive number of words you just drop out there and women just swoon." That led another Hardball guest, Lynn Martin -- a Republican -- to point out, "You wouldn't suggest he's seducing men."

Chris Matthews has been treating female guests as sexual objects for years. He has been judging women -- senators, presidential candidates, the speaker of the House -- on their clothes and their voices and their appearance for years. He has been referring to women as "castrating" for years. He has been applying double standards to male and female candidates for years.

This is who Chris Matthews is. He is a man who thinks that men who support women politicians are "eunuchs."

He isn't going to stop unless you make him stop. Chris Matthews uses his voice to marginalize women. Use yours to tell MSNBC you've had enough.

It's time to play a little "hardball." Please contact MSNBC and Chris Matthews today and let them know what you think.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:15 PM
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1. That would be a big "yes".
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1620rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:19 PM
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3. What a coincidence, I hate Matthews.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:18 PM
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2. Is "surrounded by women" her latest felony?
Because Camille Paglia uses the same concept in her latest hit piece. Nice to know that hiring competent women is a BAD thing in this country.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:17 AM
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42. Is she still around?
I thought she faded away finally in the 90's along with the Macarena, Pearl Jam and the Rachel (haircut).
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:40 AM
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50. Surrounded by screaming hysterical womenfolk who should be in the kitchen
Thats the line.

Don
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:20 PM
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4. Matthews is scum disguised as political shock theater
His disguise is wearing thin, too.

Confession: Deborah Tannen is a friend, so this should come
as no surprise, even if I never see US TV, and only see Matthews
on Youtube snips.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:20 PM
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5. Sometimes his colleagues look afraid of him. He needs to go
I need a better email address. The last one just bounced back
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:23 PM
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6. I wish Media Matters would have included email addresses. The last email I sent to him bounced back
too. They do NOT care to hear what we have to say. I do believe you now must email the General Manager of MSNBC.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:27 PM
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12. I would like to know that one too. I have sent a couple to
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 12:01 AM by durrrty libby
Abrams@MSNBC.com but there must be a better one
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:30 PM
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14. I just emailed KO and it bounced back. I'm going to email Dan Abrams. He is the General Manager.
I hope he fires Tweety.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:56 PM
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29. He *was* GM. He resigned that job when he went back on the air.
I'm not sure who has the job now.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:03 PM
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55. imagine that!
:hi: Slurpy Mcdrool face has gotta go>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:24 PM
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7. The mods may ask you to trim this to a few paragraphs. Anyway, the key point of this foaming-
...-at-the-mouth by Matthews is this: he thinks that Hillary looks down on him, that he's not good enough for her or something.

Check out the Cenk Unger piece addressing this very same issue in a pol. video posted yesterday. I think the thing to do is send MSNBC the message that this psychopathic man has got to go.

And be replaced by saner, more intelligent minds like... RACHEL MADDOW!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:34 PM
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16. Four paragraphs unless you have permission.
Fair use.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:36 PM
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18. It's an EMAIL I received...it's not an article. n/t
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:41 PM
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22. I think it's an article that your received in an email, though. nt
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:45 PM
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24. But private emails are allowed, aren't they? I post them all the time and have never been told not
to. How is someone receiving an email suppose to know it's an article that was emailed to them unless it says specifically that it is?:crazy: I'm sure if Media Matters didn't want this shared, they wouldn't have emailed it out to their members and people on their email list, no?
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:48 PM
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26. Well, then it's all right then. Anyway, thanks for posting this look into a pathologic mind!
If no mod has asked you to trim similar emails before, it should be okay then.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:27 AM
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38. I think in a way she does look down on him
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 10:28 AM by Toots
Just last week he asked her if she would come on his show and she replied "You have to be kidding" and then said something about obsessive men. I think she looks down on him because of his behavior as any normal sane person should..
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:49 AM
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51. She said, jokingly, 'I just don't know what to do with men who are obsessed with me,' and...
...I think she handled the whole episode with humour and grace.

He's the one with the inferiority complex (and I think he does have a crush on her but can't get her) and so he can only attack her in sour grapes fashion.

At least that's my totally superficial take on Tweety's rabid, anti-obsession with HRC.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:19 AM
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43. Yes, he has a crush on her and knows he has no chance
He's so obsessed with her he must be in love with her!

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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:24 PM
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8. Add that to "The Many Man-Crushes of Chris Matthews",
and you've got one fucked-up bird.

