I decided that ANYONE who consistently bashes ANY of our candidates makes my ignore list

I'm tired of the vitriol for our candidates. This isn't the DU I love and remember. I never thought that it would spiral down to self-destruction and outright hatred for Hillary, Obama, Edwards, or any of our other now withdrawn candidates.

What the fuck happened here? I thought the rules stated that BEING anti-Democratic was reason enough to be tombstoned. But it happens every hour now.


I said last year I was going to not use my ignore privileges so easily, but with the huge number of hate threads here, I have changed my mind.


Life is too short to watch the self-destruction of this site and our party, OUR party for those of you who are only interested in tearing it apart.


Let the bashing begin.

I've worn out m' clicker!

I too have just joined the Ignore Button Club. I am amazed on how just pushing ignore on a few posters cleans the whole place up.

the candidates. I'm not sure where the line is between bashing in sentences that have factual content and those that qualify for the ignore button. Are we talking character, personality bashing.

We need to have some context about where the line is.

It's simple, read my OP.

2+2=4, unless you are a Thuglie then 2+2=0 for anyone but you.

... either that, or based on your unbending interpretation of reality, adjust your Lexapro dosage.

Listen, if DEMOCRATS don't like the way the DEMOCRATIC party is being handled, given some of the ideas as has been put forth by the DLC and in turn, candidates that ultimately are supported with DLC big money machines, then I say the DEMOCRATIC thing to do is to

BASH THE SHIT OUT OF THEM! To do anything else within our party would continue this party on the path to becoming the LEMMING Party, and NOT the Democratic Party.

So, get off your high horse! Develop some skin, for Christ's sake!

But you won't know this, as you've probably waved your magic ignore wand. Oh well... some people measure THEIR thoughts with a different ruler than others. :shrug:

Regardless... this was in response to the OP!

Disagree with? Criticize? Name-Call? Lie about? Ridicule? Lust after?

:shrug:
rocknation

bash /bæʃ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used with object) 1. to strike with a crushing or smashing blow.
2. Chiefly British, Canadian. to hurl harsh verbal abuse at.
–noun 3. a crushing blow.
4. Informal. a thoroughly enjoyable, lively party.
—Idioms5. have a bash (at), British. to attempt; make an attempt.
6. on the bash, British. working as a prostitute.


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basher, noun
bash (bāsh) Pronunciation Key
v. bashed, bash·ing, bash·es

v. tr.

To strike with a heavy, crushing blow: The thug bashed the hood of the car with a sledgehammer.
To beat or assault severely: The police arrested the men who bashed an immigrant in the park.
Informal To criticize (another) harshly, accusatorially, and threateningly: "He bashed the . . . government unmercifully over the . . . spy affair" (Lally Weymouth).

v. intr. Informal
To engage in harsh, accusatory, threatening criticism.

n.
Informal A heavy, crushing blow.
Slang A celebration; a party.




bash'er n.

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bash

"to strike violently," 1641, perhaps of Scand. origin (cf. Swed. basa "to baste, whip, flog, lash," Da. baske "to beat, strike, cudgel"), from O.N. *basca "to strike;" or the whole group may be independently derived and echoic. Fig. sense of "abuse verbally or in writing" is from 1948. On a bash "on a drunken spree" is slang from 1901, which gave the word its sense of "party."

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noun
1. a vigorous blow; "the sudden knock floored him"; "he took a bash right in his face"; "he got a bang on the head"
2. an uproarious party

verb
1. hit hard

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bash verb

(sometimes with in) to beat or smash (in)
Example: The soldiers bashed in the door. Arabic: يَضْرِبُ بِعُنْف
Chinese (Simplified): 猛击
Chinese (Traditional): 猛擊
Czech: praštit, mlátit
Danish: hamre; slå ind
Dutch: inslaan
Estonian: sisse lööma
Finnish: murskata, lyödä
French: défoncer, enfoncer
German: einschlagen
Greek: τσακίζω
Hungarian: beüt
Icelandic: reka roknahögg, berja; brjóta niður
Indonesian: mendobrak, menampar
Italian: sfondare
Japanese: ぶんなぐる
Korean: 부딪치다
Latvian: dauzīt; triekt
Lithuanian: sumušti, sugurinti, išlaužti
Norwegian: slå (inn), hamre løs
Polish: walnąć, wgnieść
Portuguese (Brazil): arrombar
Portuguese (Portugal): arrombar
Romanian: a bate, *a lovi (în)
Russian: колотить
Slovak: udrieť, mlátiť
Slovenian: vdreti
Spanish: echar abajo, forzar a golpes
Swedish: slå, drämma

To engage in harsh, accusatory, threatening criticism.

I don't think it is sufficient.

I'm not going criticize any candidate on a personal basis, I certainly can criticize on a issue basis. If all DUers can criticize Republicans, we must also criticize Republican-Lite and Republica-Heavy Democrats.

So I believe you are going to have to define when the line is crossed or, at a minimum, give some examples.

