Hillary, in Michigan, without campaigning, received 70,630 more votes than McCain.

Romney, with costly, heavy campaigning received only 9,696 votes more than Clinton. This is within about 3%.

And, 32% of the voters who voted in the Republican Primary in MI were Democratic or Independent. I know some Dems cast a strategy vote for mittens, I wonder if they tipped it to him.

Romney beat McCain by 80,326 votes.

I think the numbers show that:

1-Hillary's negativity is a bullshit meme. If she can come within 3% of the Repuke winner, without campaigning, she can win.

2-The repukes still don't know who they are as a Party.

3-Old Man Fred, rudy911, Nutso Paul, and Racist Hunter should drop soon.

He certainly isn't looking that great yet, but his Florida/Super Tuesday strategy sort of mandates it. But those other ones should consider it, along with Kucinich.

The Republicans are really in dire straits - Limbaugh said yesterday that if they nominate Huckabee or McCain the party is fundamentally over.

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Mittsy?...:rofl: I got news for Rush, the party is fundamentally over whichever one of these losers gets nominated.

I just thought--Hell Fuggin' Yeah. Reaganomics is dead. The gop is dead.

The *Conservative Movement* is DEAD. This election will put the final nail in the coffin. The boy chimp's only contribution to life is he helped the gop commit suicide.

Mostly Thompson.

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she can win...

Easy to do when she's the only Democratic frontrunner on the frickin ballot!

(Good to say the overall numbers still look good for Democrats in general, but to skew this as any kind of "pro-Hillary" moment is just insulting to the rest of the field).

nuf said.

they said it was the lowest in years. There's a bad moon risin' for the elephants.

The GOP held a debate here, and Romney promised to get jobs into the state. Considering he grew up here, the GOP rank-and-file thought he meant it (heard some interviews and such on Michigan Public Radio this morning saying this--makes sense).

The reality is, we've been dying for awhile. Our state political leaders are too busy fighting each other to take care of the state properly, and the nation doesn't give a shit.

I honestly thought McCain would win, but it looks like enough Dems followed the Dem e-mails going around telling us to switch and vote for Mitt to keep enough Republicans in the race that they spend down their war chests. Mitt's also a native son, and his dad was a true moderate Republican, a good governor from better times.

Democratic turnout was in the toilet. Most didn't vote at all. I went at 12:30, and I was ballot number #49 when, even in local elections they're at triple digits by then in my precinct. Lowest turnout I've ever seen in this precinct.

Michiganders are pissed off about being disenfranchised, and they stayed home in droves. I'd trust Hillary's numbers if I didn't know that the governor and the party higher-ups had been determined to give the state to her and that only the most committed Dems voted at all. If turnout had been higher--if our votes had actually counted at all, I think we would've seen a far different and more interesting result.

BLOG | Posted 01/15/2008 @ 10:59pm
Michigan's Ominous Message for Hillary Clinton


DETROIT -- The question in Tuesday's Michigan Democratic primary was not whether Hillary Clinton could beat anybody.

The question was whether Clinton could beat nobody.

As the only leading Democratic contender to keep her name on the ballot after Michigan officials moved their primary ahead of the opening date scheduled by the Democratic National Committee, Clinton was perfectly positioned. She had no serious opposition. She also had the strong support of top Michigan Democrats such as Governor Jennifer Granholm and U.S. Senator Debbie Stabenow.

Usually, a prominent presidential contender running a primary campaign without serious opposition and with strong in-state support from party leaders can count on winning 90 percent or more of the vote. That's how it went for George Bush when he was running without serious opposition in Republican primaries in 2004, and for Bill Clinton when he was essentially unopposed in the Democratic primaries in 1996.

But Hillary Clinton got nowhere near 90 percent of the vote in Tuesday's Michigan primary.

With most of the ballots counted, the New York senator was winning uninspiring 55 percent of the Democratic primary vote.

A remarkable 40 percent of Michiganders who participated in the primary voted for nobody, marking the "Uncommitted" option on their ballots. Another 4 percent backed Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich, who brought his anti-war, anti-corporate campaign to Michigan and made some inroads among Muslim voters in the Detroit area and liberals in Washtenaw County -- where he was taking almost 10 percent.

But "Uncommitted" was Clinton's most serious challenger in Michigan.

"Uncommitted" was actually beating Clinton in some counties and holding her below 50 percent in others, including Detroit's Wayne County.

Ominously for the Clinton camp, the former First Lady was losing the African-American vote -- in Wayne County and statewide -- to "Uncommitted." African-American leaders such as Detroit Congressman John Conyers, who backs Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, had urged an "Uncommitted" vote. And the message seemed to connect. Exits polls showed "Uncommitted" winning by a 70-26 margin among African-Americans. (Had Michigan voters been allowed to choose between all the serious contenders for the Democratic nod, CNN's exit poll found, Obama would have won the African-American vote by a 73-22 margin over Clinton.) .....(the rest is at: http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?bid=1&pid=271003 )

Hillary is my last Dem choice. I just wanted to put another kink in the *Hillary's high negatives* meme.

I get sick of hearing people explain who we should vote for based on how the pukes think, or who the pukes hate, or who can win.

They all can win. We all should vote based on our personal principles, and screw anybody who tries to influence that decision with electability shit.

because their votes wouldn't count.