Tweety's days are numbered, and he knows it. At least, he should.
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 04:04 PM
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66. Isn't that what they call nowadays a 'Bromance"?
Heard on the ol telly, dont blame me!
:shrug:
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:26 PM
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9. The lone freeper at work thinks Tweety is on Hillary's payroll.
Supposedly Hillary always does best when someone is picking on her. Said freep wishes Tweety and the rest of them would shut the hell up and stop feeding what he calls the "poor little Hillary" schtick. He thinks them picking on her is going to propel her right to the White House because the women of America are just not going to stand still for a bunch of men picking on poor Hillary.

I kid you not.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:36 PM
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17. I don't disagree.
I know it made me mad enough to sink every other issue in the election.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 04:16 PM
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67. I sort of agree with that freeper, the corporate media have awakened to the fact
via the Internet that the American People now know they're lying scum. I believe they've decided the best way for them to get their favorite corporate candidate is to use reverse psychology against them.

Mean while anyone with a populist message claiming to fight corporate corruption is marginalized or ignored.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:27 PM
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10. Great compilation... he's really gone around the bend
His treatment of Gore leading up to 2000 was abominable. Matthews is a cruel,sadistic monkey with an anti-Democratic Party agenda. It's a matter of public record. How can it be denied?
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:27 PM
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11. The more they slag on Hillary ...
... the more people become sympathetic to her.

Hillary and Barak are each remarkable, capable people. But Americans are creatures of perversity. We hate bullies and love victims, especially when the victims don't accept their punishment.

If I was Barak Obama, I'd be quite nervous about the Hate-Hillary machine going into overdrive this quickly. It's not only something that burns Hillary, it's also the antithesis of Obama's political philosophy. And both of them need to pull the reins in on their underlings, who are apt to say any damned thing, and often do.

As for Chris Matthews, he's pissing away a career in the press and in politics over a bad case of spite. Perhaps he should spend more time with his family until this passes.

--p!
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:44 PM
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23. Train wreck attraction. Maybe that's precisely why he's still on=reels in viewers with his...
...vile and unhinged attacks.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:51 AM
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52. Excellent assessment. n/t
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:29 PM
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13. I usually don't read long post I just skim them, but I read every line of this one.
And I have to say thanks for posting it.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:39 PM
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19. You're welcome. n/t
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:53 AM
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53. It misses something without the links, though.
reading it at Media Matters makes one even more enraged when you realize that there are citations for every single assertion in the piece.

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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:33 PM
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15. Has MSNBC ever justified having this POS on the payroll?
It isn't like he has this big audience. . .as we are rapidly learning from the primaries, none of these wingnut pundits have much of an audience, and even less influence over the audience they have, since it appears people aren't voting the way they preach. So what, exactly, is MSNBC's reason for having this turd pooping all over our television sets? Did someone tell MSNBC that anyone was interested in what Tweety has to say? That the American people were so fascinated by the opinions of another con-artist, con-servative hetero white male that we needed another one whining endlessly in our ears?

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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:39 PM
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20. Should I care?
Why should I give a damn about some balding loud mouth's opinions?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:39 PM
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21. gee, a man who thinks he is superior to women
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 11:40 PM by Skittles
and gages the worth of a woman on their physical appearance. Stop the presses!
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:47 PM
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25. Geez, you didn't have to include all of that
...everyone here already knows that he hates her guts.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:50 PM
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27. It's the impact. He REALLY, REALLY, REALLY hates Hillary. There's no denying it now.
:grr:

All of Tweety's Hillary hate in one place.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:29 AM
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46. True, you have proven that
He really, REALLY hates Hillary's guts :rofl:
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:25 AM
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37. It's the totality of it, and how long he has gotten away with it........
that smacks you in the face.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:51 PM
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28. i really think this is all an act Matthews is pulling.
If he really hated Hillary Clinton, he wouldn't discuss her much and he wouldn't have smiled and hugged her on tv. That's the same with Tucker Carlson that bad mouthed Senator Clinton on a daily basis on "Crossfire" and after he made that bet that she would lose, which she didn't, he would eat his shoe....she made a surprise guest appearance and showed up with a cake to give to Tucker, he blushed and was bowing to Ms. Clinton pathetically.

