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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 06:45 PM Original message |
What Exactly Is a "Jesuitical Argument"? |
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rwheeler31 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
1. Jesuit priests are noted for teaching logic and debate. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. A Damn Fine Education, Too... |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. I graduated from a Jesuit university, and I have to agree. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Funny Guys, Too! |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Absolutely! |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Some of the Most Pleasant Evenings I've Spent... |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. Don't you find your statement rather contradictory? |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. In My Experience with Jesuit Priests... |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Sure, up to a point. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. "Or worse." It's a Slippery Slope... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 09:09 AM Response to Reply #32 |
82. Yes. I have to agree |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 09:12 AM Original message |
Sharp as Tacks, and They Play Excellent Games of Chess, to Boot |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
91. My dad was educated by Jesuits, and never failed to |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #91 |
92. I'd Entrust My Kids to Their Schooling... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 09:15 AM Response to Reply #32 |
85. Jesuits now aren't what they used to be |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 09:16 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Well, You Know What They Say... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 09:18 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Well over in another thread someone is telling me jesuits were not inquisitors but victims |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. That Would Be a Dominicanical Argument, Right? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 09:30 AM Response to Reply #88 |
89. I think the Domincan (or Dominicanian/Dominicanical argument) is... |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #89 |
90. When Python Speaks Ex Cathedra... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 09:12 AM Response to Reply #31 |
83. Especially considering that Ignatius Loyola's 13th rule |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 09:14 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Maybe Hillary Is Communing with Him to Run Her Campaign? |
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Bigmack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #15 |
44. Dangerous ideas.... logical argument and reason. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. enjoy! |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. The Counter-Reformation Is a Favorite Period of History for Me... |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. In context |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. Given Russert's Frequent Mention of His Jesuit Education... |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. didn't know that about Russert's education |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. View for Yourself... |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
4. Long-winded, not long |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
26. "if you don't win, you don't govern" |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
6. That would depend on what the meaning of "is" is. nt |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Touche! |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I thought an example was called for. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. And a Stunningly Jesuitical Example It Was, at That! n/t |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #21 |
38. Jesuitical Argument = slow motion train wreck.......n/t |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. I Think by Tuesday Night, She Regrets Saying It... n/t |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #6 |
99. Bill Clinton graduated from Georgetown, a Jesuit university. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. LOL! Maybe It's a Deeper Freudian Slip on Her Part Than First Suspected!!! |
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silverweb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
9. Interesting choice of words. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Good Hangover Cure, Too |
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silverweb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 04:13 AM Response to Reply #12 |
77. ? |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 09:06 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Practicing Casuistry... |
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silverweb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #79 |
93. Got it! |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #93 |
94. College Not Required... |
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Rydz777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
11. My wife's reaction to the interview was that Hillary is a "clear |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. "... and we'll see you Tuesday night in Nevada." |
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DaLittle Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 07:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. Yep... And Just Wait fer Ole Pro John Edwards to UnMask The Phonies in what is now a debate |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. And We All Get to "Audit" His Seminar, with the Only Prereq Being... |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I agree with your wife. And she is very intelligent. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Yeah, It Was a Masterstroke to Take a Jab... |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. You are just a sad little insecure fellow. The exact type who |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. No, I'm a Reformed Hillary Clinton Supporter... |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. good for you |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Facts Are Stubborn Things... |
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DeepBlueC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #11 |
35. I like that description |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 09:45 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Too Bad She Only Sees a Single Plane of the Board... |
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IdesOfOctober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
37. Maybe she didn't know the mic was on? |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #37 |
60. Enjoy the Reagan MX Missile Mix |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
39. Oh please, it's akin to: The Talmudic Splitting of Hairs |
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IdesOfOctober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Is that like Tantric Tweezing of the Nosehairs? |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. i do have a *tantric pic* but it will get this thread locked... |
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IdesOfOctober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Oh, the things you learn about your fellow DUers on here. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. well, alright, maybe just this once...enjoy! |
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IdesOfOctober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. My eyes! My eyes! |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #49 |
55. "sullied", I love that line from Pirates of the Caribbean, Dead Man's Chest |
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IdesOfOctober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:50 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. I went as Cap'n Jack last Halloween. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #57 |
61. a great film character, word was Depp went into the casting sessions... |
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IdesOfOctober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:59 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. "I definitely deserved that." |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 01:03 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. then cheers it is... |
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IdesOfOctober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. "But how's your footwork?" |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 01:28 AM Response to Reply #62 |
75. I Do Believe... |
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IdesOfOctober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:55 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. You know about IMDB, right? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
46. Ya Know, She Totally Kicked Ass This Morning. That Must Be Eating You Up Inside. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. She Snarked from a Position of Strength, No Doubt about It... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:44 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Eatttttttttin Ya Up Inside. LOL |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:45 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. You're Projecting... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:49 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Eatttttttin Ya Up Inside, That Competent Performance From Her Is. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:51 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Nitey Nite! n/t |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 01:02 AM Response to Reply #56 |
63. BTW, Thanks for the Jesuitical Argument! |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 01:06 AM Response to Reply #63 |
68. LOL No Problem! |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 01:09 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. As a "Case in Point," This One May Have Been... |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
47. Not an official definition, but I think of it as an argument that resorts to such absurd degrees of |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:42 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Good Practical Working Definition! |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #50 |
67. I didn't watch MTP this morning, so I am unable to answer your question. (nt) |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Don't Run for Office... |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 01:18 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Don't intend to. But if I did, I'd want to have Timmeh's balls for breakfast on national TV |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 01:20 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. But You Didn't Say "No," You Talked about "Intent" - ARE YOU RUNNING? |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 01:32 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. I'll have to consult with my strategists and pollsters -- I'll get back to you. (nt) |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 09:07 AM Response to Reply #76 |
80. So You've Established an Exploratory Committee; Come on, That's NOT A NO! |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #80 |
95. You offer it to me freely. I cannot deny that my heart has greatly desired this. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Aw, Come on, Galadriel: You KNOW That's Not a Sherman Statement! |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 08:51 PM Response to Reply #96 |
101. Sherman will make his statement AFTER Mr. Peabody instructs him on where to set the WABAC Machine. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. "I'm just doing my job, ma'am." |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:45 AM Response to Reply #47 |
52. That's right. It's legalistic with one more syllable and a collar. n/t |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:47 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. *puzzled look* |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 07:42 AM Response to Reply #54 |
78. The term is just a more figurative way to mean "legalistic". |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 09:08 AM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Oh, I Thought It Was Dirty |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 01:12 AM Response to Reply #52 |
72. LOL! That works quite well. (nt) |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
66. Its when you have to take 1/2 hour explaining your vote |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 01:08 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Maybe She Can Revise and Expand Her Remarks in the Congressional Record... |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #66 |
98. Only those voters who demand bumper sticker philosophies |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
97. Maybe it has to do with consistent thinking. |
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