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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:23 PM
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I won't watch the debate, and fuck the other candidates for not taking a stand
for true democracy

:argh:
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:24 PM
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1. Not watching it either
no point.
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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:25 PM
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2. Seconded
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:26 PM
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3. K&R!
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:27 PM
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4. I'm out. n/t
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:27 PM
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5. Me neither, this started in Iowa and has just continued...crickets
from the others and our own party.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:27 PM
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6. Where's that Democratic Unity? Obama? Clinton? Edwards?
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Blue Congress Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:29 PM
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12. Edwards and Hillary wanted Dennis out
not sure about Obama.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:33 PM
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17. Indeed. Gravel too. See video:
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:33 PM
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18. Do you have a link to back that up?
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TripleD Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:40 PM
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26. That's what I'm wondering
Where are the other candidates going to do about the media censoring other Democrats?

Where is that Democratic Unity? Obama? Clinton? Edwards?

They want my vote in November? They could start earning it by standing up for democratic principals and allowing my views a place in the Democratic party.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:56 PM
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27. Gee ... something seems to be missing besides Kucinich. Could it be ...

L E A D E R S H I P ? ? ?



:banghead: :puke:


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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:27 PM
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7. Without Dennis and/or Mike it's not a "debate" anyway. K&R
Just 3 DLC types squabbling over triangulation.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:27 PM
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8. No reason to tune in now. n/t
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:30 PM
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14. true
& that is the first time I ever used the word "fuck" in a subject line.

:mad:
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:59 PM
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29. I noticed that.
:hug:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:28 PM
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9. I can't give a flying flip about the debate now
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:28 PM
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10. Calm down. Why don't we reclaim our airways by boycotting all MSNBC sponsors?
Or is that against your principles? Corporations only act when there are threats to their profits.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:32 PM
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16. why would that be against my principles?
:shrug:

I'm all for legitimate boycotts..
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:40 PM
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25. Cool. I'm trying to find someone that knows how to create a Boycott GE website....
... I don't know how to create a website, but I would if I could.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:28 PM
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11. to stand in unity they should stand in solidarity but they are not.
terrible how the judge came to the decision of going with the network against a political candidate.
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:35 PM
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22. For what it's worth (probably nothing)
I sent them an email saying I'll boycott their programming. Including KO. Fuck 'em. Fuck 'em all.
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ProgressIn2008 Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:30 PM
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13. Agreed,I'm out. The others should take a stand on this power play by corporate media.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:31 PM
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15. Psst. Michigan had a primary today that was boycotted by these same candidates.
"True democracy" my ass.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:57 PM
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28. Pssst. Hillary was ON the ballot.
:eyes:
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:11 PM
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37. I have no idea what that has to do with the price of tea in China, but ok.
:hi:
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 07:47 PM
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50. But did she campaign in Michigan?
I'm asking a question I honestly don't know the answer to.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:33 PM
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19. If all three stood together against the media tonight the Dem
nominee would get my vote.

We know that will not happen, but what an opportunity.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:33 PM
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20. Me neither....nt
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:34 PM
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21. I'm watching FOX in protest
ok well it's muted. but still.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:36 PM
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23. Hardly a protest
Fascist vs. Fascist
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:50 PM
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48. LOL!
:spray:
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Nictuku Donating Member (907 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:38 PM
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24. I'm Out too
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:02 PM
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30. OUT. K&R.nt
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:04 PM
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31. Not going to watch either and BLAME HARRY REID...because fingers are in this one...
Hillary is a Senator...and Reid's Son works for her. Nevada Supreme Court convenes EMERGENCY SESSION just this Afternoon to STOP Kucinich (the elf) from appearing in the Debate? WHOA...what is it that "they fear" from Kucinich (the elf...who doesn't have (according to many) any chances of getting votes?

HUH? :shrug:
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rockybelt Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:04 PM
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32. I'm out nt
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:05 PM
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33. I'm not watching either
Edited on Tue Jan-15-08 09:06 PM by Faye
I came to my sister/brother's house to watch it and be on DU since the cable is out at my house until tomorrow. But if Kucinich is not on, I am not watching. There is no point for me. It will be the same old shit for Clinton and Obama and they will ignore Edwards. So what is the point? So I'm gonna go back home and sleep.
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stimbox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:05 PM
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34. me too. i'm gone.
Edited on Tue Jan-15-08 09:06 PM by stimbox
Took all of the nbc, msnbc, abc and disney related channels off of my remote.
After i vote for Kucinich in the primary i'm switching my party registration.
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:09 PM
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35. Boycott
what a sham
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:09 PM
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36. Who the fuck is NBC
to decide something like this!!! :mad: :grr:
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:12 PM
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38. I'm out
And if the THREE continue the debate w/o Kucinich, they've lost my vote.

All three are for corporations, not for us.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:13 PM
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39. Dennis is fighting for democracy. What does that make the other candidates?
Recommend.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:19 PM
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40. what is this "media" you speak of?
you mean the TV is used for something else besides watching VHS/DVDs and video games? mysterious... :think:

on second thought, i think i'll skip the debate, too. the shock of the TV doing something else might be too much for me yet.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:48 AM
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41. Thank you for saying this so articulately
The fact that a person is running for President and has a D after their name doesn't mean that they give a damn about this country.
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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 06:25 AM
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42. I'm with you. K&R
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:49 PM
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43. Question:
What kind of stand did Dennis take when Mike Gravel was excluded from the debates, but Kucinich was allowed to continue to participate? I like DK, but I'm just curious about this, cuz I heard nothing. And Dennis certainly didn't walk off or mention anything at the debates themselves. Anyone know?
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:00 PM
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44. gravel was on randi's show yesterday (apparently he has been
really sick) and he said he is still IN the race--he hasn't dropped out. and he said he was pissed off that kucinich didn't include him in the suit for attending the debates--that kucinich could have added his name to the original petition or filing.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:06 PM
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46. And he was excluded from debates
before DK was. And as far as I know DK said nothing. (unless I missed it)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:01 PM
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45. Dennis said Obama did, this morning on Amy's show.n/t
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:48 PM
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47. maybe I'm wrong but
At some point don't you need to win some delegates to keep getting invited to these debates? Do the democrats have anything to gain from continued media exposure of Dennis Kucinich considering he appear hopeless out of the presidential race? No. The man has had 6 months of time to build some sort of base. It's not like this is the first and only debate the Democrats have had. I think he's had his fair chance to make his case to be president and simply isn't polling well for future states nor won enough delegates to keep him around.
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stimbox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 08:30 PM
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51. He's on the fucking ballot and gets matching funds.
Until he drops out, he's a fucking candidate.
How difficult is that to grasp?
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 08:37 PM
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52. Shush...You're Making Too Much Sense Here
Don't ruin the righteous indignation at work here...
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Progressive Radical Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 04:49 PM
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49. You make a great point there.
I thought the same thing myself when I found out he wasn't going to be in the debate.

This election season is bullshit, really.
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