Matthew's bucking for ratings. What a media whore he is.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:02 AM
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30. What contact info do they give?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:22 PM
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68. NONE. This is the complete email.
:( I wish they had included current email addresses so we could flood their boxes with complaints. I did email Dan Abrams...Abrams@MSNBC.com and it didn't bounce back, so maybe he'll read it and DO SOMETHING.
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:03 AM
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31. Couldn't be any clearer ... how can MSNBC allow
this to continue?
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:11 AM
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32. Chris Matthews is a stoogie, why would I even waste a second on what he thinks. nm
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 12:12 AM by rhett o rick
edit as I don't know how to spell stoogie
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:31 AM
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33. Damn. Look at that list.
Makes me glad I haven't had MSNBC for over three years now.

I'm now convinced that the term "assclown" was inspired by Mr. Chris, though "pigtard" seems more fitting.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 03:00 AM
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34. Chris Matthews doesn't hate Hillary - He hates democrats and he hates women...
I seriously cannot watch that man longer than 5 minutes without turning the channel in disgust at some comment, even if subtle that shows he has absolutely no respect for women, sees them as sexual objects or bimbos and ofcourse his love to mock anything associated with the Democratic Party.

How this man is still employed and even with multiple shows is beyond me. I'm just waiting for the day that Keith Olbermann puts him in his place and Tweety is finally demoted...
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 03:10 AM
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35. Yep. Me too!
Maybe he can do infomercials, or be an announcer for those ridiculous wrestling shows, a perfect job for a knuckle-dragging misogynist.

:hi: :hug:



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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:46 AM
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36. NitPicking: The Author is misusing the term Projection.
One projects their "bad thoughts" into the object (person) of their anxiety or dislike or onto their opponent without acknowledging or understanding their own dark feelings.

Saying: "some men" don't like Hillary is not projecting, it is prevaricating (being misleading or fibbing with wiggle room)

Some examples: A man wants to have an affair. Rather than admit it, he accuses his spouse of cheating or wanting to cheat.

A thin woman is disgusted by obese women in general, but cannot admit her bias. When she sees an obese woman she says to others or to herself: That obese woman hates me and thinks I'm disgusting because I'm so thin.

Geore Bush projects all over the place. Saddam/Osama/Person X is constantly wanting to attack, bomb, destroy our country, when in reality, it is GWB who wants to attack, bomb, destroy other countries.

In classic projection, the person DENIES having these feelings. Chris Matthews has never denied disliking Clinton.


Yes, he's neurotic, misogynistic and screwed up. But in those instances, he is not Projecting.

Why nitpick? Because these kind of sweeping generalization undercut the very real issues (like misogyny) being discussed here. The author leaves him/herself open to dismissal of the entire argument based on faulty terminology.


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ordinaryaveragegirl Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:55 AM
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39. Tweety's admitted voting for * in '04...
And that says it all IMHO. He's a worthless pig.
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elizfeelinggreat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:08 AM
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40. I agree his absolute hatred is obvious
Although it's most often aimed at Hillary, he's definitely demeaning to women in general. His language has been unmistakable for a long time and I won't watch his show at all for that reason.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:10 AM
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41. Oh, hell yes he does. nt
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:27 AM
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44. Corporate McMedia....Matthews works for GE....and he wants to keep his job by smearing Dems
who as CNBC Pundits and Larry Kudlow say will be "very bad for Wall St."
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:29 AM
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47. Naah.. he lauds Obama at every opportunity...
and is even generally positive about Edwards.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:28 AM
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45. It's obvious Matthews hates Hillary.
She's not my favorite, but Chris clearly has a personal problem with her.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:36 AM
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48. His latest rambling is the most bizarre.
Where he says that Hillary is only where she is because her husband cheated. Besides being insulting, it makes NO sense.

Does he have a problem with women in general? Oh hell, yeah. Whenever Rachel Maddow goes on there's always some weird, semi-hostile comment or another. And check out this freak freaking on one of his own anchors-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKBDOLdU-Ug

-"Chris Matthews Creepy Crush on Erin Burnett"

Matthews: Can you come in closer to the camera...
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:40 AM
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49. They're just warming up.
After at least a token attempt to install one of the GOP dunsels, the MSM will acknowledge Clinton's inevitability. But if she takes office, they will not let her do so without a few kilotons of invented baggage.

The real reasons not to elect her, of course, will never be spoken.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:53 AM
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54. He really seems unhinged lately...I wonder if they need to adjust his meds.
Sometimes he makes sense, but lately he goes off on these weird tangents and
seems really agitated about things that don't make any sense.