These exchanges are about comparisons of the issues and positions - for me. My big issues are - no more killing and no more of my being taken into posseession by corporations and barons and some groups scheme for controlling the earth recources which includes the people and their control. The wanna-be leaders put out who they are going to work for and it is a matter of believing them. Or not. Trying to counter them when you don't requires words, not bashing. If I can't figure out who they are going to work for - the corproations or the citizens or if 'I know', I'm going to challenge them. The question is who is going to be benefitting from the reasons some want to be President. I will fight when I believe it will be corporations.

If they strongly don't want to help me, but seem to want to work closely with corporations - why should I not point that out?

harsh, threatening criticism is a good thing, myself included.

With that said, I'm concerned that some people are overly sensitive and can't accept *real* and valid criticism of their candidate of choice. They want to insulate themselves from hearing anything that might challenge their particular view, and that is something I have little respect for.

In other words, BOTH extremes are bad.

My
Thoughts
Exactly

:toast:

I firmly believe that most of DU wants our party united and successful and truly dislike seeing the divisiveness being flamed daily here. It harms our DU community and brings a smile to the face of our enemies.

Considering most of the flamefests are started by the same culprits they could easily be marginalized if everyone just stopped engaging them.

I'm going to seriously consider your suggestion.

No flames from me!

once you put them on? I've been hesitant to do it because once the primaries are over, I don't want a long list of posts that I can't see.

My "forgiveness" levels have declined in the last couple of months.

I don't know anymore who is who here. I have trusted friends, but so many "haters" have sprouted my time is worth more than the effort to root them out.

Staples has an "easy" button, we have the ignore button. Results are just as instantaneous.

The correct answer is yes, you can. Whether or not you choose to is a different question all together.

:eyes:

:think: :eyes: :rofl:

Go under the options icon at the top of the page, than to "Ignore List" on the lower left.

You're welcome.

:headbang:
rocknation

Put me on ignore, then come back to this thread and you should see "ignored" where my post should be.

Then go back and take me off. You should see my post again.

Now if you already have me on ignore.....nevermind :hi:

have eaten the granite cookie by the time I come back to reconsider the banishing.

:rofl:

There's an option to remove people from your ignore list.

I would imagine that adopting a policy like that would mean putting about 10% of DU on ignore, at least.

I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt, but you see the same names over and over and over again.

who are theri supporters? Charlize Theron-John Kerry ticket supporters?

;-)

Jesus

I really thought it was a nick being used to deride some group or another (there are so many, and I am not here enough to keep up.) - Then as I tried to figure it out - I thought it was funny that here I was trying to figure something out that was a simple typo.

Lighten up - I was just trying to bring a little levity ... something that is sorely missing in the forums these days.

Pelosi and Reid have been bashed pretty consistently since November 2006.

I still think it is Hillary's candidacy that's tearing the party apart.

:eyes:

Is this what it has come to, I take a stand against the hate here and you think it's a joke???



I used to say, two words, and they aren't Merry Christmas, but now I add two more words and everything feels better.:smoke:

Why bother with "Ignore"??? You apparently can't read anyway. :eyes: :eyes:

Nor I in yours.

:rofl:

because the politicians do a better job of it.

How dare we approach the mighty with anything but reverence, awe, and spread cheeks?

Gof FORBID that anyone be a "purist" ... or even within 1,000 miles of beng so.

:rofl:

With a few exceptions who are relegated to the "kooks" dungeons.

The irrational hatred which has been multiplying here has even had me questioning my own hatred of G.W. Bush!(I've decided that no, it is not irrational for me to hate The Halfwit.) I prefer Edwards but will unwaveringly support any of the Democratic Party's candidates over anyone else running- Libertarian and Independent because of "a vote is a terrible thing to waste" and any of the repugs for all the obvious reasons.

My preference was decided on the basis of his positive qualities and not the hysterically proclaimed negative qualities of his fellow candidates.

you should see my ignore list! sometimes the only posts i can see are my own!

eom

but he never got into the race.

Now I settle for bashing candidate bashers, or at least challenging them on the inane over the top stuff.

This saddens me because I actually liked a few of the people I am going to add to my list.

It's either this or leave Du altogether, but I'm not going to play this game anymore.

Sigh....Fffffffuuuuuuuuucccccccccckkkkkkkkkk.

this place up for me. NONE of those hatemongers have any legitimate contributions to make here; they generally ONLY post hate and like to stir up the pot - it's their raison d'etre. Watch them vanish after the convention, only to resurface under different names for the post-convention presidential campaigning.

And are willing to give up our chance for resurgence just out of petty personal hatred.

point out what slimeball tactics the clintons use against a real competitor that's not making the annointed one so inevitable one after all.

}(

... some folks use truthful usernames. :evilgrin:

like that. :evilgrin:

Then we can all get along and have eight years of complaing about how bad things will be.

God forbid that some people do not assimilate to the DLC Collective, but are loyal Democrats and will support whoever is put up there in the end.

Oh, put me on ignore please.

I'm physically handicapped, and getting close to the golden age of deciding to either eat or buy my meds. What incentive do I have to be involved in politics if the Rethugs win again?

