For my Redneck Bros - Allman Brothers/Jessica

I know you guys have been beaten up pretty hard lately on the DU boards.

Why? Don't know, don't really care, cause there's no good reason.

So here's some loving, from your bro from down South... WAY south...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfM6nRVBvGs

Like Mexico way...

Mexican alright, but I still love the Allman Brothers.

but it's the bros, that got beat up bad.

You ladies, well, you're just a bunch of pretty magnolias and water lillies, and we can't help but love you anyways!

:hug:

says they were one of the best bands to work for, and believe me this guy has been touring for 30 years, he knows what he's talking about.

Here's my favorite......WHIPPING POST!!! Live at the Fillmore....

Part One:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD2xtn1mjWo



Part Two:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da1DpH6UjeI



Memories, memories.

I'm listening as I post.

Thanks!

He didn't even know I could sing until we were all sitting around out back last summer, not quite three sheets and this song started playing.

I'd forgotten I could sing.

God, I miss a cold beer (I'm pregnant now).

Can't wait until this summer, after the baby's born, sipping a few on the back deck on a hot Tennessee evening and singing that tune again for hubby and friends.

Ahhhhh....

too, but Whipping Post is a bit overrated, imho. It's way too long. It's also a song Frank Zappa like to use to tease rock fans. I think "One way out", "Midnight Rider" and "Love is everywhere" are far better.

listening to it now. the voice.......

I saw them once with the Ramsey Lewis Trio as the opening act!

loves it. Everyone gets out on the floor.
Great song.

Nice performance.

Elizabeth Reed, from 1970, it says:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0tAgAhbzRs&mode=related&search=

Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Memory_of_Elizabeth_Reed

''The album version is actually two parts of the same song on both nights of the concert. Tom Dowd edited those two versions together because, in his opinion, it was the best of the set. The second part can be seen here. Some parts of the keyboard solo are the same as the one on the album and the drum duet is exactly the same. In actuality, four guitars were used. Different guitars were used on different takes.

.........


In this performance, Betts opens the song with ethereal volume swells on his guitar, giving the impression of violins. Slowly the evocative, lilting first theme begins to emerge, and Duane Allman's guitar joins Betts in a dual lead. The next section has the tempo pick up to a Santana-like, quasi-Latin beat, with a strong second-theme melody being driven by unison playing.


....... At Fillmore East (1971), which contains what some fans believe is the finest version of "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed".

Betts now takes a solo, featuring his usual metallic-toned guitar playing. This leads into a thoughtful organ solo from Gregg Allman, with the two guitars churning rhythm figures in the background.

Now it is Duane Allman's turn, and he starts out quietly rephrasing the first theme in his more wood-toned guitar style. He then gradually builds to a high-pitched climax, with Berry Oakley's bass guitar playing a powerful counterpoint lead underneath him against the band's trademark percussive backing. Allman cools off into a reverie, then starts up again, finding an even more furious peak. It was this long, masterful solo that drew comparisons of Duane to jazz immortal John Coltrane.''

couldn't agree more with this guy's opinion

wonder if there's any video Layla with Duane and that other guy....

and not just because one doesn't have to endure Greg the rat jacket-wearing snitch grunting on top of it.
It really is a beautiful song.

Allman Brothers Band - 'Blue Sky'
The Allman Brothers Band live In Germany 1991
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1jpQu6qR1E

The porn star who led the awful life then shot herself after an nasty car accident?

What a great guy, what a hero.

Not.

EDIT: She was 16 not 14. A 16 year old groupie.

that ever had sex with underage groupies, particularly back in the 60s and 70s...

:eyes:

So what's your point? Mine is that he is a documented exploitive asshole with a tragic porn star in the making. As to my collection there isn't too much from the 60's or 70's. I'm more of a 80's and 90's guy myself. Although I do like Bruce. Not Ted Nugent though, another pedophilic asswipe.

Better yet Mark Foley? http://www.tmz.com/2006/10/11/sometimes-i-feel-like-a-nut-sometimes-an-allman/

eyes rolling right back at ya.

(the Cher thing always gave me pause) but you can separate someone's music from their abysmal personal life. My point stands: If you're going to eviscerate every single artist who EVER had sex with anyone under 18 from your music collection, start with Jerry Lee Lewis and work your way up. I'd strongly suspect Prince is out, Led Zeppelin for sure. Maybe some of your more eunuchoid 90s alt-rockers have lived a totally clean life, but -really- you never know. Shit, look at Jacko.

