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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:58 PM
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"JUST LIKE SUGAR" is all natural and Diabetes can drink
this!!! I posted this just in case someone like to other alternative to sugar and chemical sweeteners.

Just like sugar is a wonderful all natural alternative for those health consious people, who choose calorie restricted diet, with pure sweet flavor that tastes Just Like Sugar without any harm from some artificial sweeteners. Just like sugar is a great natural option for people suffering from Diabetes and maybe useful in restricted diet programs where standard sugar are not allowed. More...
http://www.justlikesugarinc.com/

You can read all about "Information Sheet" PDF file,
"Analysis" PDF file
"Material safety data sheet" PDF file

I been using this for 4 months and I really like! It tastes just like sugar and leaves no after tastes!!!

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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:04 PM
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1. Thank you for that information.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:08 PM
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2. Better than Splenda?? eom
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:09 PM
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3. YES!
Read the ingredient... It's all natural and they sell it at Whole food store and Co-op!
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Pretty_in_CodePink Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:38 AM
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28. Almost anything is better Splenda
Splenda is an organochlorine and the only one approved for human consumption. Organochlorines are mainly used as pesticides including DDT. Other chlorinated compounds include Agent Orange and PCBs.

I'm interested in learning more about this other sweetener. I've just finished a book about this - "Sweet Deception: How Nutrasweet, Spenda and the FDA are Hazardous to Your Health" by Joseph Mercola MD. My husband completed stopped using all artificial sweeteners after reading just a few pages. I followed him. I now use stevia (I can get used to the aftertaste) and sugar in very small amounts. I recommend this book for anyone looking for well referenced information re: artificial sweeteners and also the FDA.

Better just be prepared to give up your diet soda. It'll be hard to drink after reading the book. I've replaced the soda with herbal tea and am enjoying that. Love my new electric kettle!
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:57 AM
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29. Allergic to coffee and tea!
Will keep drinking my Sprite Zero and ignoring all warnings. It is my one enjoyable drink I can have besides limited amount of fruit juice. I'm dying anyway, so why worry about a little Splenda. :shrug:

Of course, this is just my case. If you are just diabetic and planning on living a long productive life, do what ever it takes. :thumbsup:
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Pretty_in_CodePink Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 09:28 PM
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41. Don't blame you. We can't give up EVERYTHING!
Sometimes it's too much to do everything that's "supposed" to be good for us. I should eat more fruits and veggies! Some people think that nothing is truely unhealthy to eat but the thinking we associate with the food/drink. So enjoy your Sprite Zero. Cheers!
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:10 PM
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4. How is it in coffee?
I get a horrific aftertaste from other sugar substitute so I'm wary.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:13 PM
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6. That's where I use it the most, in the morning coffee.
It tastes great in the coffee! I hate after tastes from Steve and I don't like to use organic regular sugar because of calories. I swear, when I first use it, I thought I was using the real sugar!
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:22 PM
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10. Well none of the ingredients scared me
So I ordered some from a different site that also sells Goji berries, which I bought a bag of. Once I finished submitting the order it said wait two weeks for processing. :wtf: Anyway, I'll tell you in two weeks whether I liked it. ;-)
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:23 PM
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11. LOL... TWO WEEKS???
Wow!!! Please do let me know!!! I really like it very much!
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:10 PM
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5. It would be nice if it were affordable
I do a lot of baking, especially around the holidays. At 19.00 a pound, I could never afford to switch over to it.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:15 PM
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8. Yes, it is little expensive.
Good thing, I don't use lot of sugar. Since it's fairly new out on the market, maybe in time, price will go down.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:15 PM
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7. Is it like Splenda in that they replaced some of the
Edited on Thu Feb-22-07 11:17 PM by DemBones DemBones
hydroxyl groups in a sucrose molecule with something else?

In Splenda, they use chlorine ions to replace hydroxyls, which is unappetizing though not necessarily harmful -- tabel salt is sodium chloride, a combination of sodium and chlorine ions.

I know I could read the PDFs, just don't want to download three PDFs right now! :-)

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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:22 PM
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9. This is nothing like Splenda...
Edited on Thu Feb-22-07 11:29 PM by Rainscents
It has only 4 ingredients. Orange, Crystalline chicory maltodextrin pure extract and Chicory root fiber.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:33 AM
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18. The chicory will probably rule it out for me, alas. nt
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BlueStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:07 AM
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12. What about stevia? n/t
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:08 AM
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13. Like that one, too.
n/t
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:09 AM
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14. Stevia has a terrible bitter aftertaste, at least to me it does.
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 12:10 AM by Lex
I like Splenda okay.


BTW, those women in your sig line rock.


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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:14 AM
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15. I tried Steivia and I did not like after tastes either.
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BlueStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:56 PM
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32. I've had it in my teas and I think they are a bit sweet..
So a little'll do I guess!!! And those women in that sig is me.