And for so many of you, that is what you really want, to let the Rethugs win at any cost.

but just in case -- I think for myself so you can go ahead and put me on ignore now. Thanks.

The irony is amusing here, you know?

I was thinking exactly the same thing. :toast:

made my buddy list. I need to say though that I do have some posters on my buddy list who ARE buddies and not just to watch.

, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you DO criticize them you're a mile a way AND you have their shoes.

This is getting tedious. And why would anyone come here WANTING to make an ignore list? How fucking stupid is that?

:shrug:

:crazy:

Bye!

where the good Lord split ya. LOL

:rofl:

for trolls and assholes. :hi:

hehehe. Just sayin :)

I almost completely cleared my ignore list and started over- about 30 or so names added in the last half hour- the BS was vastly cut after 10 or so names.

Well- back to cleaning the crap off my screen!

ps: hope you and your boys are doing okay. You are in my thoughts.

I do NOT want to come to DU and have practically every thread, despite its original thesis, becoming a hit piece on Hillary....or Edwards....and sometimes Obama. "Democratic" Underground should not be a venue for disparaging our own dems. All of them are worthy of the nomination (none of the pugs are) and so the moderators need to cut off threads of anti-democratic nature. This exercise in futility (knocking each other's favorites is not going to change any minds) is very detrimental to this web site.

Saying Kucinich is "unelectable" is opposing.
Saying Clinton voted for the IWR and supports funding for Bush's Iraq invasion and occupation is bashing.

See how simple that is?

Orwellian propaganda isn't just for Republicans any more, lol.

Please stop... my stomach is killin' me :rofl:

You are en fuego in these threads! :applause:

I will vote for whoever wins the primary. So says we all.

There's no need for it. One can argue for the positive side. Some people just can't do that and have to attack the opponent. Most of these people are called "rethugs." But here, the supporters of everyone else will one day find they are supporting the same person they are not condemning. The argument is over who is the best candidate, not who is the best. My candidate may not get the nomination, but he could get appointed to a position under the winning candidate's administration. They are all in the same party. That's why they don't attack each other as much as their supporters might.

The same people frantically running in and out of every thread, on the opposing candidates, just to drop drawers and take a dump.

Check out my post. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2674964&mesg_id=2674964
saying roughly the same thing.

None of those people will be posting here any more anyway. They will be back at freerepublic yucking it up with their fellow pond scum.

Don

And save us all the trouble

See my post above, the one referring to the Freepers.

Yea, there are a few trolls and disruptor's - the mods usually get those.

I think what ever we do to each other pales in comparison to what the rightie wacko's will dish out to our nominee.

The discord here seems natural - its the primaries after all. Last time I checked, that was called Democracy.

DU will be just fine!

We will unite, close ranks, and fight as one come September.

We need all the help we can muster opposing the puke nominee.

All this in-fighting, just a tune up.

The real fight begins the day after our convention.

peace~:)

Please put me on ignore.

I am quite sure you all know exactly what I'm talking about here. It's a significant part of what makes the current atmosphere so toxic.

I'm now using Ignore and Hide Thread, and I never thought I would do that. The practice makes me uneasy, though, for the following reason: if DU has really gotten that bad, do I even want to be here any more?

Telling those of us who object to develop thicker skins is not the answer. If we adopt the enemy's tactics and language, then who are we?

Hekate

Isn't that kind of like that big bird that buries his head in sand coz bird doesn't like what's going on? Perhaps bird would be better off removing self from the scene?

All these pointless sniping posts are destructive to our mission to elect a Democratic president. The mods need to know when these kinds of posts are showing up.

and lived to regret it when those same disruptors messed with me. Bah.

I've been on the DU since 2000, and this primary flamewar not only takes the cake, it burns it, mashes it to smithereens. I have to keep checking the page headers to make sure I'm on the DU and not the freep or some other rw-"moran" site.

been busy hiding threads for the past week - although when I'm accused of being

1. a troll
2. freeper
3. clinton/edwards/obama/other water carrier
4. other annoying accusations

that person goes on IGNORE

as far as who I support - all and none of the above. Not thrilled, inspired or awe-struck enough to jump on anyone's kool-aid wagon. What I am sure of is this - whoever gets the nomination will get my vote in november because the republic alternatives is too frightening to even think about.

now I'm just waiting for the greenies or some other 3rd party group to show up and start a flame war about how there is another choice... :eyes:

I've been on the DU since 2000, and this primary flamewar not only takes the cake, it burns it, mashes it to smithereens. I have to keep checking the page headers to make sure I'm on the DU and not the freep or some other rw-"moran" site.

"What the fuck happened here? I thought the rules stated that BEING anti-Democratic was reason enough to be tombstoned. But it happens every hour now."

So where does censoring others, trying to get others removed from the boards, and refusing to listen to other opinions fall? (not directed specifically at the op, but from various comments in the thread). I'm not sure which is worse.. those shouting down others, or those ignoring.. the end result is the same..

Yet this thread has not been deleted.

Amazing.