:shrug:
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:12 PM
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57. That's his real problem. Needs some time on the couch in addition to meds
to figure out why he has so much antipathy towards women.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:14 PM
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58. I agree. I wonder what his wife thinks about his little tirades.
Yikes.
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:11 PM
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56. This part is priceless.
Matthews has claimed: "he reason she's a U.S. senator, the reason she's a candidate for president, the reason she may be a front-runner is her husband messed around." John McCain's political career got started after he left his first wife for a wealthy and politically connected heiress, married her, and ran for Congress. But Chris Matthews doesn't suggest that the reason McCain is a "U.S. senator ... a candidate for president ... a front-runner" is that he "messed around." Even Fox News' Bill O'Reilly said Matthews' comments about Clinton went too far: "I mean, it's rough business what these people over there are doing. We don't do that here. We would never say that Senator Clinton got her job because her husband messed around. I mean, that is -- that is a personal attack. And it is questionable whether a network should allow that or not."
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Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:39 PM
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59. Holy Shit is Right--What an Astonishing OP
What an astonishing compilation of these scary-vindictive harangues and tirades and outbursts that people have been listening to from this vicious bastard for years now! Wow...I can hardly get over it yet; fabulous job of reporting it, and posting it here. THIS is WHY women have been getting angrier and angrier, and even those who did not support her have become SO HAPPY that she won. This is what women still endure every day, not to mention the rapes, beatings, stalkings, and all the rest, that police never investigate (as again with the raped Marine, now dead) and media does not cover (where are all the "fuck the dead missing white women" people?). Matthews will, no doubt, pay no price at all for this, as always. Stunning to read it all--thank you. This is how women live in the male world, whenever we try to accomplish, oh yes it is.
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LeFleur1 Donating Member (973 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 01:13 PM
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61. Matthews Should Be....
...put in a room with a mirror, a bottle of windex and a kleenex. Never to be seen or heard from again.
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 01:13 PM
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60. I've been searching for MSNBC emails - they all come back - anyone?
They changed their web site and don't include emails now.

The only one I can find is viewerservices@msnbc.com

Anyone have any others? I'll gladly write till my fingers fall off.

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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 01:22 PM
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62. Have you tried....
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 01:23 PM by Reciprocity
hardball@msnbc.com
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 01:23 PM
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63. Three emails to use for MSNBC
letters@msnbc.com
hardball@msnbc.com
viewerservices@msnbc.com
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 02:28 PM
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64. CM is totally gone. I guess Hillary running for president, finally pushed him
over the edge he had been teetering on for years.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 03:10 PM
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65. Excellent & exhaustive. I'll also claim credit for saying these things for years
Note the paragraph (below) on Tweety and Britney SPEARS.


Chris Matthews


From Demopedia

Etymology of "Tweety". During Campaign 2000 the media noise machine was swooning over the nicknames Shrub was giving some of them. Media Whores Online ran a contest to nickname Chris MATTHEWS. In the first 3 or so weeks, there was no clear, catchy front runner, with "The Screamer" sort of leading. Then one of MATTHEWS's own Hardball staff leaked to MWO that they themselves called him "Tweety" because of the Clairol shade he favored. This was immediately declared the winner. But in some quarters, it wasn't entirely satisfactory. For one thing, by the time the name was declared, the shade had changed to platinum, leading to a suggestion he be called "Carole LOMBARD".
Plus, "Tweety" sounded too affectionate. Then M-TV held its 20th or 25th or whatever anniversary, and all the cable echo chambers were doing segments of Britney shedding her duds down to almost nothing. Not to be left behind, Tweety followed suit, with a guest "culture" commentator from Time Mag, the young humor columnist, Joel STEIN. The staff kept re-running the Britney clip, and Tweety was clearly DROOLING disgustingly. STEIN said, "You're beginning to creep me out." Tweety responded, "Yeah, well, wait till YOU're 50." This led to the suggestion that "Tweety" be modified to "Tweezer" to retain the hair reference while canceling out the affection factor and also adding the (dirty old) "geezer" angle.

Darrell HAMMOND "Doing" Tweety on SNL. Tweety's ego was massively stroked after the debut of HAMMOND's impersonation of him, either in 2001 or 2002. He said, "I am now an ICON: I have been 'done' on Saturday Night Live'." The funniest line in the debut was HAMMOND as Tweety, cracking himself up with, "For the...FIFTY...people who watch this show (Hardball, not SNL)..." In the first few times HAMMOND featured him, the target was Tweety himself--manically interrupting, spitting, and drooling. However, the characterization evolved, not true to the original, where Tweety became the "rational" character surrounded by oddball, extremist "guests", with HAMMOND-Tweety shaking his head in disbelief at their partisan spin.