Blue
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:18 AM
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16. I tried stevia and I didn't like the after tastes.
It reminded me of drinking diet drinks.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:58 AM
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27. I tried Stevia and it turned into rocks n/t
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:20 AM
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17. I use stevia regularly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevia

The FDA has blocked this in the past, violating its own rules to do so. They wanted companies to make artificial chemicals like Aspartame and Splenda (which is actually chlorinated sugar).
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:33 AM
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23. Wow, thanks for the link... I did not know about FDA and Stevia.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:31 AM
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35. Keep in mind that the people who sell Stevie and the ones brainwashed
by health food stores who think that just because it's natural, it's good for you; are probably the ones who posted that info.

Check out this site for some balance: http://www.cspinet.org/nah/4_00/stevia.html
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:08 AM
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33. Stevia is not allowed in hardly any countries
Canada doesn’t allow food companies to add stevia to their products. Nor does the European Union.

Last year, the scientific panel that reviews the safety of food ingredients for the EU concluded that stevioside is “not acceptable” as a sweetener because of unresolved concerns about its toxicity. In 1998, a United Nations expert panel came to essentially the same conclusion.


Snip>>

Here’s what troubles toxicologists:

Reproductive problems. Stevioside “seems to affect the male reproductive organ system,” European scientists concluded last year. When male rats were fed high doses of stevioside for 22 months, sperm production was reduced, the weight of seminal vesicles (which produce seminal fluid) declined, and there was an increase in cell proliferation in their testicles, which could cause infertility or other problems.1 And when female hamsters were fed large amounts of a derivative of stevioside called steviol, they had fewer and smaller offspring.2 Would small amounts of stevia also cause reproductive problems? No one knows.

Cancer. In the laboratory, steviol can be converted into a mutagenic compound, which may promote cancer by causing mutations in the cells’ genetic material (DNA). “We don’t know if the conversion of stevioside to steviol to a mutagen happens in humans,” says Huxtable. “It’s probably a minor issue, but it clearly needs to be resolved.”

Energy metabolism. Very large amounts of stevioside can interfere with the absorption of carbohydrates in animals and disrupt the conversion of food into energy within cells. “This may be of particular concern for children,” says Huxtable.




http://www.cspinet.org/nah/4_00/stevia.html


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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:43 AM
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25. I find stevia un-thirst quenching (say if you make kool-aid with it)
Plus it's hard to get the balance right, so it tastes bitter if you put too much, and un-sweet if you don't put enuff
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:34 AM
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19. I never heard of this.
Thanks so much Rainscents! Here's a :hug: for ya!
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:24 AM
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22. Thanks Nutmegger!
So good to see tea, friend! :hug: back at ya too! I'll have few things to say, I'll PM in next day or two. Take care, my friend!
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:09 AM
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20. "Just Like Sugar" is a chemical sweetener
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 01:10 AM by foo_bar
I posted this just in case someone like to other alternative to sugar and chemical sweeteners.

Thanks to an FDA loophole, companies can label any "serving" with fewer than 5 calories, "0 calories". In this case, the primary ingredient (by weight at least) is maltodextrin, which is a glucose polymer that breaks down into glucose. Given the half-gram serving size, corn syrup could also be labeled "zero calories":



Maltodextrin contains approximately 25 percent digestible sugars, as compared to sucrose, or table sugar, which consists of 100 percent sugars. Maltodextrin, like other carbohydrates, provides 4 kcal/g.

http://www.metamucil.com/faqs/index.shtml#faq11

Fructose provides 4 kcal/g, as does sucrose. However, it is 1.6 times as sweet as sucrose and could be used to reduce calories by 35% to 40%, while still providing the same sweetness level.

http://www.foodproductdesign.com/articles/465/465_0497DE.html


It's probably better for diabetics, being a semi-digestible starch and not a monosaccharide, but even the manufacturer of maltodextrin doesn't say "Diabetes (sic) can drink":

Diabetics should follow the advice of their physicians. MALTRIN® maltodextrin’s glycemic index should be considered metabolically equivalent to glucose (dextrose).

http://www.grainprocessing.com/food/malinfo.html

Nor is it an apples to apples comparison with the "0 calories" in Splenda (which contains maltodextrin in smaller quantities), or the zero cal "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter":

The "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter" spray has ZERO calories if you use just a few spritzes. However, if you do what most of us do and spray to your heart's content, you can rack up calories and fat grams pretty quickly. Here's the scoop: 12.5 sprays is 10 calories and 1 gram of fat, 25 sprays (1 teaspoon) is 20 calories and 2 grams of fat, and 37.5 sprays is 30 calories and 3 grams of fat. In case you're curious, the entire bottle contains 900 calories and 90 grams of fat!

http://www.hungry-girl.com/askhg/askhgdetails.php?isid=92

I Can't Believe It's Not Butter Spray is a good example of how this can be misleading — even though the label boasts "zero" calories and fat, that's just for a few sprays. If you were to use 25 sprays, it's actually 20 calories and about 2 grams of fat — and while this is still low, it's not "zero."

