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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:03 PM
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9 Students Suspended For YouTube Videos (made fun of teachers and students)
9 Students Suspended For YouTube Videos


GREEN, Ohio -- Nine teenagers near Akron have been suspended from their high school for making videos that ridicule school staff and students. The videos were posted online.

The students from Green High School were suspended for 10 days after school officials discovered the four videos on the Internet site YouTube last Thursday. The videos have since been removed from the site.

Principal Gary Geis says the videos poke fun at teachers and classmates. The students' identities weren't released.

http://www.nbc4i.com/midwest/cmh/news.apx.-content-articles-CMH-2008-01-16-0007.html

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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:08 PM
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1. When I was in High School...
A bunch of students were suspended for putting ridiculing flyers in lockers.

Same shit, different media.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:09 PM
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4. I think putting them up in school is different than doing it on YouTube.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:08 PM
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2. The Constitution does not apply to students, doncha know?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:08 PM
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3. So, you can get suspended from school, now, for things not done on campus.
:eyes:
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:10 PM
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5. Not enough info here...
If the videos were innocent parodies of the teachers and kids, then yeah, I think someone's skin is a little bit too thin.

But we don't know that. The videos could very well have been degrading, humiliating, and even obscene, in which case I would side with the teachers.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:26 PM
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6. Either Way, It Wasn't Done On School Time Or With School Property, So The Suspensions Are Crap.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:29 PM
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7. Exactly.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:29 PM
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10. Then the teachers, as citizens, can take the younger citizens to court. It is NOT THE SCHOOL'S
BUSINESS!!

And I'll bet some lawyer is about to let TPTB find this out, tout suite.

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:40 PM
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8. If not done on school grounds, suspension is wrong. IF done school grounds/time
then the history has to be looked at. If it was a repeating thing, told to not post ridiculing videos while in video class, then perhaps. But posting things NOT at school? Suspension is way too much and wrong.
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RadiationTherapy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:46 PM
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9. Fucking wimps. These are "role models"?? Thin skinned nannies?? n/t
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:38 PM
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11. Mindless Administrators
Here is what I wrote on my blog- www.Earthside.com - about this incident:

Obviously there are school districts around the country that already have way too much taxpayer money if they have time to engage in the kind of anti-American activities described in the news report.

Important to note: the kids videos were not made in the school, on school time or with school equipment. If threats were made, it would be a police matter -- apparently that was not the case, so the administrators are behaving like petty tyrants. If what was in the videos was slanderous, there are civil courts to utilize.

What was in the videos may have been in poor taste, rude, or perhaps even cuttingly humorous. But in the old United States where the Bill of Rights still had meaning and was respected, the right to express oneself through speech and/or actions was a critical ingredient of freedom.

School administrators like those in this incident really have completely forgotten that their job is to facilitate education, not intrude themselves in other people's words or behavior, especially off campus.

Yet another example of life in Bush's America.


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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:59 PM
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13. seems to me like another crusade based on limited information
Free speech? I am not gonna defend the right of a bunch of Heathers to make fun of other people, nor of a bunch of thugs to ridicule what may be dedicated professionals. The way I see it, they engaged in personal attacks and the authorities defended their victims. I'm not shedding any tears for the poor bullies.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:01 PM
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14. You're not?
I will. The kids have a perfectly legitimate right to make fun of anybody they want to. That's pretty much the whole point of the first amendment.

The fact that the administrators are a bunch of assholes just goes to show that they deserved mocking.

The real bullies here are the administrators.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:42 PM
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15. they have that right as a citizen, not as a student
their targets also have a right to self defense, which apparently worked.

It's not clear to me who the a$$holes are until I know the details of the attacks.
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Reader Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:48 PM
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12. Could have been a form of cyber-bullying.
In which case the school does have some sort of responsibility, particularly if the video was shot during the school day. Whatever the case, there's not much on which to form an opinion.
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