"Turning" from Being a Democrat. He (like G.E.RUSSERT and Pat CADDELL) still trades on having been a Democrat in the CARTER/O'NEILL era. In the hothouse of big time political flunkydom, STATUS and POWER come from the SUCCESS of your boss. RAYGUN kicked Tweety's bosses' rears, and Tweety gravitated to admiring that "success". When he started up his media career he was mentored by G.E. RUSSERT, who had himself already started "turning" by "reaching out" to LIMBOsevic and expending his formerly-Lib-bleeding-heart on those poor wingnuts who had been maligned and marginalized, lo those many years. Tweety started doing video valentines to RAYGUN, walking arm in arm with Nancy. He might have tapped into the frenzy of the FAKE impeachment, but "hatred of the CLINTONs" isn't what made him turn. The last time he was identifiably a Democrat was sometime after 1988 when Hardball (the book) was published.

How Tweety "Executed" DONAHUE on MSNBC. Tweety was on his book tour for another one of his "books" (large type, wide spaces between lines, blank half-pages). It was in the jingoistic hysteria in the run-up to the illegal Iraq attack. The book was about supposed "Americanism" --an American Civ 101 ripoff about books and movies and cultural stuff that are essentially American (think, "The Great Gatsby"). So Phil welcomed him as a colleague and peer on Phil's show for the full hour to plug the book. From the moment he appeared, there was a strange, deadly snake look in Tweety's snake eyes. Phil was walking around, apparently not sensing anything, while Tweety was motionless, following him only with his eyes. Phil brought up something or other questioning blind jingoism, and Tweety STRUCK! He started out with venom dripping, "You see THIS is EXACTLY what's wrong with you Liberals: You are NEGATIVE about this country, you find NOTHING good about it," and on and on. It took awhile before Phil figured out what was happening. Later, Phil was sitting at the table with Tweety and, weaker and weaker, did some of his trademark shoulder shrugging and arm waving. Tweety delivered the coup de grace, "What's THIS (mimicking the movements)??!! What's with the --APE-- movements???" Days or a week or two later, Phil's cancellation was announced and took effect.

How Tweety "Triggered" a Gun Incident (re: Kathleen WILLEY). At the height of the FAKE impeachment, Ms WILLEY claimed that a mystery jogger had threatened her or her cat or somebody. Several months later, there was gossip that the jogger had been identified. Tweety hosted her and it appeared they had discussed the identity off camera. He tried mightily to get her to say the name on the air, which she wouldn't do. Finally, he himself blurted it out, "Was it Name/Surname?" She would not confirm it. Within days there was a bizarre incident, with the mentally disabled brother of Pat and Bay BUCHANAN going with a gun to the house of the supposed jogger, where there were only some foreign exchange students present. Later it was determined that the person Tweety named on the air had NOTHING to do with the supposed jogger incident.

"Heroes" Tweety and Tom DeLAY. In the aftermath of the 07-24-98 shooting of two Capitol police officers when the slain officers were duly eulogized and called heroes, Tweety latched on to this, the way we have seen him attempt to glorify himself in other instances: Like saying he was assigned in the Peace Corps and "WALKED THE SAME GROUND" THAT CHURCHILL passed through. Or when he said, "I am an ICON! I have been 'done' by SNL!". So now that the Capitol policemen were being called heroes, Tweety came forward to say that HE had been a Capitol policemen, TOO, JUST LIKE THEM, when he was starting out. It turns out that he had worked a (temporary?) job for three months as that. In all the years before the officers were shot and eulogized, he probably NEVER referred to that job, most likely thinking of it as a rent-a-cop turn, until he could see in retrospect the glory that he had been DESTINED to from the beginning.
But he is not the only glory hog. When that incident was happening, the news of the moment reported that Tom DELAY had hopped a plane out of town and immediately turned around in Houston when the incident was over. This show of courage is why he has been dubbed, "Tom-DePLANE!-DePLANE!-DELAY". But searches of countless news reports of that time show no mention of the hopping-the-plane. Only this is left:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/... "...House members, many rushing out of town, did not have to remain behind. DeLay slipped out the main door of the Capitol less than 15 minutes after the shooting. He looked stricken. Asked if he'd seen anything, he said, "Did I ever. I don't want to talk about it." Aides rushed him into his waiting car. ...."
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