Take a look at another popular product — Pam Cooking Spray (one of my longtime favorites). Although Pam has less than 0.5 grams of fat per serving, technically qualifying it for the "fat free" claim, the FDA thought such an assertion on a product that is essentially 100 percent fat (that's right — it's full of fat) would be misleading. The compromise was to allow Pam (and these types of products) to put the words "for fat-free cooking" on the label.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2003/Mar/26/il/il05a.html
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:21 AM
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21. It's not process like chemical sweetener...
Any food can be made into chemicals, it's all how it's process. I'd listen to Dr's (independent lab) who did test on this product and he said, it is chemical free!
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:42 AM
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24. does maltodextrin exist in plants?
Processes such as hydrolysis or enzymolysis where the raw material is
fundamentally altered to the extent that these processes manipulate the molecules of one
substance to create another would preclude a “natural” claim. For example, with common
starch-based sweeteners, the final products are absent in the host plants from which they
are manufactured. The original chemical state of the starch-based sweeteners has been
altered so significantly during processing that allowance of a “natural” claim is
exceedingly misleading, and contradicts USDA and CFIA standards.

Other examples of processes that fundamentally alter the raw ingredient follow:

(...)

Starch-based break down processes that manufacturer products used as bulking
agents and texturizers, such as maltodextrin and modified food starch

http://www.cspinet.org/new/pdf/sugar_fda_petition.pdf

Granted it's the sugar lobby, but they're correct about the FDA permitting "natural" claims on products that are the result of chemical synthesis. Say:

The suspension of starch was prepared with 75 g of starch to 175 mL of distilled water (corresponding to 30% starch suspension w/w). 0.222 g chloride calcium was added (80 ppm). pH was adjusted to 6.5 with sodium hydroxide 0.1 N. 40 µL of a-amylase thermamyl 120 L (equivalent to 0.6 Kg of enzyme by ton of starch) was added. Suspensions were submitted to water bath at 100 ºC under stirring.

At each 15 minutes, one fraction was removed from the water bath completing 120 minutes of hydrolysis. Corn and cassava starches were submitted to this treatment in five repetitions at each step of the treatment. Each starch, corn and cassava yielded 40 maltodextrins.

Enzyme inactivation was obtained by addition of hydrochloridric acid 0.1 N, up to pH 4.0. The final volume of analysis was adjusted to 250 mL in volumetric flask with distilled water, homogenised, transferred to a centrifuge flask and centrifuged at 4 ºC, 8000 rpm by 20 minutes, according to Griffin & Brooks16. The liquid containing maltodextrin was frozen in a plate freezer and stored until the time of analysis.

http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S0100-40422005000400008&script=sci_arttext
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 01:03 AM
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38. Nothing on this planet is chemical free.
Jesus, do you people ever read what you write?
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:46 AM
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26. I use agave nectar as a sweetener. Very low glycemic index, so
pretty cool stuff. Plus you can make an awesome margarita using it!
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:14 AM
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30. Interesting
I've never heard of that. I use either Splenda or Steevia (sp?) when I need sugar in coffee or tea or other things. I, fortunately, am not diabetic, so for baking I use regular sugar. Because baking works scientifically, sugar substitutes don't work as well as regular sugar. I'd check this product out, though, and see if it works.

:)

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kittykitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:11 PM
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31. Check out Whey Low.
http://www.wheylow.com/

* 100% Natural
* Tastes Exactly like Sugar...Guaranteed!
* 75% fewer Calories than sugar
* 70-80% lower Glycemic Index than sugar
* Only 1 Effective Carb per Serving
* Easy to Use! Whey Low® is a One-for-One substitute for sugar in ALL food applications. Whey Low® is perfect for baking. Cakes and cookies cannot tell the difference, and neither will you.
* So whether you are a Low-Calorie, Smart-Carb, or Low-Carb Dieter, a Type 1 or Type 2 Diabetic, or simply Health-Conscious, Whey Low® is the choice for you. So what's taking you so long? Your taste buds are waiting.


And it tastes good!

VivaLac® Inc., a family-owned Maryland corporation, is a rapidly-growing technology company with innovative, all-natural, and healthful products derived completely or in part from dairy raw materials such as milk, whey proteins, whey, or milk fermentation compounds.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:09 AM
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34. Hmmmm, Sounds Interesting. Is It Like Splenda Or Totally Different?
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:48 AM
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36. Why don't we just stick to sugar in MODERATION
just a modest proposal...
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 01:11 AM
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39. What if some of us want sweet stuff and NOT in moderation?
I LIKE ICE CREAM and I want to eat gallons of it and not get fat! Am I going to get scolded now? :shrug:
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 01:29 AM
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40. Not from me... as far as weight goes, sugar isn't the culprit anyway
because it's the simplest to use as fuel, your body will typically burn sugars and carbos...

it's when combined with fats that the trouble starts... Eat fat alone and your body tends to burn it. Combine with sugar, your body burns the sugar and stores the fat.


People who have health difficulties processing sugar, of course, are another category entirely...
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 01:02 AM
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37. Well, it's made out of CHEMICALS!!!
:scared:
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