Beyond that, I don't really know what the age of consent is or was back in Gregg's home town during the time he was magically transmogrifying the innocent, virginal Savannah into a suicidal porn star, but if it's got your undies in such a knot, why don't you call the D.A. down there and see if the statute of limitations has expired.

So yeah, you're right- he's obviously a shithead, whose entire existence is defined by the fact that he supposedly once lived with an underage eventual porn star. Such an unmitigated bastard, that when he recently showed up to be honored by the Georgia Music Hall of Fame, I don't know why Mike Mills, Peter Buck and Bill Berry got on stage with the guy; instead, they should have grabbed him by his hippie hair and assaulted him as the exploitative phallic ambassador of the white male guitar playing patriarchy that he clearly is, as they beat him silly with hardcover copies of the collected works of Dworkin and MacKinnon.

I searched for Greg Allman and underage and 16 year old and nothing popped up.

http://www.poeforward.com/mrperfumery/deadgirls/historical/porno/savannah/savannah.htm

Like I mentioned this stuff happens all the time...I guess it's just the way this happened and the way it ended that's always bothered me.

Her life was tragic.

Still looks like a bad mofo even tho he is long in the tooth.

Got a link? Any substantive evidence or documentation? Just how did he exploit Savannah? Did he put her in porn? Make her do it? Gimme a break.

The Allman Brothers put out some very fine music in their time and I appreciated it and this thread. It was a time of sex, drugs and rock and roll. Yeah Greg was in some way involved with Savannah. I've never seen any evidence he was responsible for either her career choice or her death. All I know is he sang his heart out on "Whipping Post" and that's good enough for me.

You can appreciate someone's talent as a novelist, a poet, a musician or an actor without thinking they're a particularly good person. Some of my favourite artists have been HORRIBLE people; Ezra Pound (one of the greatest poets of the 20th century) was a fascist, and so was Louis-Ferdinand Celine (brilliant French existentialist author who tends to make Camus look cheerful); William S. Burroughs spent years in Morocco living on kif and opiates whilst fucking underaged rent-boys; Philip Larkin (English poet) was a misogynistic right-winger--and I can name dozens of others. And you know what? I don't care. It's the work that matters, not the man.

appears to be one of the biggest assholes that ever lived.

doesn't change my opinion of him as a writer, just as a human being

Scooter Herring in a drug trial. Herring received a hefty sentence. Allman was a major junkie at the time and quite a hypocrite. Allman turned on Herring in order to save his own neck. Seems as if Allman really violated that whole "brother man" code, doesn't it?
The fallout of Almann's actions? Dickey Betts left the band in the early 80s disgusted by Allman's cravenness.

Melissa, and so many more. Started listening to them back in the days of Hour Glass.

n/t

I don't care what anyone says. The AB made some solid fucking music.

Lotta good music out of Georgia, of course. When Gregg Allman was recently inducted into the Georgia Music Hall of Fame, Mike Mills, Peter Buck and Bill Berry (of R.E.M.) backed him on "Midnight Rider".

Too cool. :hippie:

:) They were one of my top five favorites, back in the day!
I still listen to their cd's!

struggle mightily to break the stranglehold and mindset dictated by the Allman Bros and southern rock in their early days (late 70s) in GA.
I guess Berry, Buck, and Mills are gracious victors :)

the Allman Brothers "self-indulgent" guitar god mold being something he deliberately defined himself as the diametric opposite of.

Nevertheless, I don't know if it's a case of one style of music "winning" and the other "losing". There's plenty of room for all diff. kinds of music, imho. Biggest band to come out of Athens since R.E.M. has gotta be Widespread Panic, another -gasp!- Jam Band. (A jam band that tears up covers of old Talking Heads songs, too) I'm probably biased, I think R.E.M. and the Dead are two of the best American Rock and Roll bands of all time. And the Allmans aren't bad, either.

I've heard the "Midnight Rider" with Berry, Buck and Mills, too- it's probably still floating around bittorrentable on the web. Sounds GREAT. :headbang: :hippie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0tAgAhbzRs&mode=related&search=

Man I loves me some Allman Brothers too.

I saw Dicky Betts a couple of years ago in NJ and he played for four hours. It was just wonderful.

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got any windowpane?

Thanks, I love the Brothers!

Still one of my favorite songs.

of Whipping Post....

man....I'm putting that on now. A voice never fit a song better than his when he sings about his woman with one of his good time buddies, drinking in some cross town bar.

Eat a Peach is one of my all time favorites